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In short, there is no workbook/textbook math program that goes with the Montessori math curriculum.

I am not sure why the Montessori charter school, you mentioned, is using any math program other than the Montessori math.

Montessori math lessons are so thorough and go well beyond anything offered in a workbook or textbook.

You have to do what you think is best for your daughter. There so much more to Montessori than just the math. What are you looking for or wanting for her?

A little more info: If your daughter started at around age 3 here is a brief list of some math lessons she should have in her last year and a half in primary:

Golden Bead Work and Decimal Cards- to get a good understanding of the Decimal System (units, tens, hundreds, thousands)

Introduction to all 4 operations using the above materials.

Linear Counting and Skip Counting with the chains

Stamp Game: solving equations using all 4 operations.

Memorization work. (Only when children have a good understanding the concepts of addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division should they begin memorizing math facts. The sooner math facts are memorized, the better.)

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I am not sure why the Montessori charter uses Harcourt Math.

What I'm looking for and wanting for her is a Montessori education, but I am not sure if we can afford an AMI school for her. Plus, the closest AMI school is waaayyyy too far of a commute. She started a school that has AMS trained teachers in Feb. '08 when she was 3 years 3 months and we *LOVE*

Since she just turned 4, she hasn't started any of those math lessons you have mentioned that I am aware of. I am assuming that she will start on those between now and the summer. Actually, I think most of those are taught in their kindy program. Her classroom still has works like the teen and ten board, the hundred board, the short bead stairs, sandpaper numbers, red and number rods, spindle box, the intro to decimal quantity box, binomial and trinomial cubes, etc. They may have some of the more advanced math jobs in her class (I'll have to take notice on that) because they do have some 5 and 5 1/2 year old kids in her class. I think their kindy students are 4-6 year olds.

She will be a young kindergarten student since the age cutoff here is Dec. 2. She will be starting kindy at 4 (they start in August) and turning 5 in November. The other alternative would be to wait until she is 5 turning 6 to put her in kindy, but I honestly think that she will be so far advanced for public or charter kindy at 6 that doing that would be a horrible idea.

Montessori did indeed design a very comprehensive and thorough Math progression. The materials begin with very concrete representations of the quantity (number rods and sandpaper numbers) and flows through numbers from 0 to 10 first. Once the child is ready, we begin lessons with teens and tens as well as work with the Gold Beads. All this while the child is working with a physical representation of the number. Montessori called this whole process is the "Passage to Abstraction" which begins with the first materials around the age of 4 and continues through a series of increasingly more abstract representation of quantity. The stamp game, snake game, finger charts and bead frames are all Montessori Math materials as well as the fraction circles. This is for Primary.

BCFD - you would be surprised how much a child can get out of having the 5/6 year in the Children's House, especially with the math materials. There are actually quite a few advanced lessons that few children ever get to.

Hey Babybeemama! I wonder if you could expound on how the passage to abstraction occurs in the elementary classsroom? Also, did Montessori have a term for the elem. as she did for "Casa dei Bambini"? I also have AMI Primary (OMTI) and live in Ohio! My dd told me that at her class, she works with finger charts or that she uses her fingers (to count)- I know sometimes she used stamp game but I don't think she uses the bead frame. I thought she would be mostly using bead frame at this point. They also do time tests for memorization of math facts. Thanks for your input!

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I know how important it is for dd to finish out her 5/6 year in Montessori, so at this point I might keep her in her school (that is highly dedicated to the Montessori method).

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This isn't totally true. The Absorbent Mind" is a wonderful thing and a lot of math can be done in the primary classroom. Most of the Kindergarten students I had did do all 4 operations with the Stamp Game and were well on their way to memorizing + and - facts.

(Very brief but incomplete answer) Just like in primary there are many concrete/sensorial lessons and it is important to give the children many opportunities to explore with the materials before going on to written work. (Some trainers will even go as far as to say written work should not be required.) I'll write in more detail with an example when I have time...

I believe it is just elementary. In fact as far as a know there is no mention of Lower Elementary and Upper Elementary which is why some believe the classroom should be all 6 grades together!

I am an OMTI graduate as well! I was also lucky enough to take my elementary training in Bergamo.

I have heard that the elementary is a wonderful experience with the full 6 year age span!

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There is a great post here on MDC re Math programs. You might enjoy reading that (I did!
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I remember using the stamp game to figure out square roots of 4 digit numbers. I think that was about 3rd grade??

I used many of the materials in the 3-6 classroom and used them to teach elementary concepts on the rare occasion that a child is ready for it in his or her kindergarten year. Square roots of smaller numbers has been a favorite activity (then matching seeing the connection to the bead cabinet).

In 9-12, I remember getting into negative numbers and algebra type problems. Maybe I got into it earlier, but I remember some of the materials in the 9-12 classroom for it. I remember a lot of my math being done in the science expiriments we did.

I'll look around this school for the elementary math albums and see what they're like sometime when I have more time.

Originally Posted by BCFD There is a great post here on MDC re Math programs. You might enjoy reading that (I did! |

Matt or Lilliana, or babybeemama, do you think that it is accurate in teaching math in the M way? If I do end up homeschooling ds after K, this would be a great option if it is. (Although reading about all the other options out there has left my head spinning a little!

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I can't seem to find anything about "Unified Math". I'd really love to find a comparison chart or something that really spells out the difference between public school system math (Saxon, Singapore, etc.)

Have you gone on the tour of the M Charter school yet? I'm curious to find out their explanations for using Harcourt Math as opposed to (or maybe in conjuction with) "montessori math".

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Originally Posted by tbone What do you all think of Shiller Math? http://www.shillermath.com/sm/home.php?src=index.htm |

It's certainly not Montessori, but might be a decent program if you're looking to homeschool. I've seen a lot worse.

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Posted it on another forum and got the answer. I'm just going to copy and paste that response.

"Dear Matt, Instead of separating out the three areas of math,(

arithmetic, algebra and geometry), and teaching them at different ages

because "math is so difficult" , children are exposed to the basic elements

of a single discipline,( mathematics) all along the way. The tremendous

role of the sensorial work is very apparent in teaching math as a whole

discipline. While the child is learning to put quantity and symbols

together, the child is examining the geometric cabinet, constructive

triangles, or the pink tower, or the binomial cube, etc. Math is treated

as a language to explain/explore math events, so just as language and

writing are a unified discipline to explain/explore imagination and

abstraction, so is math. Does that make sense? It is 4:45 am here in

Virginia, and I may be thinking well, but not writing well.."

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Matt, that makes TOTAL sense!! Thank you so much for asking him to explain.
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Wonderful explanation! Thank you!!!!

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