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I am preparing for the birth of my first child, and we have decided to babywear. My sister gave me a Nojo that she purchased for her little ones, but she said she never got the hang of it. I did a search on NoJo here at MDC and everyone seems to dislike the Nojo, but no one says why.<br><br>
Going on the assumption that there is something intrinsically wrong with the Nojo, I have been researching other sling carriers. I like both the hotsling and the peanut shell, but I have no idea how to choose between the two. Can anyone help? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: I have decided that I want one that it not adjustable.<br><br>
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A NoJo isn't all that bad. It got me into babywearing in the first place<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"><br><br>
Here are my reasons why it wasn't the best carrier for me:<br><br>
It was too big for my 5' 4" frame. The padding got in the way and I couldn't make it smaller to make it fit right.<br>
The padding was so thick that it sometimes got in my baby's way. She would fight it.<br><br>
The Hotsling and Peanutshell are fitted carriers. You could fall into the same trap as the NoJo if you don't get the size that is right for you. If you purchase either one, try getting more than one size from a store that has a good return policy.
 

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Ditto on what the above poster said.<br><br>
The padding is REALLY overwhelming if your average size and weight or smaller, im 5ft5 and average weight and I found it extremely cumbersome and overly padded, it wasnt lightweight nor easy to fold up. I felt like I was walking around w/ a pillow on my body.<br><br>
About the pouch, yup...make sure you buy it somewhere that has a return policy, there is an "art" to pouch sizing and every company has a diff size and its hard to get the right size the first time.<br><br>
A simple, run of the mill, everyday, adjustable ring sling might be more suited for you. I really like the basic, maya wrap ring slings, esp the ones w/ the LP shoulder. It ONLy has a very thin pad on the shoulder but it increases comfort like 100 fold <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> ...least in my opinion. They are affordable and last a long time. You can adjust to your hearts content and do alot of diff carries in it, plus it'll fold up pretty small and not be super hot. The tail is open so its swooshy and can be used in any number of handy ways.<br><br>
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A simple, run of the mill, everyday, adjustable ring sling might be more suited for you. I really like the basic, maya wrap ring slings, esp the ones w/ the LP shoulder.<br>
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I have checked out the Maya Wrap FAQ videos a bunch of times and it just does not seem user friendly for an infant at all. In the Maya Wrap Sling Newborn video, for example, the instructor makes a whole lot of adjustments that make no sense to me, and at the end it looks like her "baby" (she uses a doll), is lying with her head lower than her feet. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: It just looks too cumbersome and complicated.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: It just looks too cumbersome and complicated.</div>
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Have you seen the ring sling videos on <a href="http://www.mamatoto.org" target="_blank"><br></a>?
 

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Well, frankly...ANY carry you do in a pouch you do in a ring sling...ONLy diff between a pouch and a rs is a RS is more adjustable. SO if your going to lay your baby in a pouch any which way its the same w/ a pouch.<br><br>
also, who says you HAVE to do a reclining newborn carry anyway? You can just as easy for a laying upright flat against your chest, snuggle carry...its easier in a RS becos you vcan tighten specific areas of the sling.<br><br>
also, the NoJo will only be harder becos of all the padding. I mean, in the end its up to you...obviously but just know as per adjustability and possibly ease of use then a RS might be best as a Pouch can be hit or miss size wise.<br><br>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/duh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="duh"><br>
Sorry about that. Check out the videos on <a href="http://www.mamatoto.org" target="_blank">http://www.mamatoto.org</a>
 

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The thing that's super cool about the ring sling is the "tail"--works for cleaning up baby spit up, and also for covering baby's head to keep it away from either the sun or mommy's lunch. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
The ring sling has a learning curve, yes, but I feel like the carriers that have the learning curves are usually the most flexible in the long run.<br><br>
Have you posted in your tribal area to see if there's a mama who could meet up with you? I was part of a babywearers "club" in NYC when Lucy was first born, and the meetings were invaluable to try out different carriers and get help on how to wear them. (For example, I learned that you can wear a ring sling upside-down, with the ring on your hip, and it acts more like a pouch that way.)
 

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I definitely like a ring sling or a pouch for newborn babywearing. I agree with all the Nojo info that has been posted. I loved it at first, bc it was all I knew. But the padding was way overdone and I couldn't get a snug enough fit, since the "tail" was too short and the padding made it hard to fit through the rings. I bought a handmade ring sling from one of my LLL Leaders and it has been the best thing ever!! I also like TaylorMade ring sling. They come in different patterns and fabrics and the Batik one I have is nice and light, perfect for summer. The tail is a nice length and you can use is as a cover-up, if you're nursing in public.<br>
Pouches are great, too, but as mentioned before, you might want to try before you buy. I like the new native, or for something more "fun", a slinglings pouch. These also come with or without padding. The padding is made for use with an older baby, for comfort, but can be used with a newborn as a more "strudy" rail.<br>
Hope this helps!!
 

