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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:28 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I played around with terms such as American,...

I played around with terms such as American, distrust, vaccines, autism etc Google. Most hits on the first page did show a decent proportion of American did have issues (safety, efficacy) with...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:33 AM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
I read it - and I did skip the intro. It...

I read it - and I did skip the intro.

It seems kind of desperate:

"There are lots of ways to mess up hypothesis testing, but one of the most common is performing multiple tests. Every time you...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 10:42 AM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
This is a long thread, and I cannot remember if...

This is a long thread, and I cannot remember if it has been covered or not (it might deserve its own thread) but Thompson is also concerned about thimerosal in flu vaccines given to pregnant women. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:49 AM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
Read the Times piece. This part jumped out...

Read the Times piece.

This part jumped out at me:

" Skepticism is healthy, and the sign of curious minds, but not when it flies in the face of evidence. Especially gold standard, rigorous...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:35 AM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
"The good thing about science is that it's true...

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” ~ Neil deGrasse Tyson

The truth is the truth whether you believe it to be true or not. It exists outside you, I...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   08-28-2014, 01:42 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 199
Posted By kathymuggle
Well, for starters, don't talk to your father...

Well, for starters, don't talk to your father about it ;) I know the conversation came about organically, but it does not seem like he knows what he is talking about. This is not a dig at him - if...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-28-2014, 06:44 AM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
Gack! My EYES!!!! The article was ok. I...

Gack! My EYES!!!!

The article was ok. I did not love it, and it certainly did not make enough of the possible 3.4 fold increased autism risk in African American boys, or the CDCs role in...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   08-28-2014, 06:16 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
This might sound like blasphemy…but you do not...

This might sound like blasphemy…but you do not have to make a big deal of most cuts.

People get cuts all the time, and the vast, vast majority of the time nothing comes of it. I would just watch...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-28-2014, 05:58 AM
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Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
[B] I agree. This is what we need to focus...

[B]

I agree. This is what we need to focus on….

Bolding and quoting to help it be seen.

If the quote concerns you, I think you (we) need to figure out ways we can safely spread this around...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-27-2014, 06:21 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC412861...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4128611/

The Hooker re-analysis is still up on pub-med. To quote Gianelloni "Click that... link fast before PubMed takes it down too."
Forum: Vaccinations   08-27-2014, 05:53 PM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
I agree. I have trouble caring that...

I agree. I have trouble caring that Hooker/Wakefield outted him. It is information that needs to be outted.

I also do not completely buy that Thompson *thought* the conversations were in...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-27-2014, 05:47 PM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
You seem to be taking this as some sort of "win"...

You seem to be taking this as some sort of "win" for the pro-vax side, and it isn't.

The allegation was that the CDC hid or obscured data to downplay the fact the study showed that African...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-27-2014, 11:24 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 220
Posted By kathymuggle
I agree. It goes well beyond the quote,...

I agree.

It goes well beyond the quote, though.

I always laugh a little when someone says they only want want to look at articles in peer reviewed journals. Oh, I know why they say it (and...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-26-2014, 12:35 PM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
What anti-vax spin, tea? This is my...

What anti-vax spin, tea?

This is my assessment of the letter, I did not read it on some other site, and I do not identify as anti-vax.

I will repost the intro to the letter, bolding mine.
...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-26-2014, 10:40 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,092
Posted By kathymuggle
I was wondering why she had to vaccinate. IIRC,...

I was wondering why she had to vaccinate. IIRC, she is Canadian - and Canada is an easy place to be non-vax.

MM - can you delay?

Are you in BC?

I found this on the BC site
...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-26-2014, 10:19 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,092
Posted By kathymuggle
Aw, Sorry mama. I was out of town. I was AFK...

Aw, Sorry mama. I was out of town. I was AFK for a few days, but do admit that when I came back I went straight to the whistle-blower debate. I kind of like debate, which I am not going to...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-26-2014, 10:03 AM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
This study did not look at the overall rate of...

This study did not look at the overall rate of autism in the community in different demogrpahics. It just looked at the rate of autism given when a person had MMR.

"The author embarked on the...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-26-2014, 09:41 AM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
The letter opens with this: "We’ve not met...

The letter opens with this:

"We’ve not met yet to discuss these matters, but I’m sure you’re aware of the Institute of Medicine Meeting regarding vaccines and autism that will take place on...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-26-2014, 09:13 AM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
I read the SBM article from start to finnish on...

I read the SBM article from start to finnish on Gorski's take on the CDC whistle-blower incident. I wanted to know what the "other side" had to say….and my analysis? Not much.

He spends a lot of...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 07:04 PM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
Meh. It is not about Hooker's take on the...

Meh.

It is not about Hooker's take on the study. It is about a possible whistle-blower and whether or not the CDC acted appropriately after the original study. If a study shows a significant...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 07:00 PM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
As an aside, rates in Latinos also need to be...

As an aside, rates in Latinos also need to be looked at.

I was doing a bit of a google search for ASD rates among African Americans, and while I did not find anything shocking in absolute rates...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 06:46 PM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
Why? Look, if you believe measles is deadly...

Why?

Look, if you believe measles is deadly and it is better to have autism than the measles (and some people absolutely do believe this) then, yeah, you *might* be OK with under-playing...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 06:25 PM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
FYI: The CDC says that about 14% of...

FYI:

The CDC says that about 14% of Americans are African American. Looking just at the USA, that is 7% of the population who is at higher risk for autism from early MMR assuming this is true.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 06:22 PM
Replies: 365
Views: 10,803
Posted By kathymuggle
So? I think it is very possible the CDC...

So?

I think it is very possible the CDC would have (assuming it went down like this - I feel we are still in wait mode) covered up a issue in any demographic. White male. Latino females. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-23-2014, 08:18 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 619
Posted By kathymuggle
Thanks for the clarification, and I agree. ...

Thanks for the clarification, and I agree.


Anecdote alert:


Once upon a time I felt a school one of my children was attending had bullying issues. I brought it to the teacher and...
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