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Ok, I need some help!
I am appling for a Green Card as a foreign citizen married to US citizen. In order for me to get it I have to pass a medical exam- which includes vaccinations. I have to show them my medical records ( which are translated in English and certified), but my records are missing MMR shot ( they did not do them in my country when I was little) so they tell me I HAVE TO GET IT and there is no way to skip it! And I am right now ( plus absolutely against vaccines!!!!!!! ) In a book I am reading right now ( the Guide to Vax) it says I should hire a lawyer who will put a case for me, etc. Well, I do not have to tell you- it is expensive to apply in a first place, and I do not have $$$ for lawer either. Is there some kind of simple form I sign, the same I would for school for example, saying that I do not vax????
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Who said that you MUST vaccinate? Request it in writing. Vaccines are NOT a law in the US and therefore they can NOT force you to vaccinate under any circumstances.

You are already living here, right? Ohio. They have religious exemptions.

Yes, you must vaccinate unless you fill out a religious exemption.

First step is to demand it in writing from whoever told you so.
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OK, I will do so, cause I think it is in writing.
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There are requirements, but there are religious and personal conviction waivers to the immunization requirements as it relates to immigration. You would need to use this form (see the bottom): http://www.usvisainfo.com/object/forms/state/ds3025.pdf

The exception are under INA Section 212(g)(2) - I'll get you a link
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Just to confirm - you're in this country already, right?
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Yes, i am in this country already!
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Yes, i am in this country already!
Okay, then you wouldn't be using the form I linked because that's for people coming in. Do you have this form - this is for people who are already here: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-693.pdf

It states at the end:

"Immunizations are not required, but the applicant should be encouraged to goto a physician or local health department for appropriate immunizations."
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In the link I found it says
If your waiver application is based on religious or moral
objections to vaccinations, you must establish that:
You object to vaccinations in any form; and

You object because of your religious beliefs or
moral convictions (you do not need to be a member
of a "mainstream" or recognized religion);
Your beliefs are sincere.
At a minimum, you must submit a personal statement
describing the basis of your objection.
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Could anyone help me find an example for : personal statement, object to vaccinate and object cause of my moral convictions? Just an example I could use to create my own?
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OK, now I am confused, which form do I use?
I-693 or I-690?
I am an alien adjusting a status!
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yes, I saw that at the end:
"Immunizations are not required, but the applicant should be encouraged to goto a physician or local health department for appropriate immunizations."
But it also said- Clearance - immidiate, so i think I still have to have a waiver
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Ok, I got it now 690 is a waiver I submit ( and there $95 fee for it)
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Ok, I got it now 690 is a waiver I submit ( and there $95 fee for it)

Please let us know how it goes!!!

Do you still need a copy of the actual statute or your good?
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No, I think I got it, thanks! I am sure I will be fine now- that I know it is not required, just recommended!
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$95 well spent.
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If you didn't have vax there is a good chance you have natural immunity. Do you remember having MM or R? I had the measles vax as a kid, but not mumps or rubella, nor did I have any clinical signs of disease, yet the civil surgeon who did my med. exam for my gc app. checked my titres and I am immune to all 3. I did not have to get vaxed.

I would go to your med. exam first before going ahead with the waiver. The doc is not there to force you to do something you don't want to do. My guy just encouraged me to get the shot but was happy to do titres when I said no way. He is actually being paid by you to help satisfy the requirements of the gc application. He may be willing to work with you to help you get there. Even if you tell him you are pretty sure you had the diseases, that might be enough (it was for CP - I told him I had it as a kid; I also told him I had a tetanus vax within the last 10 years, he just wrote it down, no proof required.)

Good luck. Keep us posted.

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Edited to add: I went to my med. exam without doing the waiver first on the advice of our extremely high-priced, sought-after immigration lawyer!
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I would go to your med. exam first before going ahead with the waiver. The doc is not there to force you to do something you don't want to do. My guy just encouraged me to get the shot but was happy to do titres when I said no way.
I see your point, but why get a blood draw when you can just submit the form?
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I see your point, but why get a blood draw when you can just submit the form?
Good question! Actually, when I had investigated the waiver, I was under the impression it was more expensive than $95....it was in the neighborhood of $250-$300. A blood draw was $65. That was part of it, the other part was I really wanted to keep our application as simple as possible - my dh and I are both Canadian so there was a possibility they could just turn down our application if they thought we were "troublemakers" or "noncompliant" or whatever. Just wanted to keep it straightforward, no red flags, y'know? We waited for almost 6 years for our green card, didn't want to hold it up anymore!

