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Hello everyone. My DS (just turned 5) has SPD as well as generalized anxiety and some OCD issues. We've been waiting for appointments, evals, etc. since last November (and have gotten quite a few run arounds) and now just finally have been moving forward. DS started OT last week for his sensory processing issues. We'll be working on anxiety/OCD issues with a therapist recommended by our OT center.<br><br>
Anyway, my question is for those who are doing the Feingold diet and are pleased with the results, etc. We have always been "healthy" as far as food choices - never any artifical colors, flavors, or (we thought) preservatives (to the best of our knowledge on the last one). DS and I are vegetarian and I often try to feed him organic produce (but not always). A lot of his behavior stems from his SPD I'm sure, but DS definitely seems to have some food intolerances - it's just trying to determine what they are as it is so rare that he isn't, ahem, shall we say, a bit agitated. Most days it seems that I'm just "putting out fires" and trying to keep the sensory input as low as possible whenever possible. It's getting worse and worse though.<br><br>
I already tried GF/CF and saw little or no improvement and also then felt fearful that I was loading him up on soy and corn. I have already eliminated what is obviously a culprit - ie: orange juice, dried fruits, tomato, etc. Again, we shop 90% at Whole Foods, and I'm careful that DS doesn't get processed junk.<br><br>
We went ahead and joined Feingold last Friday and are awaiting our materials, but my big question is this: since we were practically eating according to the Feingold guidelines anyway, will I really see any improvement with DS? Or will we be the unfortunate 30% who don't see many results? Also, since DS was eating tomatos, oranges, etc. since he was about 15/16 months, why would his behavior be so much worse now (esp. in the past year) if these were always "problem" foods for him?<br><br>
I'm really crossing my fingers on this one as DS is gnawing his shirt quite a bit and otherwise matches much of the profile/symptom info mentioned on their website.<br><br>
Anyone have information they care to share? I'd really appreciate it - things are so challenging these past few months I feel like I'm barely holding on. TIA!
 

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We were on FG and I DEFINITELY saw improvements. Even when we were on it for a long time, if I let Max have some tomatoes or oranges (high sal foods) it caused him problems and his behavior would worsen. Once I took those foods out, he got better.<br><br>
His quirks and various traits were still there, but he seemed less anxious and jumpy.
 

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FG isn't just eliminating the ickies like dye and preservatives. You also eliminate a whole group of foods that he is probably eating right now. Apples, tomatoes, grapes, strawberries, etc etc. You may find that he can tolerate some of the salicytic foods but not others and doing the elimination part and reintroducing them slowly will be the only way to know for sure.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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Apples in any form are a huge trigger for my son. Had ee not tried Feingold i'd have never figured that one out. The foods you mentioned could be causing a problem now because of a build-up in his system. I am posting from my cell phone right now but if you want I can come back later and give you the url for a great FG Yahoo group.
 

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This may be the group Melissa's thinking of:<br><a href="http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feingold-Program4us/" target="_blank">http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...ld-Program4us/</a>
 

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We did Feingold for a while but then my parents and dh's parents were ruining it for us. So now we are starting clean again. The grandparents dont get it or just dont care, or dont believe that it works. they all see me as this rigid stuck up parent who wont let her kids enjoy candy. So we are not spending time at grandparents as much as we were. I mean my mom was trying, she was buying organic and stuff, but then there were still nutella and ice pops in the freezer that they'd have. her idea of breakfast for them is white bread with nutella.<br><br>
I see a DRASTIC improvement with my son when we eat healthier. He doesnt eat many sal foods so thats not too much of an issue, but we try to read labels and watch. We never subscribed to FG, but we had the list from a friend on what has the salicylates (sp?) and we knew what had dyes and preservatives and additives, and we definitely know about what brands have no EDTA and stuff like that. Mostly we make stuff from scratch. but we are not perfect. I feel as long as they dont eat over grandmas then they should be ok. The last few days have been better for us in combination of using the advice in the book Explosive Child. We have all calmed down better now since my MIL moved out (that was a source of stress for us and we got into bad eating habits at times because MIL bought junk and the kids tried to eat it...it was hard i bought my organic stuff and had a special shelf for her, but she fed her stuff to the kids anyway) and now we can really focus on each other and what we all need. But i do believe that diet plays a huge role in our mental wellbeing.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">DS and I are vegetarian and I often try to feed him organic produce (but not always).<br><br>
Also, since DS was eating tomatos, oranges, etc. since he was about 15/16 months, why would his behavior be so much worse now (esp. in the past year) if these were always "problem" foods for him?<br><br>
I'm really crossing my fingers on this one as DS is gnawing his shirt quite a bit and otherwise matches much of the profile/symptom info mentioned on their website.<br></div>
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We have to avoid high fructose corn syrup also. And ds can eat organic corn, but not generic corn. I believe it is due to the modified proteins.<br><br>
Exposure to food intolerances over time have the effect of causing *increased* reactions, since the body strengthens it's "defense" mechanism" against them. So, you are apt to see more reactions than previously. Classical homeopathy has helped to ameliorate this for ds.<br><br>
You might be seeing a zinc deficiency also. The shirt chewing is a symptom. And many ASD kids are low in zinc, high in copper levels.<br><a href="http://www.danasview.net/supps.htm" target="_blank">http://www.danasview.net/supps.htm</a><br><br>
Salicylate level exposure is cumulative. So quantity and frequency of exposure may alter the reactions over time. But, you might not be avoiding enough to ever eliminate the reactions.<br><br>
BHT and EDTA are sooo commonly used as preservatives. I understand that BHT is in most boxed foods. It is kinda hard to avoid.<br><br>
We have more sensory seeking behaviors with dairy. It is REALLY hard to avoid.<br><br>
With the vegetarian diet, you might need to get more protein to keep an even level blood sugar. Carbs will have higher glycemic indexes and cause insulin rushes and crashing blood sugars. <b>Protein in the morning improves our day totally!!</b> If we start with carbs, the whole day is carb seeking. If we start with protein, the whole world is happier at our house.<br><br>
We found that we had many more issues than Feingold addresses. Dairy, HFCS, in addition to gluten, corn and soy are all culprits here. You might check out the "Healing the Gut" threads. <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=434071" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=434071</a><br><br><br><br>
HTH, Pat
 

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Why would FG work when you're already eating healthy? Because there can be hidden ingredients in packaged foods. Lots of kids react to the preservatives BHT, BHA, and TBHQ and they can be hard to find on the labels, or even not on the labels at all if the amount is small enough (though it could still be enough for reactions.)
 
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