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Today while I was grocery shopping, they were giving out free samples of some 3 cheese ravioli. Being the pregnant lady that I am, I smelled it and *had* to try it. (It smelled *really* good.) When I went up to the lady, she said "Hello SIR. This is X-brand 3 cheese ravioli......"

Um, I am *NOT* a *SIR*!!! If people *keep* calling me sir, I'm going to scream. I have long hair, but I wear a head covering, so I guess it's not *obvious* I have long hair, but I have a pregnant belly. : And other (presumably) obvious *female* parts. Do people not pay attention?!?!?!

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That's... Wow.

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We have a large population of Jewish and Muslim folks here and MANY women wear head coverings. I've never mistakenly called one "sir." Clearly that person was not paying any attention to you!

That makes no sense.

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I never understood why people can't just not say anything if they're not sure. Like what's wrong with "Oh, hello! Let me tell you about the ravioli!"

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Another wow.....sorry the person was not observant at allllll!

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yes, people are really that dense.
my dp has long hair...and also a really bushy thick goatee/beard but has been called ma'am in the checkout line.
i was twice called sir when i wore my hair very short...one time when i was wearing a dress and heels.
i think some ppl are purposely trying to be rude when they do that.

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Yes, people really are that dense!

So...what did you say in response?

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I have met many many dense people in my life...

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I just had an image of a sweet little pregnant lady patting her belly and saying "Careful. I ate the last person who called me 'sir'." and walking away.


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she was probably on auto-pilot & not paying attention.
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I just had an image of a sweet little pregnant lady patting her belly and saying "Careful. I ate the last person who called me 'sir'." and walking away.

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I just had an image of a sweet little pregnant lady patting her belly and saying "Careful. I ate the last person who called me 'sir'." and walking away.

: That is the best comeback ever!

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I just had an image of a sweet little pregnant lady patting her belly and saying "Careful. I ate the last person who called me 'sir'." and walking away.



I didn't say anything, partly because I never know *what* to say, and partly because... I dunno. ^ would be something of the type I would try to think of.

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she was probably on auto-pilot & not paying attention.
Or, possibly, doesn't realize "sir" is gender specific?
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That person said the same speech hundreds of times that day and most likely was on autopilot.

Have you had an issue with a lot of people calling you sir or just this one person?

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I saw a man today with man-boobs and a 'pregnant gut' (like, 8 months along, nice and round). It was definitely a man, he had hairy legs and a mustache. So basically, boobs and a belly don't necessarily qualify for "female criteria".

Also, since you cover your hair, perhaps your face is one that could go either way. I'm not saying you look like a man, but perhaps it's just without your hair visible, maybe you look like you might just be a very pretty man. (This statement might be coming out way too wrong; but honestly, I've seen some guys who are borderline female because they're so pretty.)

Another possibility: if the person had a hyper-outgoing attitude, they might have been 'joking'. I say "yes sir" to my friends that are girls sometimes, just 'cause I can. I probably wouldn't do it with strangers though, but that doesn't mean someone else mightn't.

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That's just weird. I have accidentally said "yes ma'am" to a man and "yes sir" to a woman, but that wasn't because I actually thought they were of the opposite gender.
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My husband looks like Grizzly Adams. Seriously, google that, then look at our pic in my profile.

So my DH, who has this ridiculously bushy beard is in the parking lot at a department store one day returning our cart. The person taking the carts back inside looked at him and said "I will take that for you Ma'am."



So I guess my answer to you is: yes, people really are that dense.

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Is this thread making anybody else think of Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
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Many many years ago I was with my boyfriend (now husband) who is 6 foot 3, shoulders almost as wide as he is tall, covered in hair and a beard bigger than his head. We had our arms around each other and a group of teenagers walked past and said "Look! Lesbians!" and giggled.
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I just had an image of a sweet little pregnant lady patting her belly and saying "Careful. I ate the last person who called me 'sir'." and walking away.



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she was probably on auto-pilot & not paying attention.
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Once, I went into a small corner market type store. My hair was in a ponytail, and I was sort of standing there blanking out while waiting for the surfer type guys in front of me to finish up. The cashier was talking to them, engaging them... then they left, the cashier turns to the register (he didn't look at me directly, just like a sideways glance so he knew the general position of where I was standing, you know?) and said "will that be all, sir?". I said yes, thank you. He looked at me and turned red instantly
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she wasn't paying attention to you, really. Obviously!

how was the ravioli??
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I had an old boss that was not a native speaker of English. Even though is English language skills were really great and he had a PhD he messed up he and she constantly. I know nothing about his first language, but I'm pretty sure there no distinction in it.

He offended people all the time and I don't think he ever noticed. I corrected him often, but stopped after a while because he'd get me these "stop being a mouthy subordinate" looks.

In this situation I think that the sample person had worked 15 hours straight and just didn't care anymore.
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she was probably on auto-pilot & not paying attention.
I agree. Imagine saying "have some ravioli" 300 times an hour. How long do you think you'd last before everyone started to look the same? I worked retail for a long time, after a while, you're just going through the motions.
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That person said the same speech hundreds of times that day and most likely was on autopilot.

Have you had an issue with a lot of people calling you sir or just this one person?
It's happened once before, but I was wearing girly-girl stuff (baby doll shirt, hair all prettied up (before I started covering), and make-up.

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I saw a man today with man-boobs and a 'pregnant gut' (like, 8 months along, nice and round). It was definitely a man, he had hairy legs and a mustache. So basically, boobs and a belly don't necessarily qualify for "female criteria".

Also, since you cover your hair, perhaps your face is one that could go either way. I'm not saying you look like a man, but perhaps it's just without your hair visible, maybe you look like you might just be a very pretty man. (This statement might be coming out way too wrong; but honestly, I've seen some guys who are borderline female because they're so pretty.)

Another possibility: if the person had a hyper-outgoing attitude, they might have been 'joking'. I say "yes sir" to my friends that are girls sometimes, just 'cause I can. I probably wouldn't do it with strangers though, but that doesn't mean someone else mightn't.
Could be. If I was a guy, I'd be a durn purdy one. (But I don't have a mustache, I promise.)

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she wasn't paying attention to you, really. Obviously!

how was the ravioli??
The ravioli was *fantastic!!!* So good, I actually was going to spend the $6.50 to get some, but they were all out.

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I agree. Imagine saying "have some ravioli" 300 times an hour. How long do you think you'd last before everyone started to look the same? I worked retail for a long time, after a while, you're just going through the motions.
I understand, but when I was working, I still tried to not do that.

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I saw a man today with man-boobs and a 'pregnant gut' (like, 8 months along, nice and round). It was definitely a man, he had hairy legs and a mustache.
I'm all woman, but I have hairy legs. And I'd have a mustache too if I was less vain about facial hair (I do wax my upper lip.)

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I've been working in retail for many years, and although I've never done it myself, I've seen many people say things like that on accident. Usually it's a new person, who is very nervous and frazzled. Or an experienced person who is just really busy and got momentarily unfocused. And also, there really are people that dense--and I've worked with them .
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I said, "Thank you, ma'am" to the GUY working the rock wall at my gym the other day. I knew AS IT WAS COMING OUT that it was the wrong word. I corrected myself, apologized to him, and then said, "That was awesome of me. "



The sad thing is, I know several of the employees there, so I don't know WHAT was going on in my head.

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