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Forum: Life with a Toddler   04-06-2008, 05:23 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 1,927
Posted By pannacotta
thanks for all the replies. it confirms my...

thanks for all the replies. it confirms my instinct that it feels too long for a month. i don't want them to come here. they came after DS was born and i did NOT want them here. they are OK but not...
Forum: Life with a Toddler   04-06-2008, 05:10 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 5,673
Posted By pannacotta
our is too. but perfectly healthy. i think he's...

our is too. but perfectly healthy. i think he's 3 percentile for weight, 10 for height, 70 for head circumference.

i'm 5'5, dh is about 5'7. DH is asian, i'm white.

pede says not to worry as...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-06-2008, 12:03 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
interesting, i don't remember this one but will...

interesting, i don't remember this one but will look it up when i get back.. thanks for citing it.
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-06-2008, 12:00 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
sure i have had problems coming to terms with...

sure i have had problems coming to terms with the birth but that has nothing to do with how i'm addressing the issue now. i'm seeing things more clearly having been on both side of the table as it...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 11:48 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
where i live both videos and photos are allowed...

where i live both videos and photos are allowed at births, except in the OR - and even that is negotiable for photos (with no flash)

i'm sure it isn't the same everywhere.
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 11:46 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
i'm afraid the facts do NOT say that homebirth...

i'm afraid the facts do NOT say that homebirth is safer because (as i explained in an earlier post) such a study is impossible to do.

you would have to take a group of low risk pregnant women and...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 11:07 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
i'll try to address your point arwyn as best i...

i'll try to address your point arwyn as best i can.

some women die because of hospital mistakes. agreed. but if you educate yourselves you can catch many of those before they happen. of course...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 10:38 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
Out of interest.. has anyone raised the threat...

Out of interest.. has anyone raised the threat of suing while a nurse/doc was doing something they asked not to be done?

As in 'i'll cut an episiotomy now'

No you do not have my permission. I...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 10:22 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
Hospital proponents, in general, believe that if...

Hospital proponents, in general, believe that if we just do enough, interfere enough, sacrifice our babies' health and our mental wellbeing, our breastfeeding relationships, our power and autonomy,...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 04:25 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
but wouldn't you say that every mother who dies...

but wouldn't you say that every mother who dies at home (or as a result of having been at home when this happened) of hemorrhage or AFE or every baby who dies of abrupted placenta (can't do a c...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 04:14 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
i'm glad it turned out ok and you did have a...

i'm glad it turned out ok and you did have a supportive place. maybe the change in place caused the stall, (and so it might not have happened if you'd been there form the start) maybe it would have...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 04:04 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
again, you can *manage* what is done to you in a...

again, you can *manage* what is done to you in a hospital. you can say no to anything, you can literally have no one touch you from the minute you get in. you have to consent to anything - though...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 04:00 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
yes those happen - i'm actually looking into...

yes those happen - i'm actually looking into this now, how often it happens, in what circumstances and so on and for sure there are some bad sadistic docs out there like in any job. and there are...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 03:27 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
thanks to everyone for replying btw. i knew...

thanks to everyone for replying btw. i knew there's be a range of views when i wrote and i don't feel attacked - it's not about me after all, but about what we're talking about. so keep 'em coming.....
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 03:16 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
yes. basically any scarring in the uterus can...

yes. basically any scarring in the uterus can (in some women) logically cause problems later on. i believe studies on accreta do show a link among the risk factors. if i were an ob i'd look very...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 05:41 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
ok let me ask something i've been thinking...

ok let me ask something i've been thinking about..

if such a place - totally homebirth like place - existed *within* a hospital (same floor as regular L&D), staffed by midwives, with tubs,...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 05:36 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
i love your 'i love this thread i think i'm...

i love your 'i love this thread i think i'm going to live here..' tag line.. made me laugh..

i find all the responses interesting too but the whole topic is scary too.. i kind of posted...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 05:31 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
ok very last reply b4 bed.. (: i had afe...

ok very last reply b4 bed.. (:

i had afe (mild afe) - acute hypotension (b/p 50/30 i think, acute hypoxia (face was turning blue, felt couldn't breathe, suffocating), some coagulopathy which...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 05:16 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
there is no guarantee; even at the hospita ...

there is no guarantee; even at the hospita

agreed and i do say that in the OP. but my point is you have a better chance (not risk free. no birth is risk free, crossing the road is not risk free!)...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 05:02 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
This is exactly what I was thinking as I read...

This is exactly what I was thinking as I read the story. This is a story that supports homebirth. OP, you felt something was wrong and you transferred. In fact, your body gave you good clues that...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 04:51 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
yeah, i agree not all accretas result in as...

yeah, i agree not all accretas result in as quick and massive blood loss as mine. some placentas just sit there and won't detach and you have lots of time to get to the hosp and a good midwife knows...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 04:45 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
thanks for the encouragement. part of the reason...

thanks for the encouragement. part of the reason i haven't written about this is i know i'll get attacked - i'm going against the grain here but i really feel it is important to say and i'm not a...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 04:33 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
yes for thousands of years women had babies at...

yes for thousands of years women had babies at home (we're all descended from women who birthed successfully or we wouldn't be here.. (: )

and it was accepted as inevitable that women died in...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 03:49 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
i just wanted to correct one thing you say....

i just wanted to correct one thing you say. accreta is *not* diagnosable before delivery in most cases. you may ask your doctor about this. MRI can detect some very obvious cases.

in the case of...
Forum: Birth and Beyond   04-05-2008, 03:18 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 12,190
Posted By pannacotta
i realize what i'm about to say is against the...

i realize what i'm about to say is against the mdc prevailing thought .. and i have great respect for mdc and learned more here than anywhere else, been supported more here than anywhere else. i've...
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