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<p:mad: EC was great from birth through maybe 9-12 mos range. I'd put the same dry, disposable diaper back on DS all day long. He seemed to prefer pooping in the diaper, but I'd catch most pees & occasionally catch a poop.</p>
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Well, then he got to walking & got a mind of his own & didn't want to be bothered to potty. I didn't want to push - I didn't want pottying to be a source of stress & fights, so I backed off a lot.</p>
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<p>Now over a year has flown by & we barely do it at all. DS is very verbal, but doesn't even tell us when he poops in his diaper. If we think we smell it and say, "Did you poop?" He almost always lies & says "No."</p>
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<p>He doesn't even want to pee in the potty before taking a bath! He'll refuse to sit on the potty or stand in front of it, but then get in the bath tub & pee within the first 5 min.</p>
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<p>I re-read some of my book, "Diaper-Free baby" & it seems maybe I have to step back to diaper-free time for him to be 'aware' of elimination again.</p>
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<p>But I really don't think it's a lack of "awareness" - I think he just doesn't WANT to eliminate outside a diaper. :( My day care provider has slightly better luck with him using the potty.</p>
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Any ideas for next steps here? I'm torn between wanting to feel like I'm DOING SOMETHING - but wanting to "not push it" so, again, it doesn't become a source of stress & arguing.</p>
 

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<p>at 29 months maybe approach it like regular potty learning? I don't really know how that is different since DS was out of dipes before 2 (actually I didn't know about EC but was wanting to get this over with before he hit that full-on 2-year-old age) and DD is not there yet. But maybe its a whole different process with a verbal toddler? read up on the gentle/AP/natural parenting stuff on conventional-age potty learning?</p>
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<p>maybe some more naked time?</p>
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<p>what does the DCP think is going on?</p>
 

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<p>You could experiment with telling him the current batch of diapers is the last. That's worked for some people when their LO is just preferring diapers.</p>
 

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<p>I have NOT done EC (yet) outside of some lame attempts with my #2 babe. BUT - I did give my oldest the "push" out of diapers by telling him "We don't wear diapers when the sun is up". He was reluctant, but generally OK.(I knew he *could* but didn't want to)  He was about 30 mos at the time. It gave him someting to "look forward to" as far as getting a diaper back on, but it was literally like a few weeks before we didn't wear diapers at night either. This time of year would be a good compromise for you since it gets dark so early. You could easily "give in" by 5pm if you needed to, but if he was distracted, you could push it through dinner time.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>emmaegbert</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1283879/29-mos-from-nearly-full-time-to-no-ec#post_16097895"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>at 29 months maybe approach it like regular potty learning?</p>
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Yeah, I was kinda thinking that too... but I <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><em>think</em></span> conventional "potty training" puts a heavy <span style="text-decoration:underline;">emphasis on readiness & willingness</span>. I think there is a belief that if baby doesn't want to & isn't interested, then pushing it (even slightly) can be "damaging." Which I guess is why I'm concerned - his preferences are clear - he is FINE with pottying in the diaper, he is even FINE with walking around with a poppy diaper (UGH!) and shows no interest in the potty. :(</p>
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<p>He'll even whine & say "NOO! No underwear!" when I try to put underwear on him. Again, making me reluctant to "push" the issue.</p>
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<p>I remember my Mom saying my brother, the oldest, was hard to potty train & the doctor told her, "Don't worry. He's not going off to college not potty trained." So, again, making me think, "Relax & wait for them to show some interest" is the conventional method.</p>
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<p>Good suggestion though - I own Dr. Sears "The Baby Book" so I'll re-read the potty-learning info there & try some other sources to see if anything is helpful.</p>
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<p>My DCP doesn't really have any insight. She suggested Scooby Doo underwear - Ha - I don't think he's ever even seen the show but he has a hand-me-down Scooby Doo t-shirt that he loved (maybe it's just a fun name to say?) My suspicion is that it's peer-pressure - the other toddlers are pottying, so he will too. DH & I potty in front of him all the time, but that doesn't seem to matter. I'm also stepping up having his beloved stuffed rhino potty too.</p>
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<p>My whole house is carpeted except kitchen & dining room, so I'm reluctant to do too much naked time. LOL - as the owner of 2 dogs, I'm kinda tired of cleaning pee (and puke) from carpets! But it's also really cold now here. Hm, although I do have some Baby Legs, so I could try that.</p>
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<p>Thanks all!</p>
 

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<p>Maybe you could try some gentle things that would make him excited to go on the potty. Let him hold a flashlight on the potty with lights off for a bit when he sits on it or give him a real special toy that is usually off limits of he sits on the potty; maybe something new that he has never seen before. Someone posted this before and I thought it was a good idea; having a little basket in front of the potty and let him try to throw something in it. As you may be able to tell, we had to be real creative with our DS! He had a lot of times when he just did not want to use the potty. All these little silly things would help him regain interest. Once Upon a Potty video worked great also for both my kids. Potty books are good too at that age. Also, not just making the Beloved Stuffed Rhino use the potty, but have accidents too that you both have to pretend clean up! Also, can you have him help clean up his real accidents? That helped my DS because he saw it was much more work to go in his pants that way. He could get back to playing much quicker if he just went in the potty!</p>
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<p>I don't know if your DS is tall enough for this yet, but he also may like a weeman or other kid urinal. Maybe he would thing standing to pee would be cool.</p>
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<p>Maybe have him help pick out some cool underwear or training pants.</p>
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<p>Good luck and keep us posted!</p>
 

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<p>My daughter is going on 27 months and I have the same problem (nearly 100% regression). What helps us is to keep her in gerber training underwear and sweat pants (or pj bottoms). If she eliminates, she's often uncomfortable (it keeps awareness). But if she gets to the point where she'll pee and decide to stay in wet pants, then we switch to pullups. While she's in pull ups, we continue to offer (we never ask because the answer is always no). We also take her into the bathroom with us when we pee. Sometimes she'll want to sit and do the same, other times she'll just want to play in the sink (or whatever she wants, while we use the toilet). </p>
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<p>My point is that we do the best we can to A: Eliminate clean ups on our floor (by use of pullups), and B: make sure she stays aware of her elimination (gerber undies, and taking her with us every time we need to use the toilet). </p>
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<p>The concept is not new, so I completely understand the frustration as to why the big turn around. But it WILL come. Or at least that's what I keep telling myself. LOL</p>
 

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<p>Oh, I also wanted to add that we also went through a phase where she was REFUSING to wear anything. I took that as a sign that she was wanting to take charge herself. Maybe not specifically to the potty, but that she wanted to be in control. During this time, I would just watch her closely, and make sure there was a potty around at ALL times. I even tried moving it back into the closet so she could go inside and pee in privacy. That worked miracles when she was younger, but we didn't have much luck this time around.</p>
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<p>But maybe you would?</p>
 
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