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Ugh. Why is it that I have to be posting this?<br><br>
Background: First DC was born at 21-23ish weeks after heavy, heavy bleeding and clotting and I'm pretty sure I was leaking fluid as well. Our baby was born alive, but he didn't make it. Spotting was bright red and would then turn brown.<br><br>
Since then I went on to have DC#2 a girl that I had a couple very light spotting episodes after intercourse and then another heavier one closer to my due date after sex again. Spotting was bright red.<br><br>
DC#3 a boy no problems... Light spotting very early on, 6wks. Nothing else, everything went great. Spotting was pink.<br><br>
So now here I sit... I've had 2 or 3 episodes of light spotting. No cervical checking, sex, nothing. For no reason. Then today I am spotting again...<br><br>
The blood started out bright red, with little tiny clots in it. I went to the bathroom again and it was all over. With more clots. Still small. Then it turned brown in the pad after awhile. I went back to the bathroom and wiped a long streak with a clot on the end of it. The bleeding went back to bright red. At this point I hate to even go back into the bathroom. I don't want to freak out over something that's not a big deal.<br><br>
I have not done anything at all to bring this on.<br><br>
If I HAD to go to the Dr. he knows of our plans to UC and even recommended that we don't need an u/s when I went in for my one "check up". I needed proof of pg. I don't know what good it would do for me to go in. We can't really afford an u/s. We have an FSA card but no insurance. I guess we could make pyts but we're also in a world of debt right now. Ugh.<br><br>
Anyway, any other ppl experience something similar?<br><br><span>ETA: I am 21wks today.</span>
 

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I have a friend who had similar symptoms and turned out to have placenta previa ie when the placenta is partially or completely over the cervix. If that is the case, there is nothing that can be done medically. That sometimes resolves itself otherwise a c-section could be necessary. Acupuncture can be really helpful for that as well as pelvic rest when the bleeding is occurring.<br><br>
Otherwise it can be an ''incompetent cervix'' (I know the name is horrible) where the cervix opens a little bit. That can usually be handled by basically suturing it shut until the baby is full term. It could also be an infection of the cervix but since it's been recurring in several pregnancies that would be unlikely.<br><br>
There can be other reasons too. I would see a midwife or doctor for that but I am in the land of free health care so I guess it's an easier decision.<br><br>
Whatever the cause, if you are going to have your baby prematurely, that would be one the only cases when the medical institution might be of use. They can give you steroids to mature the lungs of the baby or other things to stop the labour temporarily.<br><br>
It is obviously your choice whether you want all that technology or choose to let nature handle it. Just because doctors offer the possibility of saving a 20-week baby, it's still your choice to decide to put your baby and you through that or not.<br><br>
I hope I am a little helpful. This must be very scary, I wish I could help more.
 

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Thank you so much for your response!<br><br>
I know I don't have an incompetant cervix as that was ruled out with my 2nd pg. I know, I wish they wouldn't call it that either. My cervix is always open a centimeter or two all the time.<br><br>
It could be a low lying placenta which I'm assuming if it didn't move, I'd have more issues in the future?? Thanks for the tip on acupunture!!!<br><br>
I want to be the least medical as possible. I've had to do a lot of soul searching since the loss of our first child. I don't think I would've wanted him to go thru that. I KNOW I would not have wanted him to endure the NICU. Again, that's a very very personal decision and I was always the one who said I'd save a baby no matter what. I think it depends so much on what is going on in your life and how the life of the child you want to save would be if it made it.<br><br>
Every other time that I had gone in with past pg's for bleeding I was always told the same thing... We dont' know. And actually they told me that there was NOTHING wrong w/my first pg until the last 2wks. Mind you, I had serious problems thru out that pg and many, many u/s.<br><br>
With my dd I had the steriods because they thought I might be at risk for preterm labor. I WOULD NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. Talk about horrible. Plus, I was at a point, 35wks, where I would not do that again. The stress from the hospital was more of an issue than anything else and I'm glad I ended up going home.<br><br>
I guess, I'm just going to wait and see what happens. The blood has stayed brown now and its pretty light. I'll see what tomorrow brings and if there is anymore bleeding.<br><br>
I've been thru this with so many different docs and they all tell me the same thing... They have no idea where the bleeding is coming from or what is causing it. So, I know it would be a pointless appt. I'm hoping its nothing and just some weird thing that happens to me. Normal spotting doesn't bother me at all,... It's quite normal in a lot of women. It's the clots that really bug me.
 

