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First question... If you live in an apartment how do you give you child enough outside time. Also how about if you live in a super hot humid climate. We live in Houston and its fairly unbearable in the summer. We go out some first thing in the morning to a local park and sometimes in the evening when I don't have work but its hard.<br><br>
Second Question - WHat do you do about playdates. I have a 16 month and typically go on play dates with other moms not waldorf moms. Haven't found any waldorf parents in my area. What do you do if they have the TV going? We need to get out but I hate having him exposed to television. We don't let him watch any and I hate for it to happen when we are out.
 

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I don't live in a hot area but I do live in Scotland where it rains constantly. In our case we have a set of water poof trousers, jacket and wellies and go out anyways.<br>
I know that heat would be different as it can be unbearable not to mention unhealthy.<br><br>
As for playdates, all of our friends know that my daughter is screen free and if I didn't feel like I could ask to have the TV off I would try to arrange for activities that didn't include the TV. It has gotten a lot easier as we've gotten older since once we started at a Steiner school, most of our friends just wouldn't put on the TV with kids around.<br><br>
I am not in any way suggesting that you drop friends who are not Waldorf but have you joined a Waldorf parent and child group? Having a playgroup once a week was a great way to get out and interact.
 

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We are in Vermont where summers are not usually so hot- but it's probably like our winters- quite often the winters are so cold there are a lot of days when we can't spend long periods of time outside. So we go out when we can, and then make up for it the other seasons.<br>
If I were to go on a playdate where the TV was on- I'd think that was strange. A playdate is for playing and interacting, not zoning in front of TV! My kids are TV free- and if we were on a playdate where the TV was on I'd nicely ask if we could turn it off, and make another suggestion such as reading a story.<br>
If they had a problem with that, then <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">
 

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We live in NC, so summers here are hot and humid as well (not to mention the extreme drought we have been suffering the last year and a half!). We tend to get out really early in the morning and after dinner. Fortunately, we have lots of parks and nature preserves to choose from. We also go to the pool several times during the week as well.<br><br>
I also think tv on during playdates is a little odd. My children are not completely tv free (although very limited), but we have never watched tv during a playdate! I would also politely ask the mom to turn it off.<br><br>
Good Luck!
 

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Heat: I hear you. We are out every day in winter, even if it's 10 degrees F, but I can't handle the heat. 80 is about my limit, and the direct sun and I do not get along. So we don't go out much. It sucks, but I'm not going to put an issue of pedagogy and theoretical preferences above my health and happiness.<br><br>
I just make sure to have lots of gross motor things for him to do inside, which I'm sure is tough living in an apartment. I have an empty room, and he can run and throw balls and whatever in there. We take the pillows off the couch and he runs back and forth across them on the floor. He can jump on his bed (his room is the only one with a/c in the house), he can have really splashy baths. No, none of this is the same as being in the outdoors, but without the outdoor access, he needs to MOVE indoors. I'm cheap, or I would have bought one of those rocking boats that's also steps, or a rocking horse, or an indoor slide, or a balance beam. Do you have space for something like that?<br><br>
Sometimes, we go to Home Depot, and I let him climb all over the tractors. It's air conditioned in there!<br><br>
If you go days and days without being out (which doesn't happen often here in Maine - at least mornings and evenings cool down a little), you might want to provide some digging and water play opportunities inside. Get a box and fill it with dirt or sand or water, set it on a tarp or a towel, and let him go to town.<br><br>
I'm trying to think what else. If it's going to be months without consistent outdoor play, I might create some sort of ritual for the mornings or evenings when he can be outside for a minute. Something to keep him connected to his environment, even if you just stand on the sidewalk or in the parking lot and say a little blessing or something. I might also have an indoor garden of some kind - houseplants, herbs, I don't know what, because I kill everything.<br><br>
TV: I just ask "Do you mind if we turn that off?" Usually if the TV is on during a play date, it's because it's always on, not because the kids are actively watching. No one has ever looked at me weird or acted like it's a big deal. If they for some reason said that they do mind turning it off, I don't know what I'd do!
 

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Thanks for all the great suggestions. It helps to know that I am not the only one who can't stand the heat. I feel guilty for not wanting to be out there but I am trying to take him every morning before it gets hot. I am going to try the herb garden indoors. What a great idea! I think he would really like that although I am sure my plants are destined to be over watered with a 16 month doing the watering. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> Letting him climb around home depot is not a bad idea either. At least its pretty open.<br><br>
I agree I think it is totally odd that the TV was on at a play date. I think you guys are right. I just need to get up the courage and ask if we can turn it off. I doubt anyone would mind its just hard for me to do. I already feel like the weird one at times cause my son is 16 months and still breast feed. Not weird with some of my friends just around certain moms. Its not like any of the kids were watching it, it was just on. Alright if they turn it on this monday I am going to say something. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 
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