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<p style="text-align:center;">It's <span><b>December</b></span>, 30-Something Mamas TTC #2 or more! <span><img alt="love.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/love.gif"></span><br><br><span><img alt="goodvibes.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/goodvibes.gif"></span> <b>Our Members</b> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="../img/vbsmilies/smilies/goodvibes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Goodvibes"><span><img alt="goodvibes.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/goodvibes.gif"></span></p>
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<p>I hope it's alright, I took it upon myself to start this thread, since Callie asked for someone to take it over for December, and no one had yet.  I don't know what I did wrong for everyone's chart links to not show up.  Can anyone tell me how to fix that?  I will do my best to keep up, feel free to <span><img alt="hammer.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hammer.gif"> me if I miss something. </span> <span><img alt="thumb.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p>And I think I figured that out, too, but please check the links and make sure I did it right?  Thanks!!</p>
 

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<p>Thanks for starting one!  I have no idea about the charts so I'm no help there.</p>
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<p>I'm 8dpo but not feeling so hopeful this month. I was feeling good but my temps just keep dropping and I don't know why. That is WITH the prometrium too so I don't know what the deal is. I'm trying to tell myself it could be a weird implantation dip but I'm not convincing myself.  It's so hard for me to remain hopeful without being too hopeful that I end up being disappointed and yet not be so hopeless that it's just depressing.  Sigh.</p>
 

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<p>Hi,</p>
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<p>I'm trying to have baby #2! Just starting this month. I haven't been doing temps. We had been thinking about having another for awhile but last weekend was when I finally said "I'm in!"  </p>
 

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<p>Hi All</p>
<p>So nice to see you all here! Can I be added?  It's currently CD8 over here in the land of trying . . .</p>
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<p>Callieollie- Thanks for joining me here!  I hope that your temps are and indication of implantation.  I understand not wanting to get your hopes too high, at the same time.  When do you start testing?</p>
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<p>Welcome beautifulboy and snaduska!  You've been added, hopefully we all get moved to December's success stories!</p>
 

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<p>Mary, I think I'm going to test tomorrow. Unless my temp drops again and I can be pretty sure AF is coming. But otherwise I think I'll test tomorrow and then Monday if AF stays away.  I was going to wait until Sunday but I'm going to be visiting a family friend with a new baby and I don't think I can handle getting a BFN the same day.  My chart is here:   <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/327a6d" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/327a6d</a>.  It would be really early for my temps to be dropping now (my luteal phase is usually 12-14 days) so I am not expecting AF until Monday through Wednesday sometime.  It hasn't dropped to the coverline though so I'm hoping the super high temps around CD17-19 were just the abnormal ones and just make everything else seem a lot lower. I guess I'll see what my temp says tomorrow.  </p>
 

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<p><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);">Happy weekend ladies!  Thanks for the new thread, <strong>marmo</strong>!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);">Just checking in...  CD7 here, so nothing exciting happening over here (unless you ask my DH...  lol)</span></p>
 

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<p>BFN this morning but my temp did end up going up again, A LOT, so I guess there is still hope. Maybe the low temps were an implantation dip?    <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/327a6d" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/327a6d</a></p>
 

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<p>Welcome snadaska and beautiful boy!</p>
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<p>Hope this is your month callieollie!</p>
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<p>AFM: my body is doing some weird stuff. . .I think that its gearing up for my first PP ovulation/AF.  Somethings definitely shifted though. I had some EWCM last week, which i haven't seen in oh, almost 2 years now!  (Although it wasn't much so I'm not sure if I actually Oed or not.)  But now I am feeling majorly PMSy (wow, had forgotten how much that sucks!). . .so either I did O, but had a super short LP. . .or. . .I don't know exactly what. I have been feeling very crampy today.</p>
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<p>Last night had a vivid dream about getting a BFP, so I took a HPT this morning (even though its such a long shot, but that's what the cheapies are for right?!), but BFN of course.  But I'm not really disappointed. . .I'd like to know what the heck my body is doing though.  LAM is frustrating!</p>
 

