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<p>Did I miss a chat thread somewhere?  I haven't been here that long, but I haven't seen one either.  </p>
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<p>I'm feeling exhilarated since I've decided to forgo the 20 week scan and my family is in full support of the decision.  Maybe sometime in the 30 -36 week range I'll want to take a peek, but until then... we're operating under the complete faith that everything is as it should be.  Life is good.</p>
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<p>I'd love to skip ultrasound all together, but I want to make sure the placenta isn't over my C-scar and that everything looks excellent for a homebirth.</p>
 

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<p>Hi!   I know I am in the minority on mothering.com but I love the u/s for a chance to see my baby... it is all so unreal to me that there is something in there!  But I am glad your family is respecting your decision - and why shouldn't they??  <br><br>
I am feeling so content as well.  I keep telling my DH I am "fat and happy like a clam".  I feel like a purring cat, sitting on the couch, knitting diaper covers for my first little bub...</p>
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<p>mtn.mama, what kind of dairy goats do you have?  we have nubians but we're not milking them currently.  are you of the school that separates the billy/buck?  when eating/drinking commercial goat products i can absolutely tell that tinge of the billy.  (and in person it's not that horrible but i can't stand it in my food)...</p>
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<p>i feel like i've had so many u/s this pregnancy and have another one a week from today.  i think if this one is ok i will do one more at 20 weeks and be done.  i feel like it's really only making me worry plus when i'm able to feel the baby moving i won't really want what little reassurance it provides any longer. </p>
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<p>... my dd went without diapers all weekend and pooped outside once, and sort of in her potty once.  i feel as though that was successful and i'm pretty excited.  that is one of my two goals -- to get her out of diapers before this baby comes (and #2 is getting her to sleep in her own bed all night, which isn't looking quite as likely).</p>
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<p>frannie- have you finished any covers yet?  please share a photo or two so i can live vicariously through your skills.</p>
 

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<p>I also love ultasounds.  I have one in Sept. for the big anatomy scan and I cannot wait!</p>
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<p>I think I overdid it a bit this weekend because today my lower back is extremely sore.  It feels like I pulled a muscle on my left side.  </p>
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<p>I'm like you <strong>mtn.mama</strong>. However, I will be having an ultrasound at 20 weeks just to balance things with DH. He's taking a huge leap of faith going with a midwife and homebirth so I'm finding a balance for the two of us. I'll have another one at 36-37 weeks to check placenta location and my cs scar as well, which is another reason why I don't want the 20 weeks u/s. </p>
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<p>I had loads of ultrasounds with DS, but I've found in comparing how I feel this time vs. last time that the ultrasounds only increased my worry overall and just provided an initial relief. I feel more connected to the baby and at peace by allowing nature to take its course. I expected to feel far more stressed and worried without the ultrasounds, but I don't. Fortunately, I'm not high-risk so no one is pushing the ultrasounds if I had been. </p>
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<p><strong>atomic rocket, </strong>I highly recommend seeing a chiro, especially one trained to adjust pregnant women/in the Webster method. The chiro can do wonders for all the pregnancy changes to our joints and muscles. My chiro has even been helping with pregnancy migraines and sinus headaches. </p>
 

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<p>I, too, am really looking forward to the ultrasound.  I would love to confirm my gut feeling on the sex of the baby. </p>
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<p>We're all back in one bedroom - our house was hit by lightning early saturday morning.  The storm was so loud, we'd already been awake for 1/2 hour, and had gathered DS1 into our bed with DH, DS2 and I.  We heard a loud pop, a fizzle (like a firecracker) and the power flickered.  We thought, "wow, that was weird," and went to bed.  When we got up, the overhead lights/fans in our kitchen/diningroom, livingroom, porch and fire alarms all did not work.  Now we're waiting to hear back from the insurance adjustor to find out when we can get this resolved. </p>
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<p>The breaker is off until we can get it fixed.  The only working fire alarm is hooked into our security system, and is by our bedroom.  We live in a mobile home, and DS1's bedroom is on the other side of the trailer from our master bedroom, and I am not comfortable having him sleep so far away with no alarm on that side of our house.  He's back on the crib mattress beside our bed.  Hopefully we can get this fixed soon before he starts insisting on sleeping in his bed again - he loves his room.  Pretty dramatic weekend anyway.</p>
 

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<p>whoa! zakdat, that sounds extremely scary. </p>
 

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<p>We're going to request one more to check the sex and then I think that'll be it for the u/s. I'm at a family practice and they don't have an u/s so they're pretty much just doppler people. I've found that ultrasound only makes me feel "secure" for a day or 2 anyways before i start going neurotic again. I'm hoping for some regular movement soon to make me feel better.</p>
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<p>Wow zackdat a lightning strike! I would not feel comfortable after that having anyone on the other side of the house either. We have some big trees on one side of the house and during big storms I try to stay away from that side just in case a tree falls.</p>
 

