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What on earth is going on? It's been nearly 6 months since either of them regularly took a bottle overnight. (They were preemies and I EP for them.) They gave it up on their own around Christmas - just started pushing the bottle away when we offered it, and that was that. A few weeks ago I thought we were done with our sleep issues for the most part. Even Kate was sleeping through the night occasionally, and Lilly almost all the time. Their naps were getting longer, too - it was so nice! All of that coincided with them learning to walk.<br><br>
Suddenly, though, for about the past week, Kate has been waking at midnight and coming into our bed, then again around 3am and saying "muh muh" and pointing to where I have always kept their morning milk bottle (which I pump the night before and leave out, since it's good for 10 hours). She got completely distraught when I told her to lie down and go back to sleep, so I gave her a bottle of water. The first few times she drank some of that and went right back to sleep. Problem solved, I thought. But last night, she wouldn't quit. And then Lilly woke in her room screaming bloody murder, and we had them both wide awake and screaming and pointing and "muh"-ing. I gave in at 4:45am and let them have their muh. But it was awful, because not only was I tired and cranky, now I am worrying that this is going to become a habit again.<br><br>
Has anyone had this kind of regression? What do you do about it? I presume they were truly hungry last night, but I can't go back here, ya know? It'd be one thing if they'd been doing this all along, but having not needed to eat overnight for so long and suddenly starting back up makes me think something else is up. Any thoughts or suggestions? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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It's totally normal. Dd often slept through the night from the beginning- but she hit several stages where she'd wake up and need to nurse.<br><br>
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This happens here whenever there's a growth spurt. When ds is about to put on a few centimetres he ramps up on both solids and bm (but especially bm, since that's the best nutrition source). It often lasts 2-3 weeks and things get sane again pretty quickly.<br><br>
Any way you can get extra help for just a week or two? I find that these are times for me to just focus on getting both my needs met and dc's needs, similar to parts of pregnancy and the early months. I also find that I need to focus more on eating plenty and plenty of yummy nutrious stuff myself or I get exhausted and cranky quick-o.<br><br>
You might also try offering more solids and right before bed. Carbs and especially something like oatmeal will keep them fuller longer.
 

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I was going to say growth spurt too. DD also wakes more when teething and wants to nurse, for the comfort I guess (but I have also read that the sucking action hurts their teeth more, so who knows??)
 

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Thanks, I think maybe it is a growth spurt as you guys suggested. Maybe some new teeth, too, as they are uncharacteristically grumpy. Boy are they driving me crazy! I love my girls more than life, but being up for 90 minutes in the wee hours, refusing to take a morning nap, and then taking a 25-minute nap from 1:20-1_45 is NOT making for a good day for mama. I don't know what to do with these people! My Dad is coming over soon to help me do some planting in the yard, so that will make them happy, because all they want to do is be outside. But I can't get ANYTHING done here, even feeding myself half the time! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:<br><br>
I am stuffing them as full of food as they will let me today, and giving them a bedtime snack. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I was gunna say growth spurt too. My 16 month old twinss have been doing this for about the past week.</div>
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I feel much better hearing that! I guess I know who to call next time. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I feel much better hearing that! I guess I know who to call next time. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"></div>
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All the joys huh??<br><br>
Last night one twin insisted on getting up every hour on the hour from 3 am on <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: Hes definitly gotta be having growth spurt issues, cause from 3am til 8 am he had3 sippies <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: He pigged out at dinner on mixed tropical fruit and couscous, and butter noodles and chopped up turkey burgers, had a sippy of rice milk before bed, had the 3 sippies like I mentioned, and still managed to eat a waffle and mixed fruit for breakfast at 9am...lol. Its his typical growth spurt pig out pattern...he did it when breastfeeding too.
 

