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Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-20-2011, 05:30 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 216
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
I think it's harmful because as long as he's...

I think it's harmful because as long as he's peeing fine and not having problems, it's setting up a situation where he's going to say your child has phimosis, say...if he's not retractable by 3.  I...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-20-2011, 05:28 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 1,586
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
The point of my post was that most people are...

The point of my post was that most people are pretty uneducated about FGC, and think that all or most of it is ex/inf, the most drastic kind.  Since this has been made such an issue over the last 20...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-20-2011, 05:19 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 5,849
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
If this were the case, why can men get erections...

If this were the case, why can men get erections throughout puberty and most of their adult life?  Further, if this were the case, why do drugs like viagra and cialis (which work on the blood...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-20-2011, 05:17 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 5,849
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
I think one of the biggest reasons I'm a bit of...

I think one of the biggest reasons I'm a bit of an outsider here is because of my distaste for so many studies posted as evidence against circumcision.  This study size is too small to be relevant,...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-20-2011, 05:12 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 905
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
This is really unfortunate.  It sounds like...

This is really unfortunate.  It sounds like she's totally out of her area of expertise, and further, utilizing her position with WIC (who a lot of people look to for advice) to advance a...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-16-2011, 09:38 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 522
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
My point is that retraction is stressed as so...

My point is that retraction is stressed as so harmful that I've seen women on here who are anxious about basically anything touching their child's penis.  I think clarification needs to be made abou...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-12-2011, 11:59 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 1,586
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
But they're not across the board horrified with...

But they're not across the board horrified with all FGC.  They think that excision and infibulation is the most common type.  I remember that blog with the little girl getting circumcised, and there...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-12-2011, 07:08 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 4,953
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
The issue is that the PP was trying to negate...

The issue is that the PP was trying to negate the association.  Whether it's a huge number or not, the association is there.  It's minor, and imo, irrelevant, but it does exist.
 
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Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-12-2011, 06:39 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,058
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
Some men have more foreskin some have less. ...

Some men have more foreskin some have less.  Don't jump on her for calling it 'excess'.  It's not hurting anything.  The foreskin length is not 'for the penis to grow into', some men' penis grows...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-12-2011, 06:06 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 522
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
I thought Brant's post was great, but I'd like...

I thought Brant's post was great, but I'd like to elaborate on this.

While intactivists have been told over and over and over again that any sort of pulling on the foreskin is retraction and will...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-12-2011, 05:51 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 4,953
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
There are so many issues that aren't controlled...

There are so many issues that aren't controlled for that you can't just jump to that conclusion.  Penile cancer is more prevalent in intact men.  It may be rare, but it is more prevalent.  Anyone...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-12-2011, 05:46 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 4,953
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
This is as ridiculous as saying going to a...

This is as ridiculous as saying going to a European doctor means they're all foreskin friendly.  Trust me, it's not true.

Most doctors I've met genuinely believe in the therapeutic value of...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-12-2011, 05:41 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 1,586
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
It depends on the type of FGC versus MGC we're...

It depends on the type of FGC versus MGC we're talking about.  Some type 1 and 2 FGC are much different than RIC.  Penile subincision is more drastic than RIC.  These broad brush strokes don't...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-12-2011, 05:39 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 1,586
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
Most physicians I've met genuinely believe in...

Most physicians I've met genuinely believe in circumcision, that it has therapeutic value.  You can't make generalizations about their motivations, because just like everyone else, each person's...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-12-2011, 05:21 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 922
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
Huh. I honestly did not realize that. ...

Huh.

I honestly did not realize that.  Really sad.
 
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Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-01-2011, 05:52 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 922
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
 I think they assume that the glans hangs out...


I think they assume that the glans hangs out of the foreskin (or when it's erect, the foreskin is all bunched against the base of the glans/corona) so that it would be the 'head' popped out of a...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   12-01-2011, 05:49 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 1,586
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
I suspect it's a mixture of both.  I do believe...

I suspect it's a mixture of both.  I do believe there are a lot of elderly men who are getting poorly cleaned in nursing homes. Women, too.  So they (the men) 'need' circumcision (as opposed to...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   11-26-2011, 07:02 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 275
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
So he's complaining of burning with urination,...

So he's complaining of burning with urination, but has no fever?  Any nausea or vomiting?  You say his glans is not red, is he retractable?  If you go to the doctor, they'll probably want a urine...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   11-24-2011, 05:46 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 967
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
No problem! It sounds like your family is...

No problem!

It sounds like your family is giving you a lot of pressure.  Maybe next time you could say something like "Thank you for your opinion, but baby b is intact, and we are leaving him...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   11-22-2011, 05:27 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 449
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
I agree!  That's wonderful.  There are many...

I agree!  That's wonderful.  There are many doctors who are no longer circumcising, but still don't know correct care of the foreskin and what's normal for the foreskin.  I think what Intact America...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   11-21-2011, 04:04 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 967
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
I bet the teething is the fever...

I bet the teething is the fever http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/smile.gif.  Some babies do teeth at 10 weeks, development is a curve.
 
Diaper rash can often spread to the base of the...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   11-20-2011, 05:22 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 967
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
Not really.  Yeast can cause tiny tears in the...

Not really.  Yeast can cause tiny tears in the preputial sphincter as well (the opening of the foreskin).  It's not likely he was retracted.  That by itself is not very likely to cause an increased...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   11-20-2011, 07:16 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 356
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
My youngest son constantly had trouble with...

My youngest son constantly had trouble with yeast.  On his penis, in his mouth, and he'd give it to me when I'd nurse him.  I started giving him Kefir once he was a little bit older, and that helped...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   11-20-2011, 06:44 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 449
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
Mama24-7 - Nope, must was never in the books for...

Mama24-7 - Nope, must was never in the books for me.  I'm the rare US doctor that doesn't look at the prepuce as the enemy.  I only believe in manipulation or steroid creams (or RIC/non-religious...
Forum: Understanding Circumcision   11-17-2011, 12:50 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 449
Posted By LonelyPageTurnr
No, it doesn't need to if it's not causing...

No, it doesn't need to if it's not causing problems.  That's why I said it 'can' be done, instead of it 'must' be done.  I wasn't sure if you were agreeing with me, since you use the word 'need' in...
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