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We used an infantio pouch (like a peanut shell or hotsling) for the first 6 weks and then it was over. Ds refused to lie in there. Period. I liked that sling because it had an adjustable shoulder strap but it was awful, I mean terrible for distributing Ds' weight.<br><br>
I didn't get the hang of my Maya ring sling until Ds was close to a year. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> The NoJo isn't bad, its just even more cumbersome to adjust than a Maya. The fabric is very bulky and unless its being used in winter would be very hot for mama and baby.<br><br>
We eventually discovered a homemade wrap. Bought the fabric for $15, cut following the directions on mamatoto.org. Best.thing.ever. I now 'make' and give them away to friends with newbornd. They are so versatile, and once you learn to tie them on its great.
 

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Lucy wouldn't lie after the first month or so either. Once she was looking around, she wanted to be sitting up. I actually ended up doing a sideways kangaroo carry with her, so that she was sitting up and looking out, but her head was still being suported.
 

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Just my two cents: I was scared of anything other than a "pouch" at first too so that's what I got. I loved it for about a month. Then I went to a specialty store and had the owner show me how to use an Ellaroo lightly padded sling and I LOVED it. It really wasn't that hard to get the hang of and I loved having my baby alseep on her tummy high enough so that I could kiss her little head. She is four months now and still loves the Ellaroo. She naps in it every day whereas she's not very fond of the pouch anymore.
 

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I loved a streachy DIY moby to start with, then MT and SSC's. Two shouldered carries are way more comfy for me...the weight is more evenly distributed.
 

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Thank you mamas! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
This weekend DH and I are going to head to the local natural parenting store and check out our options. They have the Ellaroo, Ergo, Baby Hawk, and Hotslings, so I should be able to better judge how I like the ring and fixed styles. Based on all your feedback, it sounds like I would, indeed be better off with a ring sling style. I just don't really like all that extra fabric to deal with. Perhaps it will be less overwhelming when I get one on. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well, frankly...ANY carry you do in a pouch you do in a ring sling...ONLy diff between a pouch and a rs is a RS is more adjustable. SO if your going to lay your baby in a pouch any which way its the same w/ a pouch.</div>
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I disagree -- I find that the rings get in the way of having a small baby lie in the sling with their head on the "uphill" side of the sling. So I prefer a pouch in the early days (say, up to 4 months), and a ring sling later on when adjustability is more important.<br><br>
Which just goes to show that personal preference has a great deal to do with all of this!<br><br>
I have no opinion about which pouch style slings are best, as I've only ever made my own.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I disagree -- I find that the rings get in the way of having a small baby lie in the sling with their head on the "uphill" side of the sling. So I prefer a pouch in the early days (say, up to 4 months), and a ring sling later on when adjustability is more important.</div>
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I agree with the ring at the head issue. You can wear a ring sling upside-down, though, with the ring at your hip, and it works more like a pouch. Just an option for mamas who can't (or won't) buy a pouch <i>and</i> a sling.
 

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I'm a tall mama and I love my NoJo for the newborn stage. The padding on the rail is very helpful for positioning a newborn to nurse. I also unpicked the seaming on the tail so I could ajust each side as needed <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I also have a moby, an EllaRoo, a Vatanai Kipawa and a Storch Inka and Kozy! So I cover the spread with my carriers <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I disagree -- I find that the rings get in the way of having a small baby lie in the sling with their head on the "uphill" side of the sling. So I prefer a pouch in the early days (say, up to 4 months), and a ring sling later on when adjustability is more important.<br><br>
Which just goes to show that personal preference has a great deal to do with all of this!<br><br>
I have no opinion about which pouch style slings are best, as I've only ever made my own.</div>
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Normally whats done in that scenario is wrap the tail around the rings as padding...
 

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I think I must not have explained clearly. The problem isn't that the rings are hard, but that they physically prevent the baby's head from resting inside the sling in certain locations -- locations which can be used with a pouch sling.<br><br>
I love both types of slings, I just find them useful at different stages of my children's development. And since I sew them myself, I can afford to have more than one!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I think I must not have explained clearly. The problem isn't that the rings are hard, but that they physically prevent the baby's head from resting inside the sling in certain locations -- locations which can be used with a pouch sling.<br><br>
I love both types of slings, I just find them useful at different stages of my children's development. And since I sew them myself, I can afford to have more than one!</div>
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If there is a problem with where the rings being in the way of the baby's head I would be wondering if the sling is on correctly. Both my kids had reflux though so laying them down was torture. It was not a carry I did with ds past about a week. I usually did a carry like this <a href="http://kristinascottage.com/Instructions/SlingInstructions/NBUInstructions/NBUInstructions.html" target="_blank">upright in sling</a> and it kept my poor little guy happy. I expect this one is going to have reflux like it's siblings so I'm sure we will get lots of use out of an upright carry again.
 
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