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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:24 PM
Replies: 26
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Posted By Deborah
There was a vaccine for scarlet fever. There is...

There was a vaccine for scarlet fever. There is very little info available about the vaccine, but it seems to have been both ineffective and very dangerous.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:29 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 453
Posted By Deborah
There we go again, crazy anti-vaxers with the...

There we go again, crazy anti-vaxers with the conspiracy theories...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 07:35 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 660
Posted By Deborah
The book came as a shock when I read it to review...

The book came as a shock when I read it to review it for the library I run. I expected it to be very heavy and serious. It is extremely funny, entertaining and serious. Quite a trick.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 07:05 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 660
Posted By Deborah
Thanks again for your thoughtful responses.

Thanks again for your thoughtful responses.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 06:40 PM
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Views: 660
Posted By Deborah
All very good points. I'll go with this one....

All very good points.

I'll go with this one.

In the US, during the 1800s, a huge movement of people occurred from rural areas into cities. The death rate from infectious diseases shot way up....
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 03:23 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 660
Posted By Deborah
I want to return to the earlier discussion...

I want to return to the earlier discussion looking at whether a narrow focus actually ends up delivering the desired outcome.

The bit I meant to mention but skipped, is that we don't have...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 02:48 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 350
Posted By Deborah
Perhaps a pharma rep? It does seem likely...

Perhaps a pharma rep?

It does seem likely that whoever it is did receive at least one dose of the vaccine, though.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 02:08 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 453
Posted By Deborah
nm!

nm!
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 12:47 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 660
Posted By Deborah
I can see your reasoning, but there are huge...

I can see your reasoning, but there are huge problems.

1) Narrow focus. As I pointed out, this can make something look like a remarkable success, when the real world outcome is very bad. A...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 12:37 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 346
Posted By Deborah
Not only parents are ignorant about the vaccine...

Not only parents are ignorant about the vaccine injury compensation program!
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 12:36 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 453
Posted By Deborah
Good question. My guess is that they don't want a...

Good question. My guess is that they don't want a comparison group.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 10:15 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 725
Posted By Deborah
"We looked at the numbers really carefully" ...

"We looked at the numbers really carefully"
translation:

the studies were all designed not to spot certain sorts of problems and they worked.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 10:13 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 660
Posted By Deborah
The focus on specific diseases rather than on...

The focus on specific diseases rather than on health works well for some interests.

Consider, for example, the increases in acute flaccid paralysis and the decreases in polio. If the point of the...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 10:07 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 233
Posted By Deborah
The CDC also makes large grants to non-profits so...

The CDC also makes large grants to non-profits so they can push vaccines. Some of the money that comes in to pharma goes out to front groups that pretend to be independent.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 05:44 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 346
Posted By Deborah
One obvious problem with the study is that it was...

One obvious problem with the study is that it was retrospective and based on acceptance or refusal of the vaccine during pregnancy. If some of the women who refused the vaccine did so because of a...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-20-2015, 05:30 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 725
Posted By Deborah
And, of course, the effects on the immensely...

And, of course, the effects on the immensely complex and subtle immune system.

Yes, sure, let's poke the immune system with adjuvants, over and over and over at the earliest possible age. And any...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-19-2015, 05:55 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 304
Posted By Deborah
Here are the parts I'm finding confusing: 1)...

Here are the parts I'm finding confusing:

1) How is "having" Hib defined? Before the vaccine this bacteria was very common. It only occasionally turns into outright illness and when it does it is...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-19-2015, 05:47 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,267
Posted By Deborah
Back in the really good old days when people...

Back in the really good old days when people worked 14 hour days 6 days a week I expect sickness of any sort was a death sentence.

Especially as working people lived literally hand to mouth.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-18-2015, 06:07 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 317
Posted By Deborah
Experts in lying and propaganda? For...

Experts in lying and propaganda?

For example.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-18-2015, 06:05 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,267
Posted By Deborah
On the other hand, they are still using the same...

On the other hand, they are still using the same attenuated mumps strain which has lost much of its efficacy from being passed so many times--according to the Merck whistleblowers.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-18-2015, 05:45 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 725
Posted By Deborah
I find it very weird that it is okay for...

I find it very weird that it is okay for veterinarians to recommend titer testing for animals to prevent health problems due to over-vaccination. But human beings are "immune" to health problems due...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-18-2015, 05:43 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,267
Posted By Deborah
Weirdest bit...even though the vaccine...

Weirdest bit...even though the vaccine manufacturers have no liability...we are supposed to believe that they include all sorts of irrelevant stuff in the package insert for vaccines because of legal...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-18-2015, 05:33 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 303
Posted By Deborah
Consider some of the pro-vaccine arguments: ...

Consider some of the pro-vaccine arguments:

1) People have forgotten how awful the diseases really were.

Reality check--exemptions were included in the vaccine laws in most states by...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-17-2015, 08:03 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 303
Posted By Deborah
Which is why, alas, the attacks on individual...

Which is why, alas, the attacks on individual choice when it comes to medical care. The people who wanted to be able to make their own choices became a large enough group that they began to cutting...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-17-2015, 06:16 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 470
Posted By Deborah
I worked at a school. During the time I was there...

I worked at a school. During the time I was there chickenpox broke out and later there was some whooping cough.

Although the state law was "send the unvaxed home", no one was paying attention so...
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