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This is the first pregnancy i've not had any bleeding or spotting. I was worried for quite a while there. Heh.<br><br>
Hopefully everything is okay for you and it's just something that needed to be cleared out of you.. perhaps you had a small clot or something. Sounds like your plan is good, to rest and take it one day at a time.
 

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Thanks! I'm hoping everything is fine too. I'm still spotting brown with itty bitty clots or chunks... I know, gross uh? LOL!<br><br>
I was pretty shocked when I didn't really ever spot w/my DS.
 

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There's nothing like spotting to make my stomach sink and my heart pound. I had spotting with my first baby and she was perfect...none with my second and he was perfect too...then none with the next pregnancy and I lost that babe. Go figure.<br><br>
Then I went on and had a third successful preg WITH spotting (which I tormented myself over), then a fourth babe with no bleeding at all.<br><br>
Then I had another preg with spotting, and lost that one. Then fifth babe with a ton of spotting...every day during the first trimester and some during the second too. My guy was born perfect in every way.<br><br>
Then I had a sixth pregnancy with no bleeding and another perfect babe.<br><br>
My conclusion is that you just can't always know. In my case there seemed to be no rhyme or reason to it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I hope it goes well for you and I hope you can somehow just throw up your hands and let it be whatever it is.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2">
 

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It is possible it could be a sub-chorionic hematoma, where the layer of placenta imbedded in the endometrium peels away a little bit, but then seals itself back up. if the hematoma is near the edge of the placenta, that could be the stop/start red bleeding. But then it clots(which is normal and good) and the blood turns brown again. Brown blood is good, that means its old. I would not have sex for awhile(in the usual way), or do any heavy lifting(including toddlers, if you can help it) since sometimes stress on the abdominals might irritate the spot....(if that is what it is).often times it will encapsulate, and not bleed again for the rest of the pg...hope that helps..
 

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<span>My conclusion is that you just can't always know. In my case there seemed to be no rhyme or reason to it.<br><br>
I hope it goes well for you and I hope you can somehow just throw up your hands and let it be whatever it is.</span><br><br>
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I've had the same experience~ spotting with some I've kept and some I've lost.<br><br>
I hope you find a way to be atpeace though, mama.
 

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it sounds like what i have, a subchorionic hematoma like the the pp said. it can happen with multipe pregnancies. i would get it checked if i were you, even if it meant going to the er and not paying the bill. it will get reduced over time, to what u can pay, but that's up 2 you. take care, mama, i hope this clears up.
 

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I want to thank you all for posting! It really helps a mama!!<br><br>
Well, I looked up the subchronic hematoma. I don't think that's what I have. It sounds like most ppl have a lot more bleeding and that it is on the heavy side. I wouldn't say that any of my "episodes" have been "heavy".<br><br>
The advice they did give for women w/this is pretty non-medical... Bedrest, take it easy type of stuff. So, I guess, even if I did have this, I wouldn't make an appt for something I can do at home.<br><br>
I guess, I don't know what this is! LOL! I'm kinda one of those ppl who just let things be what they are. It may sound harsh, but I just think things should take their course, ya know?<br><br>
I don't think the baby is in any danger. I think for some reason which I have no clue, I just spot during pg. Who knows what the "reason" is. Even docs haven't been able to figure it out in the past.<br><br>
I'm really trying not to overeat and stay mobile during this pg, like w/my 2nd. I don't want to gain another 70# like w/my last pg. I'm hoping that if I stay in better shape, physically AND mentally, then the pg will be in better shape. LOL! Does that make sense???<br><br>
I'm pretty relaxed about it really. I'm just taking things as they come! Thank you mamas again! It helps to hear others' stories and what they have been thru!
 
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