Y'know...sorry to say I just don't have the time or patience for this.
Did you know that just before the war, there was a news conference with both Tony Blair and George Bush, and Bush said clearly that there was not a connection even then? They KNEW that even BEFORE they went to war!!!! Shall I link yet again, to the statement made in January before they even went to war?
I mean what does it take? They KNEW before they put my cousin in harm's way, and before they put the local guy from my town, and the guy from the nearby city, in harm's way. They KNEW before they tortured people in Abu Ghraib. They knew before the first soldiers landed....or before they took off for Iraq...!
They have all but admitted lying because admitting it would make them wrong, and those brave few who cannot stand the lies have left their employ and exposed the lies...and yet we are still treated as if we are stupid, with obfuscation and more lies to cover the other lies. This is a frickin' nightmare since Jan 2001!!!!
And you know....as someone who has lost an extended family member I just say, how dare ANYONE try to tell me that they'd rather keep believing the lies because that way their president will look good and that is what this amounts to in my opinion, as well a bid to keep power as their hold weakens daily.
Fact is that OBL and Saddam are always lumped together which shows the very same mindset as folks lumping all of us, who find the policies and actions of Bushco damaging, together calling us unpatriotic or unAmerican. Fact is that there is a WORLD of difference between Saddam, a secular, VERY secular nationalist and OBL, who is a religious nationalist. I mean really. OBL has stated distaste and even contempt for Saddam laughing at Saddam's capture and defeat, so that's all mighty interesting. In fact we have played into just what OBL wanted: a holy war.
Now shall I yet again provide the original and perhaps ONLY scrap of truth left to any of this and link to the article wherein Bush himself states very clearly that is no link between Iraq and Al Qaeda?
All else pales in view of that.
Y'know....when our hometown soldier died and the whole town turned out to mourn, I attended because I worked with his mom for a time. I SAW the flag-draped coffin, the wife numbed with grief, the mother mourning he who she carried within her womb, the little son who cried and will not go fishing with his dad tomorrow. I SAW a town stunned with the sudden dose of reality after taunting me, spitting at me, flipping me off for standing on the corner- in fact standing on the corner just opposite the new community center where the town held its' tribute to this soldier and his family- with my flag because I LOVE my country, and with the sign that talked about all we lose: the real costs of war that no one would acknowledge. And every one of those costs to America: her good will, her credibility, her own children's blood, her precious resources...ALL of those things were true. When we buried our hometown soldier, THEN and ONLY then did all those wrapped in their flags patriots ask "WHY" we were even in Iraq.
My husband handed our very Republican town supervisor the quote to which I have repeatedly referred here, and his eyes widened and he was speechless and when someone asked him at that memorial service why this loss happened, why we were even IN Iraq, he had to say he didn't know! I have known him a LOOOONG time and we have a lovely relationship. I respect him.
You cannot know the anger or the sense of loss; loss of SO MUCH MORE than just mere mortal, corporeal beings, but of their potentials, and loss of the REAL America- which IS my country, to which I am loyal. I truly feel that I have lost my country. Her real heart and her caring and loving way is COMPLETELY gone now and I wonder if she will be given a chance to regain all she has lost.
And people would rather swallow what they are told by those who benefit most by this illegal folly of war. Fine. But I tell you...we are on the most slippery slope when we continue to belabor that which has already been disproven by a Bushco's HANDPICKED commission to investigate the reality of what is what with regard to 9/11; that there was/is NO connection between Iraq and AlQaeda. We all knew it and if everyone had been carefully paying attention, they would have read that even before the US went to war, back a few months previous, even Bush said so, and Blair backed him up.
Since then, it's been shucking and jiving with bullshit. And folks ate it up.
That is NOT my path nor my walk as an American.
And the above post is in violation of copyright, so under 100 words will be fine, thank you, with a link.
I wouldn't trust NewsMax to report that my cat had kittens without a spin to the right. But that is me. Get your news where you wish.
And I am in no mood.
So that is what I think and what I KNOW. I have not forgotten a little boy who will not be able to go fishing tomorrow with his daddy, because of a war that was based on lie after lie, nor that Bush could NOT ever himself say that there was a connection between Iraq and AlQaeda. I will continue in the inability to reconcile that little boy's loss with the importance put on convincing me that there was a link when there was not.
What's the point of this? The cat is OUT of the bag!
There IS however a direct link between what the US has done and the increasingly well organized and committed, increased numbers of terrorists assembling now, though, isn't there? So I would say there is MORE chance of a linkage between the US' actions and increased danger of terrorism, and then, extrapolating, there is more of a connection between Bush and AlQaeda...and we know that the Bin Ladens and the Bush's go back a LONG way.
I will post that link if you like, but I don't care to since I have done so numerous times before. Google it.
Look here even though you won't like it, for info on how BUSH put Iraq and AlQaeda together and further down the page you will also find info on how Iraq actually REBUFFED AlQaeda in fact:
You won't like that source anymore than I like News Max. I guarantee.
Here's the DADDY of all PREWAR quotes:
Q One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?
THE PRESIDENT: I can't make that claim.
THE PRIME MINISTER: That answers your question. The one thing I would say, however, is I've absolutely no doubt at all that unless we deal with both of these threats, they will come together in a deadly form. Because, you know, what do we know after September the 11th? We know that these terrorists networks would use any means they can to cause maximum death and destruction. And we know also that they will do whatever they can to acquire the most deadly weaponry they can. And that's why it's important to deal with these issues together.
And Dr. Rice also rejected the connection and so did others of Bush's own staff. Yet my cousin is still dead and that little boy STILL won't EVER be able to go fishing with his dad again. Those Iraqi children are still wetting their beds nightly and can't overcome the sleepwalking and night terrors. The abused prisoners will still be suffering PTSD. The soldiers will be suffering the effects of DU exposure. The maimed and wounded will be missing parts STILL!
It's not theoretical to alot of innocent people who have been negatively and forever changed by this administration's aggression. It's a REAL LIFE nightmare that will never end. And it will continue to be exploited by this administration to keep us fearful, to keep us quiet and to keep us obedient.
But what goes around WILL come around.
I just don't have any more time to devote to this today. I have family coming from Maryland for the weekend.
Joyce in the mts.