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Well, alot of mainstream venues state well their dh is not circ but we are circing their son because of their dh problems(who is to afraid to go into the circ himself) ?

What kind of problems could their dh have but not 'bad enough for him to 'get rid of his foreskin' ? As in not choosing to get 'rid' of it if he is dealing with issues or did deal with issues it .

Could we possibly write a list of possiblity like problems with foreskin that are easily fixed 'alternatively ' even refering intimacy problem ways ?

Like tearing during 'sex' or gliding motion not all the way 'gliding' because still a bit of foreskin attached to the glans or a too short frenulm ?

If some girls are predjudice of how the foreskin is so if they fall in love with a guy with a foreskin how could their intimacy level be if they never saw each other naked til they said I love you ?

So then what if it was a later circ story of their dh stating I remember it and belief of no memory of infancy with no pain belief in infancy ?

Or what if a doctor tells a intact man and his wife that circ is better because it's more in the society now ?

So how could we focus on not having the intact dad not be brainwashed into circing his infant thinking he would be better off than his dad who had some issues with his foreskin ?

What about changing the stuff about how a 'gal feels about foreskin' if she is taught to believe it's ugly, icky or gross ?

Can anyone be able to change my title to mainstream venues ?

Had to edited it sounded as if I was 'referring' to my dh when I don't even have a dh .
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Hi MommytoB,

Unfortunately I cannot answer some of your questions with real knowledge because I live in England where secular RIC is non-existent. Other questions I can.


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Well, alot of mainstream boards state well my dh is not circ but we are circing him because of my dh problems(who is to afraid to go into the circ himself) ?

What kind of problems could a dh have but not 'bad enough for him to 'get rid of his foreskin' ?
Very few. The only such problem that comes to mind is the half-chance he might get it caught in his zipper if he was in a great hurry or just careless! Other than that, perhaps a slight itch that a discrete scratch will alleviate - though he is far more likely to suffer from an itchy scrotum from time to time!

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Could we possibly write a list of possiblity like problems with foreskin that are easily fixed 'alternatively ' even refering intimacy problem ways ?
I can think of only one: a phimotic condition where the opening to the foreskin won't stretch sufficiently to allow easy retraction over the glans. This is rare and only a 'problem' if he is uncomfortable with the condition. It can be lessened with a topical steroid cream and/or stretching or a dorsal slit (but the latter is an unattractive alternative). If he is happy to live with it, it won't harm him.

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Like tearing during 'sex' or gliding motion not all the way 'gliding' because still a bit of foreskin attached to the glans or a too short frenulm ?
A foreskin won't tear during normal sexual intercourse; it's as tough as old boots! The gliding motion (i.e. the movement of the foreskin: retract-replace with each thrust) is only compromised if acquired phimosis exists to the extent that the foreskin will not retract at all. This is VERY rare. Skin bridges occur on a circumcised penises, not intact ones. A short frenulum is unlikely to affect the gliding motion. What it may do, however, is skew the glans and bend the penis downwards or to one side. Circumcision does not necessarily involve removal of the frenulum, by the way.

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If some girls are predjudice of how the foreskin is so if they fall in love with a guy with a foreskin how could their intimacy level be if they never saw each other naked til they said I love you ?
This I can't answer because most girls here are more likely to find a circumcised penis offensive. All I can say is if they love each other enough, she will overcome her intial reaction and hopefully discover what a delight it is to experience a normal penis.


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So then what if it was a later circ story of I remember it and belief of no memory of infancy with no pain belief in infancy ?
We don't remember the trauma of birth because nature, in its wisdom, gave us that blessing. Once we are exposed to the world, I venture to suggest that our conscious memory begins. If we could talk from birth, could we recall each eventful minute? I believe so. Time dims our conscious memories, but the events remain subconciously for a lifetime.

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Or what if a doctor tells a intact man and his wife that circ is better because it's more in the society now ?
Frankly, I would suggest the man and his wife tell the doctor to "get a life!"

