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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:29 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I may have to go back and edit my words..... ...

I may have to go back and edit my words.....

Ok. This is what I found. If anyone is feel like analysing a study, this might be a good one to have a go at:
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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:48 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Turquesa and Thekoz both pointed out that the meh...

Turquesa and Thekoz both pointed out that the meh seemed inappropriate and harsh (as did you for that matter, in the first line of this post) and mama-27 clarified what she meant. I have now read...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 05:48 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
None. Lol. Points for working the words into a...

None. Lol. Points for working the words into a comment, though :thumb

ETA: the photo was not out of context. On a basic level, there has been, almost since the beginning of this thread, an...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:30 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
This comes across to me as "manufactured outrage"...

This comes across to me as "manufactured outrage" (perhaps for a particular audience).

People post pictures of children suffering all.the.time on these forums - and on both "sides." Whether or...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:40 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Even when she recovers completely she might never...

Even when she recovers completely she might never need a second MMR or varicella. Get titres done.

MMR and gut issues come to mind for me. I am not a doctor, though.

I am sorry she is in...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:12 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
There have consistently been case of SSPE in...

There have consistently been case of SSPE in people who claim to have never had measles who were vaccinated. Yes, some of these people turn out (upon testing) to show antibodies to wild measles -...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:20 AM
Replies: 116
Views: 3,435
Posted By kathymuggle
Nighowlwithowlet......perhaps you can explain...

Nighowlwithowlet......perhaps you can explain what is so very cold about saying "children die" ?


No one here has dismissed the child's death (which is more than I can say whenever a person...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-28-2015, 08:49 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Oh, you are your reasonableness:grin:

Oh, you are your reasonableness:grin:
Forum: Vaccinations   06-28-2015, 08:30 PM
Replies: 116
Views: 3,435
Posted By kathymuggle
It is the truth. Did you read the stats...

It is the truth.

Did you read the stats Serenbat posted concerning 2000 children a day dying of diarrhea? What about the 2 who died in Mexico recently from bacteria found in the vaccine or on...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-28-2015, 07:21 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
We haven't.

We haven't.
Forum: Vaccinations   06-28-2015, 09:11 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
The truth is sometimes. Children die, often...

The truth is sometimes.

Children die, often needlessly, all the time. We rarely hear about it, beyond local news coverage. That this has garnered international media attention is very much about...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-28-2015, 09:06 AM
Replies: 116
Views: 3,435
Posted By kathymuggle
This is probably true. Still, I do not...

This is probably true.

Still, I do not critisize the parents for not vaccinating their child for diphtheria. When you have a baby/child you have to weigh the wisdom of vaccination/not...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-28-2015, 08:36 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 261
Posted By kathymuggle
"How have the meek not inherited the earth, when...

"How have the meek not inherited the earth, when it comes to vaccine induced injury?"

-Most vaccine injuries are not noted as vaccine injuries or reported to anyone.
-Those who do report what...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-27-2015, 12:20 PM
Replies: 116
Views: 3,435
Posted By kathymuggle
That is a tourist blurb about Olot. It means...

That is a tourist blurb about Olot. It means nothing in terms of whether there is pervasive overcrowding or poverty.

Diphtheria can hit anybody - although it is *more likely* when there is...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-27-2015, 07:51 AM
Replies: 121
Views: 3,619
Posted By kathymuggle
I do not disagree with Orac. I think a child...

I do not disagree with Orac. I think a child with an ear infection should be watched closely and that antibiotics are sometimes in order.


How do you think doctors refusing to see unvaxxed...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-27-2015, 06:41 AM
Replies: 121
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Posted By kathymuggle
The child did not die of homeopathy. She...

The child did not die of homeopathy.

She died from an ear infection that morphed into meningitis. I suspect it is extremely rare that an ear infection morphs into meningitis (whether you treat it...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-27-2015, 05:34 AM
Replies: 121
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Posted By kathymuggle
They are disparaging those who believe in...

They are disparaging those who believe in creation. It is disparaging a religious belief system - and while you might be ok with that, I am not. FTR, I am not religious....I just call them like I...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-26-2015, 07:23 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 1,983
Posted By kathymuggle
I think it is a class and race issue as well. ...

I think it is a class and race issue as well.

For better or worse, CPS is more likely to be involved in the lives of certain demographics than others. The number of natives in Canada who are...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-23-2015, 05:31 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 662
Posted By kathymuggle
Please do report back. The whole thing is so...

Please do report back.

The whole thing is so condescending and infuriating.

Nothing else requires parents to attend a "class" before a decision is made.

Can you imagine:

-Required class...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-22-2015, 11:14 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,162
Posted By kathymuggle
Wake up to what?

Wake up to what?
Forum: Vaccinations   06-22-2015, 09:08 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,162
Posted By kathymuggle
You made me LOL. My vote is to list all...

You made me LOL.


My vote is to list all ingredients and their quantities.
I would be clear on if it was per disease or per shot with combined vaccines.
Forum: Vaccinations   06-20-2015, 06:23 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 704
Posted By kathymuggle
It doesn't spread disease, but it could spread...

It doesn't spread disease, but it could spread harm.

1. It roll models adults being pretty careless. I am not sure this is a great point or not - but I am listing it for brainstorming sake.
...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-20-2015, 05:15 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 704
Posted By kathymuggle
anecdotes, motorcycles and vaccines

So...my eldest yesterday noted that in New Hampshire, one does not have to wear a helmet. Apparently it goes against their Live free or Die slogan.

A quick Google search showed him to be...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-18-2015, 04:14 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 3,299
Posted By kathymuggle
I do think playing 20 questions with a parent is...

I do think playing 20 questions with a parent is calling into judgement their competence to judge what happened. I do not see any way around it.

I 100% believe that most parents are better...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-18-2015, 03:18 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 3,299
Posted By kathymuggle
Well, there is another option. They could be...

Well, there is another option. They could be right :grin:

That being said, if you, a stranger decide their story is false, it either means you have decided they are lying or are incapable of...
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