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<p>Yay, a chat thread!  I need this.  Thank you.</p>
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<p>hildare, I have large breed dairy goats.... no floppy ears and no miniatures.  I have Saanens, Alpines, LaManchas, Oberhaslis, Toggenbergs and one Nubian cross.  They pretty much run our life... I have 30 does right now.  We only keep a buck on site for breedings, 5 or 6 weeks at a time 4x a year.  I run a very large goat share program and have not had anyone note changes to the flavor of the milk when our bucks are here.  I think part of it depends on the breed, and on the individual how rank the boys get.  I've also found that that rankness varies with the season, so in May they don't smell at all (with good hygiene of course) and in September they can be relatively smelly.  I'm interested in the butterfat of Nubians but where we live they would freeze their ears off, as we kid year round.  Why aren't your girls milking?  Our family is fully committed to always having at least one doe in milk to feed us.  Before we went full scale, our milk goat would travel everywhere with us... those were the days.  We're pretty stuck at home these days... too much going on and no one to turn things over to.  Thanks for talking to me about goats.</p>
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<p>As for U/S choices, I have no mind to tell anyone else what to choose for their babies, their bodies.  But I feel like a huge burden has been taken off my shoulders by having avoided it thus far, and planning to avoid it for the foreseeable future.  If I weren't worried about the cascade of interventions that can come with what is prospectively diagnosed, I might just take a quick peek for a head count.  It just feels really really free to let it all be, and save some surprises for later that won't make a whit of difference right now.  My husband cracked me up last night... he's so on board with me that it blows my mind... he said, um, you're not going to find out the sexes when you go in for an U/S at the end, right?  He was really worried about it.  Cute.  </p>
 

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<p>At the time we didn't really realize what had happened.  We're pretty lucky our house didn't catch fire because the breaker never switched, so if the wires in the ceiling are indeed burnt, then there was still live electricity flowing through them and it could have easily started a fire.  Now that the breaker is off, the chances of fire are greatly reduced, but I won't feel secure until it's all fixed. </p>
 

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<p>zakdat, I hope things get back to normal for you guys quickly.  What a scare!</p>
 

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<p>Good news.  We replaced the area that shorted, as well as the fire alarms, and now everything is working fine.  We're so grateful - it could have been so much worse. <span><img alt="biggrinbounce.gif" height="24" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/biggrinbounce.gif" width="19"></span></p>
 

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<p>mtn.mama.. we're overwhelmed at the  moment!  our nubians are the sweetest things.  we've also eaten a few of the weathers. </p>
<p>i also have a thing about the billie taste-- i am beginning to wonder if it's like asparagus pee, if it's some weird thing that only i can taste (er/smell). </p>
<p>plus dh says he doesn't want to pasturize and he doesn't want me to drink it non pasturized while preggo <span id="user_yui_3_3_0_8_131306520521116"><img alt="nut.gif" id="user_yui_3_3_0_8_131306520521115" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/nut.gif">  but since it would be his labor expenditure either way i guess he wins that one.  but we'll be ready to go at some point in the near future. </span></p>
<p><span>how awesome that you have a dairy farm.  i love love love the goat personality, so much.  i bet that is the most fun occupation.  can i move there and work with you??</span></p>
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<p><span>zakdat, i am glad you got it fixed!  what kind of bird do you have?  saw it in your siggy....</span></p>
 

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<p>hildare, in my last pregnancy I couldn't stand the smell or taste of my cheese, so I know what you're saying.  (wink) we take interns year round to learn about off road-off grid dairy goat management and cheese production.  i'll be interested to hear what you guys come up with for the pasteurization question.  we make and sell everything raw... i wouldn't dream of killing off the good bacteria that keeps us all safe and healthy.  i'm relieved my hubby is on the same page.  on that note, i've eaten sushi several times a week, and last night made it fresh from our fresh caught (frozen) salmon.  yum.  germs be damned.</p>
 
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<p>I've been getting by with walking around with my pants unbuttoned, but this week I need to unzip them when I sit down. When I unzip them, I feel like my stomach falls out! Its the weirdest thing. Definitely have a bump, not bloat and we seriously need to take another belly picture. The last one we took was at 6 weeks!</p>
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<p>I had a doctor's appointment today and she was surprised at how high the baby is! Made me hold my breath and my heart skip a beat because she couldn't find the heartbeat at first, not until she moved the doppler to about a inch or two below my belly button! My DH breathed a huge sigh of relief once she found the heartbeat. 145 bpm! We're thinking boy!</p>
 
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<p>Ladies, I am fixated on the weirdest feeling tonight. You know how when you are way far along, you can run your hand along your tummy and feel different parts of your baby. For any of you first timers, it is pretty amazing.</p>
<p>Well, I keep feeling this hard spot (like how a foot would feel later on) about 2 or 3 inches below my belly button and a couple of inches further out than my boob. I'm not sure of any organs that lie there. And I also can't imagine a hard muscle in just one spot.</p>
<p>Do any of you have any ideas? I've been keeping my hand on it just in case it were to move, but to no avail. And I tried to get my husband to feel it. He did, but of course, he didn't want to be too firm, so, that he didn't smoosh anything. :)</p>
<p>If I still feel it tomorrow, I'm not sure if maybe I will want to call my midwife, and see if she will feel it and give me some clarity.</p>
 

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<p>(wink) be firm.  It's probably just the fundus!</p>
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<p>Maybe its your fundus? First time mom here, so not sure but that's what came to mind. I could be completely wrong. :)</p>
 

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<p>I guess it could be the fundus, but wouldn't I feel it all the way across? This is just like a thing, like a little ball or exactly how the foot feels later on, in just one spot on one side. If it is my fundus, I really need to get to know my body better. :)</p>
 

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<p>Your right about feeling the fundus all the way across. I feel mine in a straight line about 2 inches below my belly button. I'm interested and curious to find out what it is now!</p>
 
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