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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:25 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Curious about the grocery store and restaurant....

Curious about the grocery store and restaurant. Definitely not okay where I live!

I'm expecting the pressure to build on pet vaccines though as major drug companies expand into the pet vaccine...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:18 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 42
Posted By Deborah
Large number of kids out of school in Long Island

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/12/16/115-students-kept-out-of-one-long-island-school-amid-flu-outbreak/



however
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:14 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 414
Posted By Deborah
I just thought it was sadly ironic that vaxing...

I just thought it was sadly ironic that vaxing sick kittens is a no-no, but vaxing sick babies is okay as long as they are just a little bit sick.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:14 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 414
Posted By Deborah
Interesting contrast on the vax when sick...

Interesting contrast on the vax when sick thought. http://www.vetinfo.com/shouldnt-vaccinate-sick-kitten.html
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:12 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 414
Posted By Deborah
Both. I saw a study in the last few months...

Both. I saw a study in the last few months warning doctors that delaying vaccines due to "minor" illness sometimes meant that babies or children would be significantly behind on their vaccines for a...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   Yesterday, 06:53 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 128
Posted By Deborah
Okay, much clearer now! Look into something...

Okay, much clearer now!

Look into something called original antigenic sin. Hilary Butler has a good article or two on the topic on her web-site, Beyond Conformity.

The problem is, once a...
Forum: Vaccinations   12-18-2014, 08:57 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 414
Posted By Deborah
But there is huge pressure on doctors to push...

But there is huge pressure on doctors to push vaccines at adult patients and I suspect that doctors who don't cooperate will be penalized in some way.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   12-18-2014, 08:36 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 39
Posted By Deborah
I think there is a huge desire on the part of...

I think there is a huge desire on the part of human beings to do SOMETHING in an emergency. This is the moral equivalent of piling up sandbags when a hurricane is coming. You know that it probably...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   12-18-2014, 08:08 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 128
Posted By Deborah
First, has this child ever had a pertussis...

First, has this child ever had a pertussis vaccination? That would change the result of actually getting pertussis in terms of immunity.

Second, if the cough has been going on more than three...
Forum: Vaccinations   12-18-2014, 08:00 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 74
Posted By Deborah
Gotta learn to appreciate a depraved oligarchy....

Gotta learn to appreciate a depraved oligarchy. If it makes the 1% richer it is good.
Forum: Vaccinations   12-17-2014, 11:48 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 414
Posted By Deborah
I'm particularly concerned about the push to...

I'm particularly concerned about the push to vaccinate children when they are ill. Not because there is a desperate need for that individual child to get vaccinated at that moment, but because of the...
Forum: Vaccinations   12-17-2014, 11:46 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 414
Posted By Deborah
So, Teacozy, you are saying that it is better if...

So, Teacozy, you are saying that it is better if a child walks out of the office with zero vaccines and no access to medical care than some of the vaccines and a continued relationship with a...
Forum: Vaccinations   12-17-2014, 11:26 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 414
Posted By Deborah
Clearly, removing the philosophical exemption...

Clearly, removing the philosophical exemption puts barriers in the way of receiving vaccines.

They will need to change the standard of care to permit doctors to deny vaccines to families that...
Forum: Vaccinations   12-15-2014, 08:10 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 414
Posted By Deborah
This is the same reason that I think the...

This is the same reason that I think the pro-vaccine should be very supportive of the philosophical exemption for vaccination and school attendance.

For parents who care concerned about...
Forum: Vaccinations   12-12-2014, 08:45 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 110
Posted By Deborah
When did reporting pediatric deaths become a...

When did reporting pediatric deaths become a requirement?
Forum: Vaccinations   12-11-2014, 06:08 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 110
Posted By Deborah
In any discussion of flu deaths, I think we need...

In any discussion of flu deaths, I think we need to factor in this:

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2008/05/05/mrsa-and-child-flu-deaths/

here is some more background which explains what...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   12-09-2014, 02:59 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 105
Posted By Deborah
The rotavirus vaccine cannot be given past 6...

The rotavirus vaccine cannot be given past 6 months. So delaying isn't an option.

The good news is that this vaccine cannot be required for school, or for daycare if a child is over 6 months.
Forum: Vaccinations   12-09-2014, 01:12 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 41
Posted By Deborah
Data on Vaccine Reactions

Some of the vaccine debate could be settled fairly quickly if doctors were required to enter all reports of vaccine reactions into the same online databases they use to record doses of vaccines...
Forum: Vaccinations   12-08-2014, 02:11 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 111
Posted By Deborah
On the vaccines are only 2% of pharma meme, that...

On the vaccines are only 2% of pharma meme, that is a distortion. For the companies that do make vaccines they are a very significant part of their business and a growing part of their business.
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Forum: Vaccinations   12-08-2014, 10:38 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 111
Posted By Deborah
Okay. So we have a long-running program of...

Okay.

So we have a long-running program of lies and distortions about Wakefield, what he did, what he said and what the consequences were.

And then the same people jump up and down saying:...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   12-07-2014, 07:42 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 459
Posted By Deborah
In Illinois, CPS actually lobbied and succeeded...

In Illinois, CPS actually lobbied and succeeded in having the law changed so that not vaxing was no longer grounds to open an investigation. I don't know the current status of the law in IL.

That...
Forum: Vaccinations   12-05-2014, 11:09 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 171
Posted By Deborah
SIDS-thought this article might make an interesting discussion

http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/sudden-infant-death-syndrome-sids-major-causes-are-known-but-ignored/

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Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   12-03-2014, 06:22 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 61
Posted By Deborah
My theory is that elderly Italians have been...

My theory is that elderly Italians have been dying following the flu vaccine for years. This is the first year someone paid attention. The person who paid attention will lose their job.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   12-03-2014, 06:21 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 579
Posted By Deborah
Because it is sort of a debate thread, but not...

Because it is sort of a debate thread, but not one where the discussion can be free. Or something like that.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   12-03-2014, 01:41 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 579
Posted By Deborah
Makes sense, I've been uncomfortable with the way...

Makes sense, I've been uncomfortable with the way the thread has unfolded.
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