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Again, if Merck can hide problems about drugs, why wouldn't they hide problems about vaccines?
Because vaccines are ohhhhh soooooooo speshulllllll, they'd NEVER mislead the public on THAT 'medical miracle'.

Did you know pigs can fly, too? They grow wings at night and fly around.....i'm sure there's research somewhere proving it.
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Industry "withheld key information" and the federal agency tasked with making sure our planes don't crash apparently "lacks the expertise" to do so.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...b63_story.html

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A panel of international aviation regulators found that Boeing withheld key information about the 737 Max from pilots and regulators, and the Federal Aviation Administration lacked the expertise to understand an automated flight system implicated in two deadly crashes of Max jets
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Industry "withheld key information" and the federal agency tasked with making sure our planes don't crash apparently "lacks the expertise" to do so.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...b63_story.html

Either regulatory capture or regulatory incompetence. But you can trust the experts!
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ProPublica: "With the 737 MAX, Boeing put profits first and hundreds died. One grieving family is determined to hold the company accountable."
“I Will Never Let Boeing Forget Her”
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For the past eight months, however, the Stumo family has dedicated itself to demonstrating a scarier reality: that Boeing, the pride of American manufacturing, prioritized financial gain over safety, with the federal government as a collaborator.
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https://www.firstthings.com/article/...ntific-regress


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Many forms of statistical falsification are devilishly difficult to catch, or close enough to a genuine judgment call to provide plausible deniability. Data analysis is very much an art, and one that affords even its most scrupulous practitioners a wide degree of latitude. Which of these two statistical tests, both applicable to this situation, should be used? Should a subpopulation of the research sample with some common criterion be picked out and reanalyzed as if it were the totality? Which of the hundreds of coincident factors measured should be controlled for, and how? The same freedom that empowers a statistician to pick a true signal out of the noise also enables a dishonest scientist to manufacture nearly any result he or she wishes. Cajoling statistical significance where in reality there is none, a practice commonly known as “p-hacking,” is particularly easy to accomplish and difficult to detect on a case-by-case basis. And since the vast majority of studies still do not report their raw data along with their findings, there is often nothing to re-analyze and check even if there were volunteers with the time and inclination to do so.
The entire article is fascinating.



And, not surprisingly, physics is a lot more dependable than medicine, which is somewhat more dependable than social sciences.


The author points out that the current system is very good at maintaining successful paradigms (vaccines for example) and suppressing criticism of said paradigms.
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The Boeing - FAA saga continues...

Boeing Hands Over Internal Employee Messages Describing 737 Max as “Designed by Clowns”
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“This airplane is designed by clowns, who are in turn supervised by monkeys,” an employee wrote in 2017.

“I still haven’t been forgiven by God for the covering up I did last year,” one employee said in a message in 2018 in an apparent reference to prior dealings with the FAA.

“Would you put your family on a Max simulator trained aircraft? I wouldn’t,” one employee said to a colleague before the first crash in 2018. “No,” the colleague said.

...a pilot working on the 737 Max before its launch said he “was experiencing trouble controlling" the Max in a flight simulator and believed that he had misled the F.A.A. "I basically lied to the regulators (unknowingly),” the pilot messaged to a colleague. Boeing did not inform the FAA about those messages when the company discovered them...
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The Boeing - FAA saga continues...

Boeing Hands Over Internal Employee Messages Describing 737 Max as “Designed by Clowns”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...l?via=taps_top

Must be the same folks who are coming up with the new and improved and hugely more expensive drugs and vaccines these days.
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The battle against GMO technology continues. But the use of this technology in vaccine manufacture is kept out of sight. https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...s-why-wont-us/


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The GMO wars escalated earlier this month when the 2013 World Food Prize was awarded to three chemical company executives, including Monsanto executive vice president and chief technology officer, Robert Fraley, responsible for development of genetically modified organisms (GMOs).
The choice of Fraley was widely protested, with eighty-one members of the prestigious World Future Council calling it “an affront to the growing international consensus on safe, ecological farming practices that have been scientifically proven to promote nutrition and sustainability.”

from 2013 but the craziness continues.
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Sure looks like the EPA has been conspiring with pesticide companies to continue to injure people. https://dmlawfirm.com/monsanto-fined...ned-pesticide/


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I've run into this formula on the subject of conspiracies like this one described above: "if they get caught and stopped then it isn't the same sort of conspiracy as the sort of conspiracy described by crazy conspiracy theorists." Further expanded as: "vaccines are still being proclaimed as good by all authorities, therefore any criticism of vaccines makes you a crazy conspiracy nut."
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Another article about GMO and Round-up problem cover-ups. https://www.theguardian.com/environm...tudies-roundup


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The new revelations centre on studies published in 2010 and 2014 by researchers at ADAS, an agricultural and environmental consultancy in the UK. The analyses concluded “the loss of glyphosate would cause very severe impacts on UK agriculture and the environment”. They suggested a 20% fall in wheat and rapeseed production. However, other researchers at another consultancy, the Andersons Centre, said: “[We] believe that this may be rather high.”


