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Hello,

I'm putting this question out there to the international midwifery community asking if anyone out there knows of any connections to a midwifery community that would do homebirths...in China, Shanghai specifically. My family and I are considering a move to China...timing yet unknown. We are still looking into options, and I am 15 weeks pregnant. Midwifery seems to be a rare concept in modern China, and as I started digging, it occurred to me it might be smart to just toss my queries out in a net far and wide...so here I am.

Many thanks for any information you might be able to give me.

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I know an AMerican CNM who is in China training midwives to do homebirths, but I don't know where exactly. Will have to find out more info.
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Hello mom2seven,

I appreciate your quick response...i will be standing by for any info you find out. any and all info i can collect will definitely impact our decisions re when to move, where to have baby, etc... Thanks so much, kiakahamama!
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hi, kiakahamama

I live in Beijing (1 yr) and used to live in Shanghai (2 yrs). I had the same difficulty as you.

DC 1 was a plain ole hospital birth in SH but when I was pg with #2 I wanted a homebirth. So I asked around. I found out that homebirth is "illegal" in China. It still happens plenty and nobody cares after the fact, but what it means is that any licensed--that is, China-licensed-- professional can lose their license for attending a homebirth. (The rationale is that the govt can't be seen as condoning the female infanticide which happens sometimes here.)

The "midwives" here are all hospital affiliated and cannot attend homebirths under any circumstances, even "emergency". One situation that's too involved to go into there (my friend's homebirth here in Beijing) attests to this fact, her care provider was reprimanded and under heavy-duty suspicion for talking with my laboring friend BY PHONE during the labor. That midwife left Beijing and is now working in the Shanghai branch of the same hospital network.

Anyway, you could fly a midwife in from New Zealand or Australia, if you have the dough and she's willing to take a month away from her life...it didn't pan out for us although we tried to work it that way.

In the end I decided I could birth at home unassisted and I did and it was absolutely beautiful.

There was a hospital 10 minutes away by taxi if we needed it (and we did, my placenta never budged, I needed to go under for a manual extraction but no biggie, I wouldn't change a thing!).

anyhow, back to Shanghai. Even though I'm no longer there, SH has a very active La Leche League (3 groups meet, with 3 different leaders, including one nursing toddlers group!) And there's a few AP moms there. It's a very hip and international city, much moreso than Beijing. I know one other Unassisted Homebirther there, and several who wished they had the guts to homebirth. I'll write you a pm with a yahoo group, too that you should join. Definitely get in touch with the LLL there as well.

here's the scoop: There is a scottish midwife who does not "practice" in China, she's a SAHM now but might be willing to attend a home birth. If I can dig up her # I will send it.

And there's also hmm who is it I met...? oh yes a L&D nurse or something like that from New Jersey, can't recall her name, who seemed calm and nice and although I wasn't even pg when I met her I liked her and wondered if she could attend...perhaps one of the SH mamas can put you in touch with her. BTW All this did me diddly squat since we moved to Beijing 6 weeks before I was due--they're not exactly next door to one another--China's a BIIIIG country with rotten road travel systems!

pls let me know if you have any other q's
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Liora

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I'm in Thailand, but we have many women fly into Bangkok from China just to have their babies. The homebirth situation here is similar to China, but there is one good natural birth hospital. I did that for my first baby. 2nd baby, I found an Australian CNM that was willing to be there "when the baby fell out". Legal issues are tricky. We wrote up a contract for "services" w/out saying what they were and then a letter of indemnity saying we wouldn't hold her liable for any unwanted outcome. It was vague, but covered our butts.

Next time, no midwife available, so it's UC for us.

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thank you everyone for your excellent suggestions, and Liora, for all the links you passed on. MamaRabbit, the idea of Thailand also sounds great...My husband speaks Thai, so that's not out of the realm of possibility. The concept of a 'letter of indemnity' is interesting... Still exploring. Currently, as of this afternoon, we're considering holding off our US departure until after the baby is born (April), as well as finish out the school year (my older kids are in Grades 2 and 4) then plan for summer when the baby is (yikes!)...4 mos?

I will be back for more...all of your comments and experience is valuable for me. thanks so much for all your input! Natasha (kiakahamama)
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