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Good question! Actually, when I had investigated the waiver, I was under the impression it was more expensive than $95....it was in the neighborhood of $250-$300. A blood draw was $65. That was part of it, the other part was I really wanted to keep our application as simple as possible - my dh and I are both Canadian so there was a possibility they could just turn down our application if they thought we were "troublemakers" or "noncompliant" or whatever. Just wanted to keep it straightforward, no red flags, y'know? We waited for almost 6 years for our green card, didn't want to hold it up anymore!

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Well, I know I dont have immunity to MMR (checked with my mom) and my med asked for proof over the phone when i made an appointment, (bring the proof of any vax with you)
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I avoided getting any vaxes for my greencard by telling the the doctor I was trying to conceive. That will make the MMR contraindicated.
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I avoided getting any vaxes for my greencard by telling the the doctor I was trying to conceive. That will make the MMR contraindicated.
That's not a contraindication to any vaccine, but I'm glad it worked though.

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I thought you're not supposed to get pregnant within 3 mo of getting MMR, is that right?

If you're TTC, you could possibly already be pregnant, kwim? Just need to get your dates right when you go to the doctors appt.

The annoying thing about them wanting to give me MMR is that I really did have measles and mumps as a child, and we got Rubella vax in high school. I just couldn't prove it at the time.
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I thought you're not supposed to get pregnant within 3 mo of getting MMR, is that right?

If you're TTC, you could possibly already be pregnant, kwim? Just need to get your dates right when you go to the doctors appt.
Yes, that's correct about the wait.

However, merely TTC is still not a contraindication, but if you tell them there's a strong possibilty you are actually pregnant and it's too early to test based on the dates, yes, that's a different story.
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my husband just had to say that he had mumps and measles as a child. but they did tell him before that that he HAD to get the mmr. the doctor that did his physical actually changed the vaccination record to say mmr when my husband said he had measles and mumps.

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Good question! Actually, when I had investigated the waiver, I was under the impression it was more expensive than $95....it was in the neighborhood of $250-$300. A blood draw was $65. That was part of it, the other part was I really wanted to keep our application as simple as possible - my dh and I are both Canadian so there was a possibility they could just turn down our application if they thought we were "troublemakers" or "noncompliant" or whatever. Just wanted to keep it straightforward, no red flags, y'know? We waited for almost 6 years for our green card, didn't want to hold it up anymore!

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Tracy,
Do you know if US OB's screen for rubella automatically?
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Tracy,
Do you know if US OB's screen for rubella automatically?


Yes they do . . . and if you don't have adequate antibodies, you're typically harassed by a nurse with a needle at the hospital before discharge.

Soon varicella screening is going to become routine as well.
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Under new immigration laws passed in 1996 and in effect as of July 1, 1997, all individuals seeking permanent entry into the U.S. must prove that they have been inoculated against all vaccine-preventable diseases. This includes infants and children being brought into the country for international adoption
http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/law.htm#Immi...ization%20laws

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Statement for Parent(s): Section 212(a)(1)(A)(ii) of the United States Immigration and Nationality Act requires that any person who seeks admission as an immigrant, or adjustment of status to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, shall present documentation of having received vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases, specifically: mumps, measles, rubella, polio, tetanus and diphtheria toxoids, pertussis, influenza type B, hepatitis B, varicella and pneumoccocal.
http://www.formdomain.com/affidavi1.htm

There's a PDF file from INS here that may be helpful...
http://www.immigration.com/newslette...cineguide.html

http://laws.adoption.com/statutes/im...ccine-act.html
Which seems to imply that an exemption is available for children coming in as long as the parents agree to vaccinate within 30 days. (Which may be relevant to your kids, unless they were born here)

Anyways, it is a law, but there is an exemption available...
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"If you have firmly held religious or moral beliefs that do not permit vaccinations and you oppose vaccinations in any form, you may still be eligible for immigration benefit. You will need to apply for a waiver of vaccination requirements by applying Form I-601, Application for Waiver of Grounds of Excludability, with fee.
Refugees, instead, should file Form I-602, Application by Refugee for Waiver of Grounds of Excludability, and there is no fee. If you believe there is any other humanitarian reason (to assure family unity or when it would otherwise be in the public interest) why USCIS should waive the vaccination requirements for you, you need to submit Form I-602 with your adjustment of status application. "
http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/va...uirements.html


I hope that helps and you're able to get it all worked out!
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Tracy,
Do you know if US OB's screen for rubella automatically?
Mine did. I think they all do.
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