Glyphosate weedkiller allows planting without ploughing, which helps stop carbon being released to the atmosphere. The ADAS research indicated a 25% increase in greenhouse gas emissions – a rise of 12m tonnes a year – if glyphosate was banned.
The ADAS research was used by the NFU in lobbying against an EU ban in 2017 when the renewal of the licence for glyphosate was being considered. The industry lobby group, the Glyphosate Task Force (now renamed the Glyphosate Renewal Group), also used the research, as did the Crop Protection Association.
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Oops! https://gizmodo.com/genetically-modi...zil-1838146152


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As the researchers note in the study, the Oxitec scheme worked at first, resulting in a dramatic reduction in the size of the mosquito population. But at the 18-month mark, the population began to recover, returning to nearly pre-release levels. According to the paper, this was on account of a phenomenon known as “mating discrimination,” in which females of the native species began to avoid mating with modified males.
The new evidence also suggests that some members of the F1 generation were not weakened as predicted, with some individuals clearly strong enough to reach adulthood and reproduce. The mosquitoes in Jacobina now feature genetic traits from three distinct mosquito populations (Cuba, Mexico, and local), which is a potentially troubling development. In nature, the intermingling of traits between different species can sometimes provide an evolutionary boost in a phenomenon known as “hybrid vigor.” In this case, and as the researchers speculate in the new study, the added genetic diversity may have resulted in a more “robust” species, a claim Oxitec denies.

Perhaps we should figure out how to work with nature instead of thinking we are smarter than nature?

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There was a controversial study published in the Lancet. It has been retracted. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/w...us-update.html The press release about the original study got huge play in the press and was treated like "gospel" and then it sort of deflated. Reminds me a bit of the Moderna vaccine bubble from which a few people massively (coincidentally of course) profited. We live in weird times.



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Controversy over the provenance of the database and inconsistencies in the patient records has been rising in scientific circles since publication of the study.
Later on Thursday, The New England Journal of Medicine retracted a heart study that was published by the same authors with data from the same registry. That study, published in May, was said to analyze 8,910 Covid-19 patients hospitalized through mid-March at 169 medical centers in Asia, Europe and North America. The authors concluded that cardiovascular disease increased their risk of dying.
“Because all the authors were not granted access to the raw data and the raw data could not be made available to a third-party auditor, we are unable to validate the primary data sources underlying our article,” the authors wrote in the retraction of the study.
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Turns out the study was obviously funky. So how did it get published in the first place? And why did the "news" of the study turn up on the front page of the major papers? This is really crazy. https://uncoverdc.com/2020/06/06/pol...-nejm-retract/


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The Guardian quoted Peter Ellis, a data scientist from Nous Group, which does data integration for governments. He said that the Surgisphere database was “…almost certainly a scam.” He said there was no evidence that Surgisphere had any analytical software “earlier than a year ago,” and that it would have taken possibly years to achieve data collection and hospital participation on the scale they claimed. The Lancet study was not only questioned by The Guardian, but also by 120 doctors, who penned a protest. Soon it emerged on Twitter that Surgisphere was placed in liquidation in 2015.
One thing that troubles me is how the authors requested the retraction of their own article, from both Lancet and NEJM. Note how both journals stood back as impervious as hospital walls, or parents whose only task is to quietly witness their children’s shameful confession before them. The journals take no responsibility for the utter lack of vetting. Not a word. The authors of the fake study are wearing shame-caps and marched before the reader, while the journal editors stand back. Kind of like Buzzfeed with the “Russian dossier.”

Totally faked data? Not noticed by two of the leading medical journals?
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Turns out the study was obviously funky. So how did it get published in the first place? And why did the "news" of the study turn up on the front page of the major papers? This is really crazy. https://uncoverdc.com/2020/06/06/pol...-nejm-retract/

Totally faked data? Not noticed by two of the leading medical journals?
I can't believe that there hasn't been more reporting on the reasons behind the retractions. (I have seen several national news outlets report the retractions on their front pages, but the articles only mention vaguely that the data used was not made available for verification, etc.). The Guardian did do an excellent job investigating this, including the almost certainty that the data was not real. They found a lot of other crazy weirdness, too. Oh my gosh, talk about truth being stranger than fiction!
(FYI - Surgisphere is the company whose "database" was used in the study. Sapan Desai is the founder of Surgisphere and co-author of the retracted study.)

