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Forum: Vaccinations   08-27-2015, 06:10 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I don't think the pertussis vaccine sheds. I...

I don't think the pertussis vaccine sheds. I don't think it prevents transmission - but that isn't the same thing as shedding and causing cases.

Op - have you ever had pertussis? In adults a...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-26-2015, 05:59 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 596
Posted By kathymuggle
Getting SA can be tricky, although you might be...

Getting SA can be tricky, although you might be able to get some online. Three health food stores I went to did not have it. I would locate where to get it, and how long it will take to get it...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-26-2015, 08:43 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 276
Posted By kathymuggle
I wrote a long response, only for the server to...

I wrote a long response, only for the server to be down! Grrr......

We have no idea what our immunization rates are and if they are rising or falling, although people may have "ballpark" ideas. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-21-2015, 05:47 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
This article does a good job of explaining why...

This article does a good job of explaining why the current shingles vaccine is a lousy solution to the rise in shingles. Ouch.
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Forum: Vaccinations   08-21-2015, 05:31 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
Your original point was that people can have a...

Your original point was that people can have a chicken pox booster every ten year to prevent shingles.

You are mistaken.

In Canada, people get two doses of the varicella vaccine, typically as...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-21-2015, 12:56 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
I am not sure where you are from in Canada, but I...

I am not sure where you are from in Canada, but I have never heard anyone refer to the shingles vaccine as "chicken pox booster."

The shingles vaccine is given once (generally), not every 10...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-17-2015, 06:25 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 352
Posted By kathymuggle
I took a look at this one. I have started with...

I took a look at this one. I have started with "does it work?" a crucial question, as if the evidence for it working is slim, then there is no need to look at safety.
The evidence the CDC uses...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-16-2015, 07:10 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
For starters, I do not think vaccines and car...

For starters, I do not think vaccines and car seats are an apt comparison.

That being said, the most interesting thing about your above statement is that I have never heard the argument that one...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-13-2015, 11:31 AM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
We are repeatedly told that even if we do not...

We are repeatedly told that even if we do not wish to vaccinate for our children, we should do it for others. We are straight up told we are selfish, and failing to abide by the "social contract" by...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-13-2015, 10:44 AM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
The hypocrisy is wild. Skeptical raptor says it...

The hypocrisy is wild. Skeptical raptor says it is morally repugnant to use children as a vehicle to benefit adults, but in many other blogs argues we should use children as a vehicle (through...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-12-2015, 06:14 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
All provinces have universal health care. What...

All provinces have universal health care. What is covered in each province differs slightly, although access to western medicine is a free in all provinces. Some provinces cover midwifery care...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-12-2015, 11:15 AM
Replies: 119
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Posted By kathymuggle
In so far as scientists speak in one voice, and...

In so far as scientists speak in one voice, and dissent is not really allowed, then appeal to scientific consensus is the same as an appeal to authority.

I don't actually think all fallacies are...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-12-2015, 07:10 AM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
Very true. I only brought it up in the first...

Very true.

I only brought it up in the first place (that the vaccine was not available when my older kids were young) because I expected Tea to come back with - "you could have vaccinated your...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-11-2015, 04:35 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
According to the link you posted upthread,...

According to the link you posted upthread, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21220354 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21220354)
the risk of getting shingles twice, with an average follow-up...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-11-2015, 03:49 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
The problem with this study is the average follow...

The problem with this study is the average follow up time was 7.3 years, with a maximum time of 12 years. It really isn't long enough to say shingles is unlikely to re-occur, especially when...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-11-2015, 03:41 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
DS was born in 1996, DD in 1998. The...

DS was born in 1996, DD in 1998.


The first province to offer universal coverage of chicken pox vaccine was PEI, in 2000.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2094900/

They had...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-11-2015, 02:49 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,246
Posted By kathymuggle
[QUOTE=teacozy;18979337] Did you check...

[QUOTE=teacozy;18979337]

Did you check that link out I posted about Canada? It was pretty interesting and touched on your question. They point out that a lot of the young adults in recent...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-11-2015, 02:37 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,903
Posted By kathymuggle
Yes and no. As the mother of children who...

Yes and no.


As the mother of children who have had chicken pox, I selfishly wish there was chicken pox circulating so their chance of getting shingles (which is far worse than chicken pox) was...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-11-2015, 11:11 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,246
Posted By kathymuggle
I am not arguing adults did not get the mumps...

I am not arguing adults did not get the mumps pre-vaccine era. I am certain a rather small percentage did , similar to chicken pox.

I am asking you why you think the current vaccine and its...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-11-2015, 10:23 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,246
Posted By kathymuggle
https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?as_ylo=2011&q=wa...

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?as_ylo=2011&q=waning+immunity+mumps&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&as_vis=1

"Results. The antibody avidity indexes were high for measles and rubella but low for mumps. Twenty ...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-11-2015, 10:14 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,246
Posted By kathymuggle
The data from WWI is from 100 years ago. ...

The data from WWI is from 100 years ago. Literally. Data from the 1950's or 60's would have been better for pre-vaccine era data. IIRC, one of the reasons the CDC floated for highish mumps...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-11-2015, 09:36 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,246
Posted By kathymuggle
I am not sure this is true. I suspect most...

I am not sure this is true. I suspect most college students, for example, were not recently given MMR. The probably had MMR when they were supposed to- which varies by location, but is typically 2...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-10-2015, 06:19 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,246
Posted By kathymuggle
I knew someone was going to say the bolded. ...

I knew someone was going to say the bolded. Mirzam can (easily) defend herself, but I think she was laughing at the idea that people think the mumps portion of MMR is going to offer long term...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-10-2015, 06:07 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,673
Posted By kathymuggle
The claim is that "they do not vaccinate because...

The claim is that "they do not vaccinate because they do not know how scary diseases are!"

Vaccines are spoken of as a monolith. We see this over and over again - and with such phrases as...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-10-2015, 05:47 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,673
Posted By kathymuggle
I am not sure this is true. The problem with the...

I am not sure this is true. The problem with the pertussis vaccine isn't just low efficacy (and if you believe vaccines are very close to 100% safe, the argument of any protection is better than...
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