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<p>Calliollie- hmmmmmm, don't know.  I haven't been charting this time around but will start soon.  I looked back at my charts from dd.  I didn't have an implantion dip, or at least not an noticeable one.  But, I didn't have any dips that went back up, either... Once I dipped, my temp stayed down,and af came along.  <span><img alt="goodvibes.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/goodvibes.gif"> hoping for a bfp for you!!!</span></p>
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<p><span>and speaking of temps, I am anywhere from 5-9 dpo.  I didn't use the opk this time around either.  Can I start temping this late in my cycle, just to see if it stays up?  I am rusty on my temping.</span></p>
 

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<p>Hi ladies,</p>
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<p>I posted a couple of times on the old thread.  <strong>Could I be added?  Thanks you!  I'm on CD12</strong>.</p>
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<p>This cycle (#3) I've added EPO, baby aspirin, and red raspberry leaf tea.  I already take NPC which didn't seem to work that great last cycle (short LP).</p>
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<p>Mary, do you know what your temp is like before O?  I think that would be crucial, but I am rusty on temping as well...</p>
 

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<p>Hi.  Thought I'd join you all. I'm in my mid thirties and trying to concieve #4.   The first three came so easily so it's frustrating. I figure it's my age. We've been trying for 7 cycles now. I did concieve in Oct, but I had a very early miscarriage. That was hard, but I'm not giving up!  I'm on cylce day 5 right now so I'm just waiting for my fertile signs.</p>
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<p>Something strange for me this cylce is that my period is very short. It only lasted 2 days!   That is very odd for me. I usually blled for 4-5 days, sometimes up to 7 days if you include light bleeding to spotting.   Sometimes I wonder if I'm entering perimenopause (sp?) because of some of these strange things happening to me (including difficulty concieving?  Anyone else suspect that?  </p>
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<p>One other thing.  I've been using Mucinex to increase the quality of my cervical mucus.  A friend mentioned using baby asprin to help implantation.  Is there anyone who can give me any information on that and any other suggestions for fertility "help"?  </p>
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<p>Thanks! </p>
 

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<p>BFN this morning.  I'm so upset. I really thought we had a good chance this month. And since the only thing they have found wrong with us is my low progesterone, I figured we could easily get pregnant and now just be able to stay pregnant.  I don't understand why i'm not getting pregnant. It happened the first month with my first two. Now I'm onto cycle #12.  :(</p>
 

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<p>So sorry, Callie.  <span><img alt="grouphug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/grouphug.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p>I understand your frustration!  It's hard!  </p>
 

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<p>Welcome, TTCmama and catholic74!! Here's hoping for a quick transition into the December success stories for you!</p>
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<p>TTC- I don't really see anything consistent with my temps pre-o with dd.  I'll have to look again, maybe post the link.  Right now, I need to go pull her off of the poor dog, she's trying to pull fur and ears. ;)</p>
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<p>Callie- I'm so sorry.  That really really sucks.  Is this the first month with the prometrium?  I feel like I've heard ladies say before it took a cycle before they got bfps.  Hoping that that's your story, too, if not this month.  In the meantime, take care of yourself.  It's so tough, and disappointing.  I try to do something special for myself.  I don't think as mamas we do that very often, do we? </p>
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<p>I took a test this morning, bfn.  It's still too early, af isn't due for another week.  But I just don't have a good feeling about this cycle.  Starting to feel defeated. </p>
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<p>Off to bathe the little babe.  She had spaghetti for lunch, which was dumb on my part, because I wanna go to the library! </p>
 

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<p>I'd like to join.  I posted a little last month--ttc #3.  I'm on CD13 and anxiously awaiting ovulation.  Last month I ovulated on cd13, and the previous month on cd14...I'm usually pretty clockwork, but occasionally ovulate late, but I'm hoping tomorrow will be the day...</p>
 

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<p>Mary, this is my second month using the prometrium, our first month adding the B complex.  I keep trying to tell myself that it might just take time but I can't wrap my brain around why that is, I guess.  My progesterone levels weren't THAT low and my luteal phase was never short so I feel like I don't have that much to fix in terms of the progesterone so I thought it would start working right away.  I have a friend who had low progesterone (really low, though) and it took her 5 months of being on it before it worked so I keep reminding myself of that.  I am just starting to get scared that maybe there is something else wrong that we just don't know about yet.  </p>
 
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