Surgisphere: Governments and WHO Changed Covid-19 Policy Based on Suspect Data from Tiny US Company
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The Guardian’s investigation has found:

- A search of publicly available material suggests several of Surgisphere’s employees have little or no data or scientific background. An employee listed as a science editor appears to be a science fiction author and fantasy artist whose professional profile suggests writing is her fulltime job. Another employee listed as a marketing executive is an adult model and events hostess, who also acts in videos for organisations.
- The company’s LinkedIn page has fewer than 100 followers and last week listed just six employees. This was changed to three employees as of Wednesday.
- While Surgisphere claims to run one of the largest and fastest hospital databases in the world, it has almost no online presence. Its Twitter handle has fewer than 170 followers, with no posts between October 2017 and March 2020.
- Until Monday, the “get in touch” link on Surgisphere’s homepage redirected to a WordPress template for a cryptocurrency website, raising questions about how hospitals could easily contact the company to join its database.
- Desai has been named in three medical malpractice suits, unrelated to the Surgisphere database. In an interview with the Scientist, Desai previously described the allegations as “unfounded”.
- In 2008, Desai launched a crowdfunding campaign on the website Indiegogo promoting a wearable “next generation human augmentation device that can help you achieve what you never thought was possible”. The device never came to fruition.
- Desai’s Wikipedia page has been deleted following questions about Surgisphere and his history, first raised in 2010
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I can't believe that there hasn't been more reporting on the reasons behind the retractions. (I have seen several national news outlets report the retractions on their front pages, but the articles only mention vaguely that the data used was not made available for verification, etc.). The Guardian did do an excellent job investigating this, including the almost certainty that the data was not real. They found a lot of other crazy weirdness, too. Oh my gosh, talk about truth being stranger than fiction!
(FYI - Surgisphere is the company whose "database" was used in the study. Sapan Desai is the founder of Surgisphere and co-author of the retracted study.)

Surgisphere: Governments and WHO Changed Covid-19 Policy Based on Suspect Data from Tiny US Company
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...oxychloroquine

It is being spun as a mistake, but just a mistake. Not as a look into a seriously corrupt system.
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This sounds to me like tidying up. https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/07/...candal-emerge/
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The fivethirtyeight Covid-19 podcast just did a segment on the retracted hydroxycholoroquine studies. Pretty thorough and worth a listen, if you have time. (It's the first 15 mins. of the podcast after the intro.) They don't shy away from stating that the data used was probably fraudulent.

What Happened With That Bogus Hydroxycholoroquine Study?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...roquine-study/
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I'm reading a thesis specifically on Autism by Toby Rogers. He is analyzing how powerful industries cover up problems and continue to profit even though they are killing people.



Example #1 is asbestos.

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In Libby, Montana, site
of one of the world’s largest vermiculite mines, a local doctor, Richard Irons, figured
out in the mid-1970s that workers in the mine were developing lung diseases from
asbestos (Schneider & McCumber, 2004). But the mine owner, W.R. Grace ‘exerted
tremendous influence on Libby’s medical community. It donated heavily to St. Joseph’s
Hospital and always kept an executive on the hospital board’ (Schneider & McCumber,
2004, p. 122). After seeing evidence of lung problems in chest x-rays of eleven mine
worker patients in a row, Irons contacted W.R. Grace executives to alert them to what
he was finding (Schneider & McCumber, 2004, p. 123). Grace subsequently stopped
sending mine workers to his practice and shortly thereafter St. Joseph’s Hospital
accused Irons of drug use and revoked his hospital privileges thereby ending his
medical practice in Libby (Schneider & McCumber, 2004, p. 124). It took another
twenty-two years before an investigative reporter from the Seattle Post-Intelligencer
stumbled upon the story and wrote the articles that led to an investigation that resulted
in compensation for some asbestos victims and the partial cleanup of the town
(Schneider & McCumber, 2004, p. 183).

Anything sound familiar? We've been here before, haven't we?


Link to his thesis https://t.co/xWLYJxFg2w?amp=1


asbestos story starts around page 99
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I recall in the 1970s reading that "talcum powder is always found in nature next to asbestos".

