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I do not know if this is true, but PlumbJackGroup Wineries, is still open through this meshigas.

Yes, the winery in Oakville, CA, founded in 1992 and owned by the Governor of California, Gavin Newsome. He exempted his own business through this pandemic.

So he is not hurting.

This makes me wonder if any of his four children are vaccinated.
They are associated with many businesses in different counties -- so it would depend on the county the business is located....SF is take out only

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A new attack on raw milk is being pulled together. Considering that the medical system and the agricultural system kill many thousands of people every year due to antibiotic resistant bacteria, these guys have a lot of nerve. https://www.healio.com/news/primary-...esistant-genes


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“These findings reiterate what we already know: raw milk contains a significant amount of bacteria that could be harmful to one’s health,” she said. “And with the uptick in interest in farmers markets and buying local, I think it is extremely important in timing — just because some of the states allow the purchase of raw milk does not mean we need to purchase and consume raw milk.”
Due to their elevated risk of being unable to fight off food-borne illnesses, King stressed that avoiding raw milk consumption is especially important in people with compromised immune systems, infants, young children, older adults and pregnant women.
Because of the risks associated with raw milk consumption, “we should be focusing on food safety and consumer safety, and look at tighter regulations of raw milk,” she said.

Shall we start a betting pool on how this study was rigged?


I vote for careful sourcing of the raw milk used in the study. Probably commercial milk from large dairies that are not grass fed, etc. In other words, garbage in/garbage out.
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THIS is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GROSSS.....Alllllllll for making a new cell line

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Characteristics and viral propagation properties of a new human diploid cell line, walvax-2, and its suitability as a candidate cell substrate for vaccine production
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The fetal material was provided by the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology of Yunnan Hospital, with legal and ethical agreements from the donator. Before the study, we made strict and comprehensive inclusion criteria in order to guarantee a high quality cell strain: 1) gestational age 2 to 4 months; 2) induction of labor with the water bag method; 3) the parents career should not involve contact with chemicals and radiation; 4) both parents are in good health without neoplastic and genetic diseases, and with no history of human tissue or organ transplantation in the families traced for 3 generations; and 5) no infectious diseases. The tissues from the freshly aborted fetuses were immediately sent to the laboratory for the preparation of the cells.
water bag method is used so the fetus is still alive and organs used immediately
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THIS is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GROSSS.....Alllllllll for making a new cell line



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...5_lZ2OPis4NDh4

OMG. Horrendous.
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THIS is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GROSSS.....Alllllllll for making a new cell line



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...5_lZ2OPis4NDh4



water bag method is used so the fetus is still alive and organs used immediately
This cell line was developed in China, and reading through the study it sounds like the Chinese government wants to develop their own human diploid cell lines to use in their vaccines. From the study:
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Walvax-2 cells have received qualification test reports from the NIFDC and CCTCC, an important step in their use for the production of human viral vaccines in China. Given that the availability of HDCSs, and therefore the production of HDCVs, is currently subject to external forces, the development of an HDCS of Chinese origin has great implications for improving the stability of the supply of HDCVs in China.

This work was financially supported by National High Technology Research and Development Program of China (2014AA021002), the National Key Technology Support Program (2008BAI54B04–09), National Science and Technology Major Project (2013ZX10004003) and Major Project of Yunnan Provence Programs for Fundamental Research (2013FC005)
It's also important to note that the study was published in the spring of 2015, while China's one-child policy was still in effect. The fetal tissue collection and the lab work would have happened even earlier. The study states that the abortion was necessary due to "the presence of a uterine scar from a previous caesarean birth by a 27-year old healthy woman." Perhaps this is accurate, but during this time period it's estimated that 30-60 million females were aborted or killed soon after birth. Given the known authoritarianism of China's government, particularly with the one child policy, can it be safely assumed that the abortion was elective?

As far as the method, this method is rarely used, and never on a three month old fetus. It's highly unethical. This sums up the ethical concerns pretty succinctly: http://ethicalresearch.net/positions...2-cell-strain/
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...the involved physicians performing the abortion should not deviate from the normal method of aborting the fetus (in the case of a three month fetus, a D&C) just so they might provide “optimal fetal tissue” for the vaccine researchers. But this is what the doctors did in aborting the 3-month old female fetus whose tissue eventually proved to produce the best diploid cell strain out of the batch of 9 aborted fetuses for the Walvax-2 cell substrate. They employed a special means of induction (the water bag method) so they or someone they delegated, could deliver to Bo Ma et al intact fetal cadavers with fresh organs...
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As far as the method, this method is rarely used, and never on a three month old fetus. It's highly unethical. This sums up the ethical concerns pretty succinctly: http://ethicalresearch.net/positions...2-cell-strain/
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using ANY HUMAN fetus for developing vaccines is unethical, immoral and disgusting, imo

and, never say never...how would one truly know...shrug
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I also think this mess is all about money and politics.
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Monsanto/Bayer continues to try to avoid taking responsibility for massive wrong-doing over many years. https://usrtk.org/monsanto-roundup-t...over-monsanto/


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The Johnson trial was covered by media outlets around the world and put a spotlight on questionable Monsanto conduct. Lawyers for Johnson presented jurors with internal company emails and other records showing Monsanto scientists discussing ghostwriting scientific papers to try to shore up support for the safety of the company’s products, along with communications detailing plans to discredit critics, and to quash a government evaluation of the toxicity of glyphosate, the key chemical in Monsanto’s products.
Internal documents also showed that Monsanto expected the International Agency for Research on Cancer would classify glyphosate as a probable or possible human carcinogen in March of 2015 (the classification was as a probable carcinogen) and worked out a plan in advance to discredit the cancer scientists after they issued their classification.

Monsanto/Bayer must have studied the Merck Manual on how to misuse science to cover up harm.
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now the claim is flu and pneumonia vaccines prevent AD, and dementia...note the blurb at the bottom of the article, and test subjects

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However, the largest reduction in the risk of Alzheimer's -- up to 40% -- was seen among people vaccinated against pneumonia who didn't have the risk gene.
how can there be a reduction in risk, when none was there to begin with?????

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/healt...ess/index.html

and injecting aluminum yearly, along with mercury, is just fine n dandy for the brain, isnt it?
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Good research that won't make it into the mainstream news because Bill Gates and Bayer have a stranglehold on agricultural news which is just as tight as their stranglehold on alternative medicine news. https://phys.org/news/2020-08-pestic...-benefits.html


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As many of the underlying programs were run on a shoestring, the rate of return on biological control science is extraordinary. Our work constitutes an empirical demonstration of how insect biological control helped solidify the agrarian foundation of several Asia-Pacific economies and—in doing so—places biological control on an equal footing with other biological innovations such as Green Revolution germplasm. Not only does it spotlight its transformative impacts—especially in light of increasing global reliance on chemical pesticides—but it also celebrates the century-long achievements of dedicated, yet often, unacclaimed insect explorers and biological control pioneers."

I'm sure that they will remain unacclaimed...
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