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Forum: Vaccinations   07-22-2016, 08:38 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I think it is fine that she puts up a petition,...

I think it is fine that she puts up a petition, and I think it is fine that Cinemalibre asks her to knock it off. If she doesn't she may face court action...the courts can sort out if there is any...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-22-2016, 10:19 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 508
Posted By kathymuggle
While I understand why you are making this point,...

While I understand why you are making this point, this really isn't the point of the thread.

The question is simple: are doctors in general (and the ones we see for primary care) experts on...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-20-2016, 07:01 AM
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Views: 508
Posted By kathymuggle
are doctors experts on vaccines?

Poll time :grin:

When I say doctors I mean in general or as a population, and am referring to the doctors most likely to give vaccines - GP's or pediatricians.

Is the run-of-the-mill working...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-20-2016, 06:33 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,376
Posted By kathymuggle
I don't really love the second line. We don't...

I don't really love the second line. We don't really know why some children do not handle vaccines - I have seen no evidence to suggest it is because their immune systems are weak or stressed (do...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-19-2016, 06:39 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,376
Posted By kathymuggle
Rotavirus vaccine performs less well in...

Rotavirus vaccine performs less well in developing countries:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3322519/
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   07-18-2016, 11:14 AM
Replies: 88
Views: 2,193
Posted By kathymuggle
There is quite the irony in appeals to authority...

There is quite the irony in appeals to authority on one hand, while throwing doctors under the bus on the other. Just sayin'
Forum: Vaccinations   07-16-2016, 02:54 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 358
Posted By kathymuggle
Oh, and ftr....I work part time. I love my job....

Oh, and ftr....I work part time. I love my job. I have no issues with mothers who stay home, work outside the home, work part time...whatever works for yourself and your family.

I still very...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-16-2016, 02:48 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 358
Posted By kathymuggle
Hmmmm...not sure. Is this an area of expertise...

Hmmmm...not sure. Is this an area of expertise (or lay interest) for you?

I do know women worked, but when, where and how much are important questions. I think the answer is very complex.

I...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-16-2016, 01:13 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 358
Posted By kathymuggle
What level of immunization we need for "herd...

What level of immunization we need for "herd immunity" depends on how you view herd immunity.

When we discuss herd immunity do we mean enough to appreciably lower rates of a communicable disease...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-16-2016, 01:05 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 358
Posted By kathymuggle
I am not sure how anyone can parse out how much...

I am not sure how anyone can parse out how much of our choices are cultural versus something else...but my money (and we are not just talking vaccines here) is culture plays a huge role.

There...
Forum: Gentle Discipline   07-13-2016, 06:42 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 457
Posted By kathymuggle
No thank you is better than a simple no - but he...

No thank you is better than a simple no - but he will learn that by modelling.

I have 3 very politie children (ages 13-20), and they got that way from having very polite parents. I would not...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-13-2016, 04:41 AM
Replies: 95
Views: 2,384
Posted By kathymuggle
This is not reassuring.

This is not reassuring.
Forum: Gentle Discipline   07-12-2016, 08:13 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 457
Posted By kathymuggle
What is he doing that needs discipline? ...

What is he doing that needs discipline? Examples may help.
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   07-11-2016, 06:04 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,494
Posted By kathymuggle
Even what the word cult means is up for debate. ...

Even what the word cult means is up for debate.

As a child of the 70/80 I immediately went to Kool-aide drinking, mind control, charismatic leaders, and people trying to get their loved ones back...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   07-11-2016, 05:36 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,494
Posted By kathymuggle
For the record: I do not think the Presbyterian...

For the record: I do not think the Presbyterian church is a cult, and yes, I get Emmy did not say that.

But just to play devils advocate here <grin>.....

One of the things cults sometimes do...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   07-11-2016, 11:57 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,494
Posted By kathymuggle
The decision to require vaccination for all...

The decision to require vaccination for all children attending VBS is not a theological decision. It is likely administrative, CYA or because tptb think it is a good idea. There is no theological...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   07-10-2016, 08:09 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,494
Posted By kathymuggle
I think there are solid reasons for the hoopla...

I think there are solid reasons for the hoopla and anger.

That being said, may I just point out that plenty of pro-vaxxer are incredibly angry and make a huge hoopla over vaccine critics...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-10-2016, 10:13 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 587
Posted By kathymuggle
OMG. So I did a little digging on the...

OMG.

So I did a little digging on the measles/ flu thing. He absolutely does not confuse the two or try and imply the measles vaccine solely caused the autism or the flu vaccine solely caused...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-10-2016, 10:00 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 587
Posted By kathymuggle
Healthy is a subjective term, in some ways.

Healthy is a subjective term, in some ways.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-10-2016, 09:36 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 587
Posted By kathymuggle
Yes I read it . Snort. I invite others to do...

Yes I read it . Snort. I invite others to do the same. There are not any huge discrepancies.

Consider this:

The news had made a huge fuss over the flu, and they decided to give their...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-10-2016, 08:03 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 587
Posted By kathymuggle
I have not read the Hooker piece, but I read the...

I have not read the Hooker piece, but I read the Handley one, and frankly, I think they are grasping at straws to even suggest there is discrepancies in his story. I think the pro-vax author is...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   07-09-2016, 08:27 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,494
Posted By kathymuggle
It is a church running a religious program. ...

It is a church running a religious program.

There are two issues as far as I see:

1. Citing a law that does not apply to them (likely to manipulate people into doing what they want, but...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   07-09-2016, 06:04 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,494
Posted By kathymuggle
Citing a law erroneously is a big deal. I...

Citing a law erroneously is a big deal.

I have had it happen to me (someone citing a rule that did not exist) and it called into question the persons knowledge and ethics.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-09-2016, 05:49 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 587
Posted By kathymuggle
Here is why it is crass to question others...

Here is why it is crass to question others stories (nevermind the fact that you were not there and cannot know as much as the person who was)
...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-09-2016, 05:45 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 587
Posted By kathymuggle
Interesting. I have two nephews with autism. ...

Interesting. I have two nephews with autism. One regressed after a virus, and at first people did think he did have an ear infection, and was perhaps experiencing deafness. I find it intriguing...
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