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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 04:48 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Ah. Sounds like you are quite frustrated by the...

Ah. Sounds like you are quite frustrated by the fact that people do manage to talk critically about vaccines. In a few settings.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 04:44 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Moving into a cave today, thanks for letting me...

Moving into a cave today, thanks for letting me know.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 04:42 AM
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Views: 393
Posted By Deborah
Are all mercury compounds "safe" like table salt,...

Are all mercury compounds "safe" like table salt, or only thimerosal?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:14 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Time for a discussion of vaccine reactions-- ...

Time for a discussion of vaccine reactions--
http://www.babycenter.com/404_how-can-i-tell-if-my-child-is-having-a-bad-reaction-to-a-vac_11477.bc

Note that there is no explanation that this...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:57 PM
Replies: 4
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Posted By Deborah
And here is another one. Different vaccine, same...

And here is another one. Different vaccine, same argument. http://www.dailytitan.com/2014/04/autism-is-not-a-symptom-of-vaccination/
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:54 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 222
Posted By Deborah
Here is another one, different vaccine, same...

Here is another one, different vaccine, same theme. http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/05/03/here-is-how-we-know-gardasil-has-not-killed-100-people/

See what I mean about patterns and...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:50 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 222
Posted By Deborah
Here is a good example, not from an official...

Here is a good example, not from an official source, but fairly well argued. He also quotes quite a lot of the available science on the topic. There is a serious problem with the argument and I'm...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:44 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 222
Posted By Deborah
Lightbulb Vaccine defenses one after another

On another thread we were discussing why people decide to reject vaccines after a reaction, whereas people don't reject, for example, automobiles after they are in an accident.

I said that I...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:39 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,082
Posted By Deborah
Let me make sure that I understand your argument,...

Let me make sure that I understand your argument, tadamsmar (http://www.mothering.com/forum/members/243139-tadamsmar.html). Criticism of vaccines is dangerous and might result in lower vaccination...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:58 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 1,303
Posted By Deborah
I woke up this morning with the realization that...

I woke up this morning with the realization that we are misunderstanding the question in the OP.

The question is, why, after a fairly "minor" vaccine reaction (fever, febrile seizure, changes in...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-27-2014, 07:39 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 1,303
Posted By Deborah
This mother's story is the perfect answer to the...

This mother's story is the perfect answer to the OP question as to why people TURN against vaccines. http://www.livingwhole.org/dear-doctor-a-letter-to-my-childs-first-pediatrician/
Forum: Vaccinations   07-27-2014, 05:05 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 1,303
Posted By Deborah
Serenbat wrote: This is my experience too....

Serenbat wrote:
This is my experience too. Falling short (on purpose) from the CDC recommended schedule puts you into the anti-vaccine camp, no matter how strongly you believe in vaccines or how...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-27-2014, 04:42 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,082
Posted By Deborah
Okay. For the health of democracy, I personally...

Okay. For the health of democracy, I personally feel that it is better that some "nonsense" gets air time. The risk of suppressing information about a real problem because one side is making noise...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2014, 09:26 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 1,875
Posted By Deborah
Bumping up to accompany current thread on...

Bumping up to accompany current thread on censorship
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2014, 07:32 PM
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Views: 1,303
Posted By Deborah
I think part of the reason people turn against...

I think part of the reason people turn against vaccines and quit vaxing after a reaction is because of the way doctors respond, i.e., treating it as something not serious, something normal, something...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2014, 06:43 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,082
Posted By Deborah
I think the process has become more sophisticated...

I think the process has become more sophisticated over the last 100 years or so. All sorts of clever strategies to hide data, blacken the names of "troublemakers", delay discovery of wrong-doing,...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2014, 06:06 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,082
Posted By Deborah
And we definitely shouldn't overlook the GMO...

And we definitely shouldn't overlook the GMO battles :)
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2014, 06:05 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,082
Posted By Deborah
That works both ways, though. Properly managed,...

That works both ways, though. Properly managed, it would mean that the pro-vaccine couldn't remain in their comfortable cocoon of denial of vaccine injury. But of course it wouldn't be properly...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2014, 09:08 AM
Replies: 153
Views: 4,682
Posted By Deborah
No, I don't think the additional doses are just...

No, I don't think the additional doses are just to make a profit. I think they are an attempt to cover up the failure of the first claims made for the vaccine. Lifelong immunity and all that. They...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-26-2014, 09:05 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 1,303
Posted By Deborah
There is a choice movement in the US, arguing...

There is a choice movement in the US, arguing against stringent vaccine exemption laws. But that movement is definitely not anti-vaccine as many of the people who want choice do vaccinate and plan to...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2014, 08:27 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,082
Posted By Deborah
It is all a matter of framing. Shutting people up...

It is all a matter of framing. Shutting people up by corporate control of media is a form of censorship and we all know censorship is bad, so let's just call it something else--like "avoiding false...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2014, 07:11 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 252
Posted By Deborah
I'd suggest looking for an article written by...

I'd suggest looking for an article written by Suzanne Humphries on the Vitamin C treatment for pertussis. Chances are your baby won't get pertussis, most don't and if caught, chances are it won't be...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2014, 07:08 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 1,303
Posted By Deborah
Many good points. I think vaccine critics...

Many good points.

I think vaccine critics are made and that they are mostly made by the vaccine enthusiasts.

Denial of vaccine reactions is a big player. If vaccine reactions were...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2014, 06:56 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,082
Posted By Deborah
Let's play a little imagination game. Let us...

Let's play a little imagination game.

Let us suppose that a large corporation which produces...well...cars...has come out with a car that has a defect which is killing people. The car catches fire...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-25-2014, 06:53 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,082
Posted By Deborah
Very telling comparison. As in it tells a lot...

Very telling comparison. As in it tells a lot about your opinion of people who criticize vaccinations.
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