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So how could we focus on not having the intact dad not be brainwashed into circing his infant thinking he would be better off than his dad who had some issues with his foreskin ?
By asking the intact dad to understand that the 'issues' were non-issues; that his infant son will live as healthily and happily with his foreskin as 85% of the rest of the world's males already do! By reminding him that overall RIC rates in the USA are nearing 50-50 now - and dropping year by year. By telling him to think of his own sex life and how much pleasure his own foreskin has given him. Would he seriously want to deprive his son of that...?

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What about changing the stuff about how a 'gal feels about foreskin' if she is taught to believe it's ugly, icky or gross ?
As each year passes, fewer and fewer girls in the USA will be brought up thinking that way. A foreskin is the icing on a perfectly baked but plain cake!

In essence, see all my answers above!

Christopher
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I know a woman that said they circ'd their son because her dh was teased so much in highschool about being intact and she never wanted her son to feel like that. I think the way she put it was "I can't imagine going through life having my genitals ridiculed, so I just left the decision up to him." Yet, her dh never got circ'd. I don't get it.
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I know a woman that said they circ'd their son because her dh was teased so much in highschool about being intact and she never wanted her son to feel like that. I think the way she put it was "I can't imagine going through life having my genitals ridiculed, so I just left the decision up to him." Yet, her dh never got circ'd. I don't get it.
The tragedy (not too strong a word, I think) of growing up in a culture of myth and misinformation. I would add two further observations, though...

1. This 'locker room' thing has been refuted several times. I have no doubt that at a few schools it happens, but posts from intact American men on this board have explicitly told of no ridicule in their schooldays.

2. I saw my first and only real-life circumcised penis at my boarding school. (The son of an American serviceman posted here.) I was as shocked and incredulous as my friends at the time. BUT - and this is my point - we were filled with sympathy for him. Ridicule was the last thing on our minds. The odd bully-minded kid sniggered - until they realised what we thought of them. I must hasten to add that I'm not suggesting American youngsters would sympathise with an intact boy (though perhaps some might, out of ignorance?). I simply want to point out that even in the universal climate of schoolboy/girl teasing, when youngsters are confronted with something so shockingly different, teasing can turn to awe and compassionate indifference.

Christopher
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Well, alot of mainstream venues state well my dh is not circ but we are circing him because of my dh problems(who is to afraid to go into the circ himself) ?

What kind of problems could a dh have but not 'bad enough for him to 'get rid of his foreskin' ? Could we possibly write a list of possiblity like problems with foreskin that are easily fixed 'alternatively ' even refering intimacy problem ways ?

Like tearing during 'sex' or gliding motion not all the way 'gliding' because still a bit of foreskin attached to the glans or a too short frenulm ?
If he is having tearing or painfull retraction due to a short frenulum he could do stretching and if that didnt work then he could have a simpl surgery that would make the frenulum longer it is a zig zag cut that allowes for more mobility without damaging the nerves and how the frenulum works. If he is having trouble with adhesions that havnt released they can be releases sometimes with stretching and possible a steriod cream, but if not then he could have a very simple snip of the adhesions.

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So then what if it was a later circ story of I remember it and belief of no memory of infancy with no pain belief in infancy ?
I beleive that everything that ever happens to use is stored in the brain somewere even if we cant remember it our subconcious can and does.

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Or what if a doctor tells a intact man and his wife that circ is better because it's more in the society now ?
I would point them to the statistics site that shows the rates of circ here in the USA now and world wide. I have those if you are interested.

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So how could we focus on not having the intact dad not be brainwashed into circing his infant thinking he would be better off than his dad who had some issues with his foreskin ?
That may take time and major education of the public.

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What about changing the stuff about how a 'gal feels about foreskin' if she is taught to believe it's ugly, icky or gross ?
That also falls under educating them. Getting the word out early.
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