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Somehow I posted an empty thread....Sorry.. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nut.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nut"> I'm not sure where to post this, there were so many issues today.....<br><br>
The nurse was appalled that we use cloth diapers. I put ds in my favorite aio and when I took it off so that she could weigh him she said, "I didn't know people STILL did that." Then asked me how I had time to cook and clean (I'm totally serious) if I was doing laundry all the time! I just laughed it off.<br><br>
Dr comes in and tells me which vaxes we're doing that day. I respectfully let her finish and then tell her that I've been reading some about vaxes and don't feel comfortable with any shots today. Can she reccomend a book that I can read regarding the benefits of vaxing? (Knowing full well that I won't read it, but trying to be polite) No, no book, but have I ever seen a baby have meningitis (sp?) convulsions and then die? That's what happens if you don't get this HIB shot. "And, the MMR is the only shot that has any side effects and those are just fever and sleepiness.) Hello! Has she not heard of autism? ADD? ADHD? Then makes me sign that she explained the risks to me and I am still choosing to delay. (I have Dr. Stephanie Cave's book, any other reccomendations?)<br><br>
Finally, tells me that I need to start rice cereal this weekend. I said that I was planning on following the AAP's guidelines and exclusively breastfeeding for 6 months. Dr tells me that the guideline is for 1 year. I say yes, we're planning on breastfeeding exclusively for the first 6 months and then as long as "mutually agreeable" from there on out. She responds by saying that I need to give him his polyvisol (which we're not giving anyway) mixed w/breastmilk in a bottle so that "he can get used to the bottle." WHAT? Ummm, no thank you. There's a reason we cup feed if I'm going to be gone during a feeding. UGH. (Any good resources on what to feed, when?)<br><br>
So I managed to not get him vaxed today but am really upset that everything was SUCH a battle. I guess my post here is to vent, get feedback from all you knowledgable (sp?) mama's and the name of an AP supportive dr in the Downers Grove, IL area.<br><br>
Thanks for lumbering through this HUGE post, I appreciate it and any/all comments.
 

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My only suggestion is not to do well-babys!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
They are rather pointless for moms like us, more of a hassle!<br><br>
There is a GREAT Dr. in Polo, IL. Maybe too far for you? PM me if it's not.
 

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I'm so sorry that you had to go through this!!!<br><br>
Check out <a href="http://www.homefirst.com" target="_blank">www.homefirst.com</a><br><br>
We use them for our family doctors and there should be a location within driving distance. (ok maybe long driving distance, but still)<br><br>
They totally encourage extended breastfeeding, and they actually encourage you to do a little research before doing vaxes. feel free to pm me if you want to talk more.<br><br>
Oh, and I have never had a comment about cloth.<br><br>
Some of the docs are pretty crunchy, really.<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Oh, wow, that stinks.<br><br>
We do well baby visits because I like to see how ds is growing, I like to discuss concerns with the ped and I appreciate his being checked over. But if my ped weren't supportive of our decisions, I probably wouldn't want to do them.<br><br>
Good luck if you decide to switch peds.
 

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Good for you for standing up to the ignorant ped!<br><br>
As far as other books/info on vaxes, check out the vax forum. Tons of info there. A good book is Aviva Jill Romm's book on vaxes and the vaxable diseases and their treatments. I really liked it a lot. I think it's called something like Vaccinations: A Thoughtful Parent's Guide.
 

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Just wanted to chime in support for you and good luck finding a new ped. I went through something similar with my ped when dd was just a week old and switched to a more AP friendly doc and have been so happy with him...we do go to well-baby checks and are always pleased so it is worth it to switch for your peace of mind!<br><br>
LLL has a great pamphlet on starting solids that was helpful to us. You can probably get it on the website.<br><br>
Again good luck and sorry that happened...I know how traumatic that can be.<br>
Peace.
 

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WOW! we do not do well checks for this very reason! We did with our first, but had to ignore most of the what the dr said and she said a lot...we decided that the well checks did more bad than good and quit. Now for #2 we have a great ped who is open minded to non-vaccing and not doing well checks, she will see our children only when absolutely necessary and she enjoyed that we were using cloth...just wondered if there was more diaper rash. She's in Dixon and Sterling, IL, but I'm sure there must be a more opened minded dr near you. Have you tried asking some of the mothers after an LLL meeting? That's how I found the one we use.<br>
A good book for vac is The Vaccine Guide by Randolph Neufstater (sp?) and Neil Z. ****** has a few good ones out. Another good book, although a little aged, is How to Have a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor...the author (a dr.) btw does not recommend baby well checks.<br>
A good in depth resource for foods and when is Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron...and of course LLL<br>
Wish you the best!<br>
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You need another doctor. End of story. I just took Dd to dr #5 for the first time.<br><br>
Dr 1 was nearby but clearly over the hill - he was forced into retirement a month after I left his practice. Dr 2 was recommended by Dr 1's practice, awful awful awful, I left his office in tears with advice to stop BF and never was going back. Dr 3 advertized as AP friendly, had a lovely way about him, but was fresh out of training at the fatcat university and too inexperienced with healthy kids for my taste. Dr 4 was good but too far away and also not as experienced as I wanted. Dr 5 was great - nearby, highly recommended, and in practice several years so she's experienced.<br><br>
It may take awhile to find the right dr, but don't stay where you are.
 

