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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:33 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
It did. Thanks. The comment was really brief...

It did. Thanks. The comment was really brief and it was not clear if he was speaking of the unvaxxed or the immune compromised, but for the sake of argument, I will assume he meant the latter.
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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 11:25 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 443
Posted By kathymuggle
I spent 10 minutes scrolling through the comments...

I spent 10 minutes scrolling through the comments and found no such thing. I did not read all the comments, though. Can you quote the ones that talk of thinning the herd? Thx.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   Yesterday, 11:03 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 615
Posted By kathymuggle
:yeah Saved me some keystrokes. Incidence...

:yeah Saved me some keystrokes. Incidence rate plays a roll in all of this. I would hazard that even if the child with cancer gets "something" at school that either harms or kills him, it will...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:14 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 57
Posted By kathymuggle
a change from measles - pertussis!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22156850

Substantial decline has occurred in pertussis incidence across all age groups including infants, reaching a 20-year nadir in 2010 in both provinces. For...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:55 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 992
Posted By kathymuggle
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19324753 ...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19324753

For infectious diseases where immunization can offer lifelong protection, a variety of simple models can be used to explain the utility of vaccination...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-29-2015, 06:29 AM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/Pages/NR15-008.aspx ...

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/Pages/NR15-008.aspx

"The California measles patients reside in 11 local health jurisdictions (Alameda, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Mateo,...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-28-2015, 06:56 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
Oh, pffttt. I do not cling to it or bring it up...

Oh, pffttt. I do not cling to it or bring it up with any sort of regularity - but when I do, it is because someone is being a complete sanctimommy. While I realise this is a measles discussion, I...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-27-2015, 08:10 PM
Replies: 58
Views: 1,035
Posted By kathymuggle
Where would you slide the Jenny-hate in? It is...

Where would you slide the Jenny-hate in? It is fine to dislike Jenny and the views she holds, but the equating of non-vax and "bimbo" is definitely sexism.
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 04:11 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
Hmmm….I felt you skated quite close to moral...

Hmmm….I felt you skated quite close to moral judgement on the discussion on free-loaders/free-riders. It is pretty much a euphanism for selfish. I also felt the comment on how non-vaxxers dismiss...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 02:10 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
If this is the case, you should report him.

If this is the case, you should report him.
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 01:37 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
I personally did not jump all over you (and I...

I personally did not jump all over you (and I know you were not addressing me)…but I thought about it. >:D

There is a trend at sites like V4V to post stories of people who were non-vax and then...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 09:40 AM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
Kathy

Kathy
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 07:39 AM
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Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
Several days ago people were going back and forth...

Several days ago people were going back and forth about how many died in Philly of measles and where they died. The whole thing was a little dizzying :dizzy
Here is what I have come up with:
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Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 06:06 AM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
Nonsense. Whether he was hand picked or fell...

Nonsense. Whether he was hand picked or fell into it or something in between is fairly moot: he is a spokesperson and has been for a long time. He should own that and act professionally. I do not...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-25-2015, 04:05 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
MMR's possible link to autism is one of reason...

MMR's possible link to autism is one of reason people do not give MMR or delay MMR. As such I think it is quite relevent on a thread on measles. I do think it might be better or a new thread...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-25-2015, 06:35 AM
Replies: 84
Views: 855
Posted By kathymuggle
becky…I do not think all conspiracy theorists are...

becky…I do not think all conspiracy theorists are deranged. At all. I don't think you are deranged.

I think the pro-vaxxers who scream "conspiracy theory" every time they can believe...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 09:18 PM
Replies: 84
Views: 855
Posted By kathymuggle
I know you asked this of becky, and maybe I...

I know you asked this of becky, and maybe I should just let this thread die…but I will briefly answer.

Vaccine decisions are made by those concerned with public health. I am primarily concerned...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 07:42 PM
Replies: 84
Views: 855
Posted By kathymuggle
Are we arguing about conspiracy theories agian? ...

Are we arguing about conspiracy theories agian? It is wearying.

Here is the bottom line:

There are lots of non-vaxxers. Most are NOT conspiracy theorists - although some are. Big whoop. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 07:25 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
Well, then…. There is a vaccine for measles....

Well, then….

There is a vaccine for measles. It is relatively effective. There are people who can not be vaccinated or choose not to - it really does not matter which or why. Viruses do not...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 01:16 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
When I first read that post, I thought you were...

When I first read that post, I thought you were bang on- even though you undoubtably meant to be snarky.

Oh, and I do not think he is the King of Evil Doctors (was that the quote?) but I do not...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 01:10 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
kathy

kathy
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 12:52 PM
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Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
he benefits with: 1. Money!!! 2. if...

he benefits with:

1. Money!!!

2. if not money for himself, then his cronies.

3. And, more important that money, it indulges his paternalist god complex. Not only is he so certain he is...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 12:41 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
Right, I probably should not post, but have 15...

Right, I probably should not post, but have 15 minutes to spare and a coffee to drink….

I do not care if Offitt saw 5-7 people die of mealses in his hospital. The number, *to me*, is not worth...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 06:55 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 226
Posted By kathymuggle
OTOH, bacteria wants to surivie and if a large...

OTOH, bacteria wants to surivie and if a large percentage of a population is vaccinted, bacteria will change in order to survive…i.e serotype replacement. Pneumococcal vaccine is offered up as an...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-23-2015, 12:32 PM
Replies: 519
Views: 7,496
Posted By kathymuggle
My defintion of health includes more than...

My defintion of health includes more than temporal, acute illness. I do not think a child with the measles is automatically unhealthy. They are just temporarily sick.
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