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Pre-eclampsia worries

So I had pre-eclampsia at the end of my first pregnancy. It was what forced me to transfer to a hospital birth, when i'd been planning a home water birth. I was devastated. It wasn't all bad, I still had a natural birth, but it wasn't the birth I wanted. This time around I haven't yet shown any signs of it, but that doesn't mean anything as it didn't develop till my last month of pregnancy.

I just want to know how to lower my chances of developing it this time so I can have the water birth i've always dreamed of. From what i've read online, it's supposedly impossible to prevent, but I think there has to be something I can do to try to avoid it.

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I saw this article showing that L-arginine, taken as part of an antioxidant complex reduces the risk of pre-E. I have also heard vitamin D, but haven't seen studies on it.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/226118.php

Try not to fall into the blame yourself trap, when trying to prevent complications. Like you said, it is hard to prevent, but good to be proactive. I blamed myself for my induction, and it really wasn't healthy.
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Have you heard of the Brewer Diet? I did The Bradley Method with my first and it was strongly advocated there. The only negative I have heard is possible larger babies.
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Just came across this forum post and thought you might find it useful. Specifically comment #7 I'm linking to.

https://www.mothering.com/forum/19-i-...l#post12663875

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I am in the exact same situation. Most of the doctors that I have spoken with have said that although there is an increased chance of PreE in a second pregnancy once you've had it in the first, it is still highly unlikely. It happens often in a first pregnancy and never becomes an issue again.
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I had PreE in my 1st pregnency. The doctors couldn't find a reason for it but they recommended I take a baby aspirin from BFP to 36 weeks with my 2nd. I did and never got PreE. I would talk to your doctor or midwife about taking a baby/low dose aspirin.

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I just set up my first appointment with a naturopathic doctor/midwife. I'm hoping she'll have some good ideas on ways to prevent pre-e altogether or at least really lower my chances of developing it. I really really want a water-birth this time! It just sounds so much more relaxing, not to mention how it's supposed to be less painful. I've also heard it lowers blood-pressure too.

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Got my first high reading today 138/80 is it too late to bring things back down to normal? Not sure what to do at this point.
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My midwife recommended specific herbs to use when my blood pressure started rising at the end of my last pregnancy. When I am on my laptop I will see if I still have it.

I know that Hawthrone was one of the herbs because I will have the bottle. Also being mindful to rest, I would also add in some daily Epsom salt baths or foot soaks too.

I did as she suggested and it helped keep my blood pressure from going up once she was able to really get my attention with how important it was.

One thing now is to not get stressed over the numbers and work up over it. The number is what it is and doesn't mean it has tostay there or go up.

I would recommend trying some guided relaxation or mindfulness meditation to also relax. I have The Mindfulness App on my phone and it has short guided meditations that help when I start overthinking things I am worried about. Well worth the couple dollars for the app.
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Thanks @xixstar . Let me know if you remember what herbs they were. Yeah I know getting stressed about it will only make things worse.
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So I checked myself today. It was 140/85 at home. Checked myself manually. It was slightly challenging putting the cuff on myself, lol. Then later I went to walmart and checked it over by the pharmacy using the machine and it was 138/89. Picked up some low dose asprin and some compression socks. Boy those socks are a challenge to get on! I have to say that so far they feel great! We'll see how I feel after wearing them all night though, lol.
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150/100 and later 144/100. Well it nearly reached 90 today so I suppose it's to be expected.
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Here is what I had which I was able to find online here:
http://www.sherrybushnell.com/abbhighbloodpressure.htm

Herbal Program for Pregnancy Induced Hypertension

Nutrition
Protein intake 100 grams or more daily - (if getting 100 already may still want to add a protein shake daily)
Regular quality salt intake (earth salt, celtic sea salt, soy sauce)
Minimum of 64 oz water daily in addition to teas below
Flax seed oil 1 Tablespoon daily
Foods that help are buckwheat, onions, garlic, parsley, cucumber (overripe best-eat one daily) and watermelon

Vitamins
Vitamin E 500 I.U.s taken at a meal containing fat
Potassium 1 extra banana or a 95mg tablet daily
Calcium 1000-1200mg with 500-600mg Magnesium daily

Herbal Tinctures, teas and capsules
Skullcap tea two cups a day
Hawthorne capsules 1 at each meal
Valerian 1 or 2 capsules at bedtime daily
Garlic capsules 500mg daily

Alternate these two tinctures Relaxer Tonic one day Liver Tonic the next
Relaxer tonic containing- Hops, Passion Flower, Hawthorne and Lemon Balm
Liver and Kidney tonic containing-Milk thistle, dandelion, marshmallow, and chamomile

(If you can?t find these tonics, then do tea infusions) Make a big sludge of teas. in 1 qt of water and drink throughout the day. Tinctures are best if you can find them.

Relaxation sessions
2 - 20 minute sessions a day

IF ALL ELSE FAILS
Add to the rest of the directions above
500mg capsules of bee pollen 3 x daily
Coenzyme Q10 50mg 2 x a daily

On days when you go to see caregiver for a BP check make a giant cup of skullcap tea (nervine relaxer) and drink it right up until you get in for the BP check.
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I did the skullcap, Hawthrone and valerian. I also did the calcium and magnesium and I used milk thistle tincture and dandelion root (supplement) because I had those on hand already.

I was very consistent with doing the herbs because my bp kept increasing and I did not want to risk out of my birth. I also started being able to notice when my bp was rising based on how I felt physically.

