Originally Posted by prosciencemum
Interesting (very maths based) article on how long various conspiracies could hold given the number of people who have to be involved and assuming a (very low) probability that each one would become a whistleblower.
Dr. David Robert Grimes's aforecited paper ("On the Viability of Conspiratorial Beliefs", PLoS One, Vol. 11, No. 1 [Jan. 26, 2016], Art. No. e0147905 [17 pp.], doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0147905) makes anti-realistic assumptions which don't apply to the real world. For instance, from his paper, p. 3: "We further assume that a leak of information from any conspirator is sufficient to expose the conspiracy and render it redundant--such leaks might be intentional (in the form of whistle-blowing or defection) or accidental (mistaken release of information)." Like the antiempirical nonscience of Anthropogenic Global Warming Theory, a fanciful model is created which has little to nothing to do with reality.
However, a conspiracy is simply when two or more people work together to do something improper to another or others (of which actions may or may not be kept secret, i.e., secrecy is not a necessary component for actions to be a conspiracy). Everyone with an average-or-higher intelligence is a conspiracy theorist.
Ultimately it's not a hermetic secrecy that governments rely on in order to maintain their power and control. What they rely on most of all is indoctrination so extensive that even if their subjects are presented with all the facts and documentation involving the government's criminal activity, said subjects will reject it because it is too horrific for them to come to terms with.
As an illustration of the previous paragraph's point, it is now known from US President Lyndon Johnson's presidential telephone recordings that the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was used by the Johnson administration as the casus belli to fully enter the Vietnam War in 1964, was deliberately staged by President Johnson and the US government's highest military leaders as the pretext to get the US directly involved in the war. Moreover, the Johnson administration intentionally lied to the American public about the nature of the Gulf of Tonkin incident. According to the US government's casualty statistics on the Vietnam War, from 1956 through 1964, a total of 401 US military personnel were killed in Vietnam. However, a total of 58,193 US military members were killed during the entire Vietnam War, meaning that almost all of these people were killed due to this very deliberate conspiracy. In pp. 71-75 of my following article (published under my legal name--I'm male-to-female transgendered), I go over this publicly-available material, such as from the Presidential Recordings Program, Miller Center of Public Affairs, University of Virginia, which come from the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library & Museum, US National Archives and Records Administration:
* James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network, Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708.
My above article concerns physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), which is also required by said known physical laws. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals.
As a further instance of how it is not an air-tight seal of secrecy that governments rely on for impunity regarding their conspiracies, the below item concerns how the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) own studies showed that there was a significant increase of autism among the vaccinated; they intentionally destroyed documents pertaining to that fact; and deliberately lied to the public about the results of their own studies:
* Ben Swann, "CDC, Vaccines and Autism", Truth in Media, Jan. 26, 2016. Includes CDC documents released by former CDC employee and whistleblower Dr. William Thompson.
Furthermore, the most egregious perpetrators of murderously brutal conspiracies are governments upon their own innocent citizens. More than six times the amount of noncombatants have been systematically murdered for purely ideological reasons by their own governments within the past century than were killed in that same time-span from wars. From 1900 to 1923, various Turkish regimes murdered from 3.5 million to over 4.3 million of its own Armenians, Greeks, Nestorians, and other Christians. The Soviet government murdered over 61 million of its own noncombatant subjects. The communist Chinese government murdered over 76 million of it own subjects. The National Socialist German government murdered some 16 million of it own subjects. And that's only a sampling of governments mass-murdering their own noncombatant subjects within the past century. (The preceding figures are from Prof. Rudolph Joseph Rummel's University of Hawaii website.)
All totaled, neither the private-sector crime which government is largely responsible for promoting and causing nor even the wars committed by governments upon the subjects of other governments come anywhere close to the crimes government is directly responsible for committing against its own citizens--certainly not in amount of numbers. Without a doubt, the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has been the people's very own government. (This is also historically true for the US government, as no group has killed more US citizens than the US government: e.g., with the Civil War; etc.)
Not only were all of these government mass-slaughters conspiracies--massive conspiracies, at that--but they were conspiracies of which, e.g., the 9/11 attacks are quite piddling by comparison.
On the matter of the intensive conditioning of the public by government to recoil from conspiracy charges which inculpate it (while at the same time accepting the mendacious, anti-veridical and self-serving conspiracy theories the government promulgates), the following passage by Prof. Murray N. Rothbard is quite edifying:
It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any "conspiracy theory of history"; for a search for "conspiracies" means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds. If, however, any tyranny imposed by the State, or venality, or aggressive war, was caused not by the State rulers but by mysterious and arcane "social forces," or by the imperfect state of the world or, if in some way, everyone was responsible ("We Are All Murderers," proclaims one slogan), then there is no point to the people becoming indignant or rising up against such misdeeds. Furthermore, an attack on "conspiracy theories" means that the subjects will become more gullible in believing the "general welfare" reasons that are always put forth by the State for engaging in any of its despotic actions. A "conspiracy theory" can unsettle the system by causing the public to doubt the State's ideological propaganda.
(From Prof. Murray N. Rothbard, "The Anatomy of the State", Rampart Journal of Individualist Thought, Vol. 1, No. 2 [Summer 1965], pp. 1-24.)
The inherent, unchangeable nature of government is colossal conspiracy. The mere fact that governments set for themselves legal double-standards is alone quite enough to logically demonstrate that governments themselves consider their own actions improper, i.e., if their same actions which they do to others are done to them they regard it as a crime. Thus, the conclusion that government itself is the largest conspiracy to ever exist or that could ever exist is logically unavoidable.