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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:45 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Wow. I have to say I am impressed with this...

Wow.

I have to say I am impressed with this mothers persistence. She had to jump through a lot of hoops to get titers drawn -it seemed like a major PITA.

Assuming appropriate exemptions...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:34 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Lol. I will get it tomorrow.

Lol. I will get it tomorrow.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 01:53 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Part 3 of 8: Consequences What Are the...

Part 3 of 8: Consequences
What Are the Consequences of Chorioamnionitis for Me and My Baby?

Chorioamnionitis can lead to serious complications in both mother and baby and is usually considered...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 01:49 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I read the study - there was a 19% higher risk of...

I read the study - there was a 19% higher risk of chorioamnionitis. 6.1 in vaxxed with tdap during pregnancy to 5.5% in unvaxxed with tdap during pregnancy

I am surprised you bolded the second...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 01:02 PM
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Views: 1,920
Posted By kathymuggle
I think both studies offered some evidence that...

I think both studies offered some evidence that pregnant women did not seem to be at extra risk of common pregnancy and birth related complications by accepting the vaccination. An exception is...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:22 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I am going to suggest you confront the bolded...

I am going to suggest you confront the bolded assumption at some point. It seems like you believe and are calling vaccine critics conspiracy theorists. Why do you think this? You don't have to...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:10 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Fwiw, unless you see the vaccine reaction...

Fwiw, unless you see the vaccine reaction yourself, there might be pushback to signing that exemption. Most vaccine reactions that parents report, as far as I can tell, are dismissed as coincidence....
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:23 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I think the cases or rubella going from 500-6000...

I think the cases or rubella going from 500-6000 per year, with peaks and valley to zero the year after the second MMR shot was added looks very fishy.

First off, one MMR is supposed to do it, in...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:00 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Any vaccine advocate want to comment on post 93? ...

Any vaccine advocate want to comment on post 93?

Do you agree with Deboarah on what the real consensus is? If not - why not? Use firm examples.

I do think we might have put the cart before...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:54 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Deborah - re post 93: "The scientific...

Deborah - re post 93:

"The scientific consensus on vaccines comes down to something like this. We know that antibodies play a role in helping the body fight illness. We know that some vaccines...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:43 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I would like to bring this up again.

I would like to bring this up again.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2015, 03:58 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Even if you are right, one exception does not...

Even if you are right, one exception does not mean much.

In the last few pages, we have the following examples that I remember of consensus shifting:

lead
ulcers
mmr needing a second booster...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2015, 03:24 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Do you have stock in pharmaceuticals? This is a...

Do you have stock in pharmaceuticals? This is a sincere question. Your continual attacks on anything CAM is ridiculous. Now, you could claim my continual attacks on vaccines are ridiculous,...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2015, 12:46 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 177
Posted By kathymuggle
does anyone question this graph? I do!

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/vpd-mev/rubella-eng.php

Incident rate of rubella

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/vpd-mev/images/rubella-rubeole-eng.jpg
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2015, 09:34 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,920
Posted By kathymuggle
Just in case you missed it, this thread has some...

Just in case you missed it, this thread has some decent discussion in the last few pages on scientific consensus as well:
...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2015, 08:42 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 389
Posted By kathymuggle
There are definitely interesting parallels. ...

There are definitely interesting parallels.

Here is quote from the article in the OP. It was a review of studies (which is good - basing a conclusion on one study would not have had much...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2015, 07:56 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 389
Posted By kathymuggle
That is interesting. It seems the French...

That is interesting.

It seems the French treat neurological issues like psychological issues. This may work, somewhat with ADHD (in addition to the fact that French parents are quite...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2015, 05:18 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,920
Posted By kathymuggle
:Hug Sorry for your loss.

:Hug

Sorry for your loss.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2015, 02:49 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 554
Posted By kathymuggle
Alas, no. ...

Alas, no.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/vac-admin/contraindications-misconceptions.htm

"Conditions Commonly Misperceived as Contraindications to Vaccination

...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2015, 02:39 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 280
Posted By kathymuggle
What I see at first glance is that ID has gone...

What I see at first glance is that ID has gone down by about 20-25%, while autism has gone up by 40%. Clearly diagnostic substitution is not the only thing at play. Otherwise, what Linda said.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2015, 02:25 PM
Replies: 130
Views: 2,497
Posted By kathymuggle
I think this fits in here or on the scientific...

I think this fits in here or on the scientific consensus thread:nerd:

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/23456/title/H--pylori-researchers-win-Nobel/

Speaking on the...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2015, 02:20 PM
Replies: 130
Views: 2,497
Posted By kathymuggle
Let's consider ulcers. For years, doctors did...

Let's consider ulcers. For years, doctors did think ulcers were caused by stress or eating badly. This changed in the 1980's with the discovery of H Pylori being a causative agent for ulcer in...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2015, 12:40 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,920
Posted By kathymuggle
I am not saying some haven't been replicated. I...

I am not saying some haven't been replicated. I am saying replication might not be happening at the level you posted, and I posted a link to back up my point - which is, nicely, more than you have...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2015, 11:56 AM
Replies: 130
Views: 2,497
Posted By kathymuggle
I disagree. Scientific consensus does equal...

I disagree. Scientific consensus does equal prevailing wisdom at the time.

You could say the scientific consensus is built on so much research (which I would then argue has significant issues,...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2015, 06:46 AM
Replies: 130
Views: 2,497
Posted By kathymuggle
It isn't. It is a good thing. Here is the...

It isn't. It is a good thing.

Here is the issue:

Person A: I follow scientific consensus!
Person B: go ahead if you like, but I am quite aware the scientific consensus is wrong sometimes,...
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