I also did cucumbers and watermelon, made sure I got lots of water and rested a bit more as well.
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I've been doing the calcium and magnesium but don't have any of the other things on hand. I'm doing 450mg of magnesium right now. Would 700 be too much? Or should I cut a pill in half? I'm almost out of my calcium magnesium supplement but still have magnesium tablets. Been trying to find a good cal mag to take. Probably have to make a trip to the supplement store when I have the $. I had protein powder that I was adding to my strawberry banana smoothies. I ran out though unfortunately. Now if only the food bank gave out such things. Luckily they do usually have tons of bananas, so I just fill a bag and then take them home and freeze them. Freezing bananas makes it super easy to do smoothies, just add milk and protein powder if you have it!
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@funfunkyfantastic try the Cal Mag + D3 liquid from BlueBonnet. It's awesome!! I get mine from iherb.com. It works really well for me, I even sent some to my pregnant sister in law when she started complaining about muscle aches. I think you will know when you have too much mag because of your bowel movements... ha.

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So I'm at L&D in the best seattle hospital for pregnancy blood pressure evaluation (according to my midwives) I called them after the fire station took my bp at 164/102. So here I am getting evaluated. The midwives assure me that if medication can lower it I won't be induced. I hope so.
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It continued to hover in the high acceptable range around 136/80 or so. Labs and urine looked great though. They said I will likely need medication to keep it in check till term. I go back to see the midwives Tuesday to find out if I'm allowed to do blood pressure meds and stay in their care. The nurse and nurse midwife at the hospital said simply watching and waiting may have the least favorable outcome and that seeing a pregnancy blood pressure specialist is what they'd suggest. I'm willing to go on meds if it means me and baby get safely to term.
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I hope the mess help! Thinking of you.
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Yeah me too. I hope I get to stay with my midwives too, but I don't know if I will be able to. It really depends on their stance on blood pressure meds. The nurse midwife at the hospital thinks it's likely that I may have to transfer to a hospital group of nurse midwives to manage my care. I told them what I really want is a water birth and they said they have heard of some hospitals allowing it, but aren't sure which ones since all the ones they know ban it. I'm not sure if any in my area would allow such a thing but I guess I could look into it.

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I talked with my midwives and they recommended the consultation with the blood pressure specialist. They said that if I do choose medication to manage it I will have to transfer care elsewhere.

I'm starting to think there's a 90% chance that I'm having another hospital birth. If I had to pick a hospital I think I'd go with the university of Washington even though it's a drive for me because they have all the latest technology and research and high quality care. Plus if I whine enough I might be able to get the dreaded and according to them "dangerous" nitrous for all of 2 hours. I suppose I'd save it for last and spend most of my time in the whirlpool tub with a fan pointed at my face. No water birth though unless I flat out refuse to move out of the tub or just start pushing without telling them, lol.

My blood pressure was rather reasonable today. My diastolic hasn't been high any time they have taken it. It's only my systolic that likes to hover at the edge. Of course when I'm home or at the fire station it's through the roof.
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In the hospital again. Staying overnight for observation due to bp.
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Getting ultrasounds today. Had a couple hours of sleep. Waited up for dh and my best friend to arrive. They couldn't make it till 3am. My friend stuck around an hour and then after she left two Dr's came in for a quick ultrasound to check baby. Around 4:30am I finally got the chance to try to sleep.

I'm on a 12 hour urine screen till 12:45pm. Hopefully I can go home after that.
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Took forever, but left around 4pm. The ob's decided to schedule a ton of appointments for me with them without my permission.

Before I left I was visited by the anesthesiologist. He asked about what I wanted as far as medicated pain relief. I told him none except for nitrous. He then asked why. I told him nitrous was much safer. He went on to argue how unsafe nitrous is, and how safe epidurals are.

Later after he left an entire team of ob's came in to try to pressure me into ob care. I told them I'd consider it but that I really wanted cnm care if I'm risking out. They argued that no cnm would take my case. This confused me as only a week earlier a cnm from there told me they are familiar with managing women with pih and pre-e. That same midwife had also recommended several other hospitals as well. DH sat quietly listening to them bombard me till he grew tired of it and spoke up saying "sounds like a great way to make money." This was followed by an awkward silence. Then moments later they went on to argue that they are all for natural births. Eventually they all left and when another one came back with a list of scheduled appointments I said I was still considering other hospitals... closer ones. She seemed shocked that I wasn't just agreeing to things. DH chimed I'm pointing out that the sheer # of appointments was pretty ridiculous to attend so far away from home. (They want me in twice a week for non stress tests!) We gathered up our things and my new prescription (the one thing we could agree on with the ob team) and we headed out fast so that we didn't encounter any other hang ups.

Looks like I've got a week to find a decent cnm group not too far away. This should prove challenging.

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This is interesting, I found an article on a study done to check if Gestational weight gain impacted pregnancy blood pressure. Supposedly higher weight gain during pregnancy does increase the risk for PIH and Pre-e. I suspected as much. I've gained a lot in each pregnancy. Unfortunately i've never figured out a way to control it. http://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-93...1-0/pdfSummary

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An update for anyone who has been following my progress @dahlia810 @xixstar . I got a value of 324 for my 24 hr urine. According to what I've read that's a mild pre-eclampsia diagnosis. I expect they'll have me start another 24 hr urine after the ob appointment on Wednesday. Tomorrow I go in for an ultrasound to check on baby's progress and later that day a nst. Baby scared me at my last nst by not moving for the first 15 minutes. I ate some snacks, drank some water, and she woke up and started to move.

Also my bp is consistently high. I have been tracking it and on average it's 140/85. There's been some higher and lower numbers.

Looks like I'll be having this baby soon.
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