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Whew! What a horrible doctor!<br><br>
"Start rice cereal this weekend?" :LOL<br><br>
"No side effects to vaxes except sleepiness with MMR?" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><br><br>
"Get your 4 mo used to a bottle?" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/grossedout.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="gross"><br><br>
Here is a link about starting table foods. I don't like to say solids, b/c that implies gloppy icky jarred and boxed concoctions, fed by spoon by the caretaker, instead of nice fresh foods from your own kitchen when baby is ready to pick them up and eat them. More respectful, and healthier too.<br><br><a href="http://www.picosearch.com/cgi-bin/ts.pl" target="_blank">http://www.picosearch.com/cgi-bin/ts.pl</a><br><br>
Look around this site. It has great info about bfing and all kinds of ap baby care.<br><br>
You might want to print some off and and send them to your dr, after you fire him, and tell him why he is fired.<br><br>
Oh, how I hate how we have to play footsie with these uninformed "professionals" and "experts."<br><br>
Women--reclaim your bodies and your babies!!!
 

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Oh, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> ! So sorry you had such a bad experience. I totally agree that you should find a new ped. We looove ours, and in turn, I actually look forward to well-baby checks. She dances around when she finds out we are still exclusively bf'ing, plays with Tommy's belly, telling him how wonderful it is that his tummy is full of mommy's milk, and she is always asking about the cd's that I bring him in. She is so impressed by them that she wants all of th info so she can recommend them to her other patients! For us, well-baby checks are important, simply because I want to know he is growing on track, and since I really trust our ped, I like to hear what she has to say about his development. If you can find an AP e-mail ist in your area, that might help you find a new ped. I know that mamas on my list are alwyas asking for rec's! Hope that helps!
 

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Tried to go to your link, but got the following 404 message:<br><br>
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Yes, you are right. That was a link to several kellymom solids pages. Here they are separately:<br><br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/solids-how.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/so...olids-how.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/delay-solids.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/so...ay-solids.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/solids-when.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/so...lids-when.html</a>
 

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Oh brother, don't bother going back there!<br>
Sorry you had to deal w/such a Neanderthal.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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What's this?
 

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Poly-Vi-Sol is a multivitamin for infants. I actually thought about giving some to my ds; then I tasted it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/grossedout.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="gross"> EEEEW!. I have a hard and fast rule about what goes into my ds: If it's too gross for me, it's too gross for him. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/grossedout.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="gross"><br><br>
I'm sorry you're having a rough time with this <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">. I really like Eli's ped. He's not particularly crunchy, but neither am I, so it's all good. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"> He did something which totally impressed me on our first visit: I mentioned to the nurse that my son has G-6-Pd deficiency, and he couldn't remember everything about it, so he <i>looked it up</i>! A doctor who can admit that he's not the ultimate repository of medical knowledge always makes a good impression on me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> I also love charting Eli's growth. It's fun for me... but then, I like graphs in general. :LOL
 

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Skokie isn't exactly close to Downer's Grove, but that is where I took dd1 when we lived in Chicago. Dr. Minkus studied with Dr. Mendelsohn (the dr.who wrote "How to Have a Healthy Baby in Spite of Your Doctor"). He was excellent. Loved homebirth babies, never gave me an ounce of grief about any of my decisions, cloth diapers, breastfeeding, not vaxing, etc. The Chicago area is a hotbed of homebirth practitioners. This should make it fairly easy for you to tap into a network of providers in your area. You've gotten good suggestions so far. LLL and Homefirst are good places to start. There's also Dr. White and Dr. Elvove, as well as numerous midwifes, naturopaths, homeopaths, etc. Your local health food store or alternative bookstore bulletin boards are also good places to find alternative health care providers. It's also a good place to pick up the local new age/crunchy/health nut/what have you free newszine.
 

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Oh, so this dr wants you to give multi-vitamin (which he doesn't need) in a bottle of milk (which he doesn't need either).<br><br>
Sounds like this doc is only used to artificially fed infants.<br><br>
Breastmilk is a perfect food. A fully bfed infant does not need a vitamin supplement. Vit D can be made by her skin by taking her out in the sun for apprrox 10 mins, 3x/week.<br>
.<br><br><a href="http://www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/vitamin.html" target="_blank">http://www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/vitamin.html</a>
 

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I just wanted to add that the 10 min 3x/week recommendation is for "fair skinned", nearly naked babies. If your child is not "fair skinned" (and no, I'm not entirely sure what that means) they will need to spend more time in the sun. If you take your child out fully clothed (without a hat), they will also need more time. I'm still trying to figure out what this means for non-white people, and how light or dark my son's skin is in terms of these requirements, but I thought you might like to know that they're not the same for everyone.
 

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WOW! I thought I would get support from you ladies, but this is more than I could have hoped for! It feels so good to get validation that what you're doing is the right thing (particularly when you're going up against "experts")<br><br>
I got the name for a local ped from my bradely class teacher (ext. bfding, selective vaxing, etc.) Are there any questions I should ask when I make the initial appointment? And since we just had our 4 month, when do I make the next one for?<br><br>
Thank you again! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bow2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bow2">
 

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We don't do well baby visits at all. my son has been to a doctor once for possible strep throat and my daughter has never been. I weigh and measure them myself at home and treat any illnesses homeopathically. We made it through horrible chicken pox (Son was 2.5, daughter was 7 months) with no doctor. Oh we also don't vax. About the solids, your doctor is nuts! My daughter is 10.5 months and still doesn't want any solids. Oh and she doesn't take a bottle either. Man we are horrible parents! LOL
 
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