I do not know what that means exactly, except that both are cancerogenic.
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Paraphrased from "Forrest Gump".

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I recall in the 1970s reading that "talcum powder is always found in nature next to asbestos".

I do not know what that means exactly, except that both are cancerogenic.

I hadn't known that so I went looking. https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/cosmetic-ingredients/talc


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Asbestos is also a naturally occurring silicate mineral, but with a different crystal structure. Both talc and asbestos are naturally occurring minerals that may be found in close proximity in the earth. Unlike talc, however, asbestos is a known carcinogen. There is the potential for contamination of talc with asbestos and therefore, it is important to select talc mining sites carefully and take steps to test the ore sufficiently.

So some talc sources are okay and others are contaminated. Since corporations are known to lie to keep up their profitability, using talc seems risky.
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Thank you, Deborah. Your research skills are phenomenal.
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"Vaccines are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get - acute hemorrhagic edema of infancy, allergies, anaphylaxis, asthma, autoimmune disease, diabetes, eczema, petit/gran mal seizures, fibromyalgia, Henoch-Schonlein purpua, Dravet's Syndrome, Retts Syndrome, Sweet's Syndrome, Hughes Syndrome, encephalitis, speech delay, tics, neurological damage, coma, ADEM, ADHD, AFP, ASIA, CFS, CRPS, GBS, ITP, JPA, JRA, LGS, LKS, MS, OMS, ORS, PANDAS, PANS, PINTANDS, POF, POTS, RA, SIDS, SJS, SLE, SPD, SUDS, TPI, the disease one is being vaccinated against, or death."

Paraphrased from "Forrest Gump".

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Thank you, Deborah. Your research skills are phenomenal.

No, thank you for coming up with so many interesting questions and issues. Sometimes I need something to aim at!
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I hadn't known that so I went looking. https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/cosmetic-ingredients/talc
So some talc sources are okay and others are contaminated. Since corporations are known to lie to keep up their profitability, using talc seems risky.
Like Johnson & Johnson:
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Johnson & Johnson Told to Pay $4.7 Billion in Baby Powder Lawsuit
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Johnson & Johnson was ordered Thursday to pay $4.69 billion to 22 women and their families who had claimed that asbestos in the company’s talcum powder products caused them to develop ovarian cancer.

Mr. Lanier said Johnson & Johnson had spent 40 years covering up evidence of asbestos in some of its talcum-based products and should mark those products with warning labels or focus on powders made with cornstarch.
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Like Johnson & Johnson:
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Johnson & Johnson Told to Pay $4.7 Billion in Baby Powder Lawsuit

Wouldn't it be nice if it was just one huge greedy corporation instead of dozens? Or even hundreds. I get tired of having to be paranoid about everything I buy.
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I was looking for something else and came across this web-site https://www.chemicalsafetyfacts.org/...oison-gallery/


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So there we are. Nothing is toxic if the dose is "low" enough...at least from the point of view of people whose living depends on selling chemicals which end up in everyone's bodies.
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So there we are. Nothing is toxic if the dose is "low" enough...at least from the point of view of people whose living depends on selling chemicals which end up in everyone's bodies.
of course!!! my previous landlord sprayed roundup all over, then denied my dog's reaction on the dog's feet, because ''he only sprayed around the edges of the yard'', and ''it wasn't much''...bullshit -- he sprayed it heavily, soaking the entire ground with it

then proceeded to try to tell me how lawsuits about roundup are 'made up' to shut people up and it doesn't cause cancer, blah blah blah, cuz he 'read all the studies'.....no, he read what he agreed with is all.

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of course!!! my previous landlord sprayed roundup all over, then denied my dog's reaction on the dog's feet, because ''he only sprayed around the edges of the yard'', and ''it wasn't much''...bullshit -- he sprayed it heavily, soaking the entire ground with it

then proceeded to try to tell me how lawsuits about roundup are 'made up' to shut people up and it doesn't cause cancer, blah blah blah, cuz he 'read all the studies'.....no, he read what he agreed with is all.

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He doesn't sound like someone who has ever read an actual "study" anyway. Sorry about your dog! And you!
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I do not know if this is true, but PlumbJackGroup Wineries, is still open through this meshigas.

Yes, the winery in Oakville, CA, founded in 1992 and owned by the Governor of California, Gavin Newsome. He exempted his own business through this pandemic.

So he is not hurting.

This makes me wonder if any of his four children are vaccinated.
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Paraphrased from "Forrest Gump".

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