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The Today Show (NBC) did a segment this morning on "essential" baby products. The opening mentioned that the average couple spends $13,000 in the first year on baby gear. This is astonishing to me. I can see maybe $1,300. But I can't see how you can get to $13,000, even in today's consumerist society, even if you buy top-of-the-line furniture for the nursery!<br><br><br><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18221951/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18221951/</a><br><br>
Huh, I just read the list on the website - and they mentioned a breast pump. In the news segment on TV this morning, they did NOT mention a breast pump. They mentioned bottles as essential. The host expressed concern over plastic, and was told that any type of plastic bottle was fine (over glass) as long as you didn't microwave it.
 

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What?!?!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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That's crazy! Is it a typo?
 

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Holy cow! This is nonsense!! I think it is a way to push parents in to buying more and more!<br>
I am a mother of 4, and I don't think I even spent a <span style="text-decoration:underline;">tiny fraction</span> of it that amount with <b>all</b> my babies put together! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">:<br><br>
Seriously though: a good sling and a family bed works better than all the most expensive baby gear they say is "essential" (except for the car seat of course) If I had known this from the get go, I could have spent even less!
 

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Well, I thought maybe I had mis-heard it this morning, so I went to the website to confirm. The figure on the website is the same, although they don't provide a reference for where that amount came from.
 

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We're only getting two things on that list of the 10 essential things, and our wish list still adds up to about $3000 (that's without a crib, bottles, formula, disposable diapers, a stroller, or a multitude of baby holders). Throw in a decorating a nursery and a designer wardrobe and I can see people easily dropping $13K. I'm not saying it's sane or necessary, just that I can see my mainstream friends spending that much or more (once they decide to start having kids in about 10 years).
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">We're only getting two things on that list of the 10 essential things, and our wish list still adds up to about $3000 (that's without a crib, bottles, formula, disposable diapers, a stroller, or a multitude of baby holders).</div>
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May I ask which 2 things they are? I am just amazed that 2 items in the list can cost $3000. I guess I am just completely clueless as to how much mainstream items cost these days ( I have not bought any in 9 years - except for a little stroller for my 2yo)
 

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I'm sorry Poli! I meant only two of things on that list are also on our list, which has 50+ things on it. We will be getting a car seat (though not an infant one) and even though I will be using a bag I already have for a diaper bag, I counted that too. The other $2850 worth of stuff on our wish list is NOT on the essential list the OP linked to. I think people would be hard pressed to spend the enitre $13K on just those 10 things.
 

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Hmmm... while I could get close on slings and cloth diapers I don't think I could spend that much if I tried. I hate crap like that, it makes people feel like having a baby is synonymous with Babies R Us.
 

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Well, we have everything on that list (most were gifts). They weren't the cheap, or the high-end versions, and it was nowhere near $13,000.<br><br>
Crib: 400<br>
Mattress: 120<br>
Sleep Sack: ? 20 ?<br>
Diaper Bag: ours is a bag I already had, but let's say $75<br>
Diaper Pail : don't have, one would be $40<br>
Stroller: 300. A bugaboo would be 900, a basic Graco would be $100 or less<br>
Car Seat: 120<br>
Breast Pump: ours was a manual, $50. We'll say $150 for moms wanting a mini-electric b/c they are WOHMs<br>
Pacifier: $5 for a pack<br>
Tub: $20<br><br>
Total = $1250. Add in clothes, diapers, other furniture (dresser, bookshelf, etc), toys, carriers, etc and you might hit $4000 for mid-range stuff. I can't see $13,000 unless you're getting designer everything.
 

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Well, the point of the segment was, "Hey, you don't need to spend all that money...We'll tell you what the essentials are." It wasn't to imply that people spend $13,000 on the essentials.<br><br>
My primary points for discussion here, with MDC, are:<br><br>
1) Doesn't $13,000 seem over-the-top, even if you're mainstream?<br><br>
2) The stuff deemed "essential" by NBS isn't essential in everyone's book.<br><br>
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3) Bottles are essential for the TV viewing audience, but for the website readers, a breast pump is in the top ten.
 

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3) Bottles are essential for the TV viewing audience, but for the website readers, a breast pump is in the top ten.</div>
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Well, if you're using pump, you do need bottles <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:
 

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Well, yes, point taken. But, the TV edition didn't mention pumping. Nothing about breastfeeding at all (that I can recall). Just, "any plastic bottle is fine, as long as you don't microwave it." And the problem with the microwave is hot spots, not plastic leaching into the milk/formula.
 

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It depends what you mean by over-the-top. Wasteful, unnecessary and materialistic - yes. Unlikely - no. Here's what babies r us thinks is essential for new parents: <a href="http://www.toysrus.com/registry/truParentsCheckList.jsp" target="_blank">http://www.toysrus.com/registry/truParentsCheckList.jsp</a> I think it wouldn't take much to drop $13K trying to check everything off <i>that</i> list, even on mid-range brands.
 

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I'm happy to see that breastfeeding made the top 10 essentials <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> At least they're right about that!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well, yes, point taken. But, the TV edition didn't mention pumping. Nothing about breastfeeding at all (that I can recall). Just, "any plastic bottle is fine, as long as you don't microwave it." And the problem with the microwave is hot spots, not plastic leaching into the milk/formula.</div>
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They did mention BF! If I recall they quickly showed a BF Mom and baby.<br><br>
I was astounded when they said the average was $13K. I was like what! So I was trying to add up what we have paid and its a small fraction of that. Even with buying a glider and ottoman that was $$$.<br><br>
The other thing that blows my mind is what people pay for diaper bags. I guess I am just too cheap. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> But I can't see spending $75 or more on one. I have a Landsend Diaperbag backpack that I bought when pregnant with my son. I think I spent $42 with shipping.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">It depends what you mean by over-the-top. Wasteful, unnecessary and materialistic - yes. Unlikely - no. Here's what babies r us thinks is essential for new parents: <a href="http://www.toysrus.com/registry/truParentsCheckList.jsp" target="_blank">http://www.toysrus.com/registry/truParentsCheckList.jsp</a> I think it wouldn't take much to drop $13K trying to check everything off <i>that</i> list, even on mid-range brands.</div>
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When I was pregnant with my son this is one of the first things I learned. Do not use store lists of essentials!
 

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I don't know how much I spent on baby gear the first year, but I spent at least $13 thousand on coffee to keep awake at work after those long, long nights.....
 
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