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I'm going to suggest something totally different... Any chance they want to drop their morning nap? I found more wakefulness at night when DS was ready to drop a nap. We still have lots of waking...canines emerging, but thought I'd mention that possibility.<br><br>
Good luck.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm going to suggest something totally different... Any chance they want to drop their morning nap? I found more wakefulness at night when DS was ready to drop a nap. We still have lots of waking...canines emerging, but thought I'd mention that possibility.<br><br>
Good luck.</div>
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I know in my case, before they went down to 1 nap a day, they did tend to wake more at night.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm going to suggest something totally different... Any chance they want to drop their morning nap? I found more wakefulness at night when DS was ready to drop a nap. We still have lots of waking...canines emerging, but thought I'd mention that possibility.<br><br>
Good luck.</div>
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Hmm, that's an intriguing thought! Last night Lilly actually went back to sleeping through, but Kate did the same wake-up routine as the previous night. They've been taking short morning naps, but they always have been short nappers. I'm lucky to get 45 minutes, but lately it has been 30 at the morning and afternoon. Now that I think more about it, yesterday they blew off the morning nap completely (even though they were whining and crying to get in their cribs, once they got in there they cried, which is totally not their norm - they usually go down very easily for naps and just don't sleep for long) and the afternoon nap was only 30 minutes. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:<br><br>
They still seem so tired around 10-10:30am - how do you know if they are ready to drop that nap? I wouldn't mind if they just took one longer midday nap, but if they drop the morning nap and take a 30-minute afternoon nap, I think I may explode. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
FWIW, we had a WBV today and the ped was like "Yeah, I wish I could tell you something that'd help. If they're getting 12 hours over 24, they're getting enough sleep - it'd just be better for you if they did it all at once." Yeah, great.
 

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My boys still act tired around 11 am. I just dont lay them down for a nap til around 1. I just try to get them to do something else....normally they are playing at that time, so we may have a snack, or play a shape game on the computer...something to distract them. Once we did that thier afternoon nap went from an hour to about 3 hours, and the still sleep about 10-12 hours at night.
 

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My boys still act tired around 11 am. I just dont lay them down for a nap til around 1. I just try to get them to do something else....normally they are playing at that time, so we may have a snack, or play a shape game on the computer...something to distract them. Once we did that thier afternoon nap went from an hour to about 3 hours, and the still sleep about 10-12 hours at night.</div>
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I am salivating thinking about a 3 hour nap. Or even a 1.5 hour nap (if your boys nap went from 1 to 3, maybe my girls go from 30 minutes to 1.5). Seriously. I need a drool bib. How long ago did you make the change? L&K are 16 months, but really 13.5 adjusted because they were such preemies - I can never tell if that makes a big difference.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I am salivating thinking about a 3 hour nap. Or even a 1.5 hour nap (if your boys nap went from 1 to 3, maybe my girls go from 30 minutes to 1.5). Seriously. I need a drool bib. How long ago did you make the change? L&K are 16 months, but really 13.5 adjusted because they were such preemies - I can never tell if that makes a big difference.</div>
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my boys are a few days shy of 17 months, technically 15 months adjusted (8 weeks early)<br><br>
We made the change starting about 3-4 months ago...slowly at first. It was a little rough at first but now its pretty easy. One thing we have been trying to do, is not let them nap in the car if we are out shopping or something after thier nap time. It makes it rougher at night. Another thing is I hav been trying to put them down for thier nap at the same time frame everyday...usually around 12-1...no later than 2. Today they went down at 12:30 and at almost 4:30, they are still out cold <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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our dd shifted to 1 nap sometime between a year and 18 months. For sure at 18 months she was down to 1 but I don't remember exactly when the shift was. Our DD was totally a cat napper as well. But our afternoon naps (she goes down anywhere between 11:45am and 1pm) are consistently 1.5-2 hrs with occasional shorter ones (I don't get her up before at least and hour) and occasional longer ones (she's managed a few 3 hr ones... freaky days! Usually long for her is 2 hrs 15mins to 2.5 hrs.<br><br>
Generally if the weather is good we're outside until lunch and then in for lunch and nap right after and then back out until dinner. Why fight that healthy desire to be out (and then I get to go hang with the other cool Moms at the park!)
 

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You guys make a great argument for trying to go to one nap. I think I will give it a whirl tomorrow and see how it goes. Though if they do another 30 minute afternoon nap, I'm going to be so bummed! (Actually, I'll probably just throw them in the car if that happens) I'm scared, though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
BTW, we did discover today at the Ped (when my poor monkey was screaming while being measured <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">) that Lilly (and probably Kate - it was hard to see) has at least one molar coming in. Do you think that changes any of the drop-a-nap theory?
 
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