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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:51 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Well, if you can believe that in 1963 a large...

Well, if you can believe that in 1963 a large enough body of children was vaccinated against measles that it caused the rates to immediately plummet, you are right up there with the Queen in Through...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:04 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 547
Posted By Deborah
No, remember, we are talking about correct...

No, remember, we are talking about correct diagnosis in the first year or two after a vaccine is rolled out. When doctors still know how to diagnose the illness.

I'm asking for evidence that...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:45 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 359
Posted By Deborah
Okay. So a nurse works at a hospital for 10, 15...

Okay. So a nurse works at a hospital for 10, 15 or even 20 years. Has an excellent record, has delivered first-rate care and now the hospital, in order to avoid losing federal money tells him/her...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:33 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 547
Posted By Deborah
Yes, that would all make sense. But it doesn't...

Yes, that would all make sense. But it doesn't seem to work in the real world. One factor is that the rules for diagnosis of an illness are changed when vaccination begins. The best known example of...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:49 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 547
Posted By Deborah
I decided to skim the article and look for a...

I decided to skim the article and look for a "fact" to discuss.

This one actually has two facts of interest. The global market for all pharmaceutical products isn't the relevant number to see...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:35 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 549
Posted By Deborah
Why then, is the flu vaccine pushed beginning in...

Why then, is the flu vaccine pushed beginning in August and still being pushed in April?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:28 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
That is a very good point. The changes in the...

That is a very good point. The changes in the incidence of autism began back in the 1980s, roughly, let's say 1985 just to have a date. Twenty years later there is still no consistent way of...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:48 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
ss834 Thanks for clarifying. Is there no...

ss834

Thanks for clarifying. Is there no correlation because the data is problematic or because there is, in your opinion, no correlation, period? How definite do you mean to be?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:17 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,774
Posted By Deborah
My ankle isn't an infectious disease...with or...

My ankle isn't an infectious disease...with or without the hardware.

But it is curious that patients who ask questions and want to be informed are generally treated with respect. Unless it...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:13 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
This is one of the major organizations involved...

This is one of the major organizations involved in the research. http://ecdc.europa.eu/en/epiet/institutes/Pages/SSI2009.aspx

Even if the researchers had nothing to do with thimerosal being...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 01:12 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,774
Posted By Deborah
I'm actually faced with a medical decision that...

I'm actually faced with a medical decision that I'll have to research.

I've got hardware in both sides of my left ankle. I need to decide whether to get it removed or not.

The PA at the ortho...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 01:09 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
Very interesting discussion and a lot of good...

Very interesting discussion and a lot of good points.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the people doing the study were/are employed by the agency in Denmark that handles vaccines.
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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:53 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 359
Posted By Deborah
The part that puzzles me is that there should be...

The part that puzzles me is that there should be some stats on how many people catch flu IN the hospital. I've never seen any. We do see a lot of stats about other healthcare related illnesses, for...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:34 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
Okay. Some points that need to be...

Okay.

Some points that need to be considered when we look at more studies.

In the US there was a period of several years in which newborns were given the Hep B vaccine which contained...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:06 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
Thanks Jessica. I'd like to put this into...

Thanks Jessica.

I'd like to put this into the context of the arguments about thimerosal and autism that have occurred over the last 15 years or so.

The study was published in a leading...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:33 AM
Replies: 82
Views: 2,252
Posted By Deborah
The birth dose of Hep B in the US is based on a...

The birth dose of Hep B in the US is based on a very large pile of assumptions. Read the section on Hepatitis B http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=486191 The paragraph starts like...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-17-2015, 06:14 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
I'll briefly sum up my own thoughts on the study,...

I'll briefly sum up my own thoughts on the study, then.

I see it as very loose. The factors being looked at are thimerosal levels in the vaccines and the number of cases of autism.

I don't...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   04-17-2015, 05:56 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 668
Posted By Deborah
I spent a few days when I was in library school...

I spent a few days when I was in library school hanging out with a hospital librarian. She highlighted the fact that there are a significant number of patient organizations that have become puppets...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-17-2015, 05:52 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
That is interesting and points to something I...

That is interesting and points to something I find sort of weird. The autism numbers just seem to be impossible to pin down. We even get quite serious claims that autism has always been at roughly...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   04-17-2015, 05:35 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 668
Posted By Deborah
I'm not surprised. I've heard the American...

I'm not surprised. I've heard the American Council on Science and Health called the best industry front group money can buy.
Forum: Vaccinations   04-17-2015, 05:34 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
Yes, we are getting a bit away from the study. ...

Yes, we are getting a bit away from the study.

Just some background on the thimerosal trace amounts business.

Some manufacturers use it during the vaccine manufacturing process as a...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-17-2015, 05:20 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
Under assumption number 2, the study authors...

Under assumption number 2, the study authors would be misrepresenting the actual situation in Denmark, right?
Forum: Vaccinations   04-17-2015, 04:52 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
We do need to focus on the relevant time period,...

We do need to focus on the relevant time period, which means we would need to find the Danish vaccine schedule for the period covered by the study. It did differ from the US schedule for the same...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-17-2015, 02:56 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
Denmark may have different manufacturing...

Denmark may have different manufacturing protocols. They certainly have a very different vaccine schedule, which does mean that the outcome of this study may not apply to the US.
Forum: Vaccinations   04-17-2015, 02:35 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 963
Posted By Deborah
Yes. I've asked in various venues for...

Yes.

I've asked in various venues for science showing a safe level of exposure to either injected, ingested or other forms of exposure to thimerosal for infants and haven't been offered any. There...
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