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Or just ambulance chasing lawyers taking advantage of girls who are suffering from mental illness? http://yournewswire.com/hpv-vaccine-users-sue-government-in-japan-in-landmark-case/

Saitama Prefecture resident Nanami Sakai, who plans to be one of the plaintiffs, was one of four to attend the news conference. The 21-year-old, who was given Cervarix twice in 2011, said she did not receive information about the pros and cons of the vaccine before receiving the injections.
“I’d like to know why I was left scarred by the vaccine, why I was not able to receive proper treatment right away and why my situation was not adequately conveyed to the state,” Sakai said.
Sitting in a wheelchair, Sakai said she has numbness in the right side of her body, back and around her chest.
Yui Taniguchi, who suffers from a number of symptoms including severe headaches and occasional loss of vision, said she decided to join the suit in order to show that there are many people whose lives have been turned upside-down by the vaccines’ side effects.
“I felt I needed to speak out so that we won’t see another such victim in the future,” Taniguchi, a 17-year-old high school student from Nara Prefecture, said at the news conference.
 
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The argument from some doctors to bring back the recommendation for the HPV vaccine in Japan http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/865887

Coauthors Yutaka Ueda and Tadashi Kimura received lecture fees from GlaxoSmithKline/Japan Vaccine (the manufacturer of the HPV vaccine Cervarix). Dr Ueda also received a lecture fee, research fund, and consultation fee from Merck Sharp & Dohme (the manufacturer of the HPV vaccine Gardasil) and research funding from the Japan Agency for Medical Research and Development. The other authors have disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
 

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More on the lawsuit which ended up with 64 girls. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...s-from-cervical-cancer-vaccines/#.V42d-KLRjh5

Noting that the cervical cancer vaccines have caused nerve disorders and other problems due to the excessive immune reactions they caused, the lawyers claimed that the government’s approval of the ineffective vaccines was illegal. The drugmakers bear product liability, they added.
There are definitely some vaccine defenders in Japan, speaking up to push for the return of the vaccine.

I wonder where this battle will end up?
 
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The second section of this article reviews some of the worrisome signals coming out of VAERS on the HPV vaccines. Certainly, VAERS isn't useful when you look ONLY at individual cases, but the government is supposed to be monitoring it for patterns. You know, when particular conditions increase after particular vaccines. https://www.sott.net/article/271842...ther-countries-move-to-take-protective-action

HPV Vaccines and ADEM

According to the NIH, National Institute of Health, acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) is characterized by a brief but widespread attack of inflammation in the brain and spinal cord that damages myelin - the protective covering of nerve fibers. ADEM often follows viral or bacterial infections, or less often, vaccination for measles, mumps, or rubella.

In other words, ADEM is a known side effect of some vaccines. It is listed as a rare disease in both the United States and Europe. Examine the following chart showing the VAERS reports of ADEM after all vaccines used in the United States each year from May 1997 through May 2013.


One would think an 8,100% average per anum increase in reports of this rare condition after the introduction of HPV vaccines would be a huge red flag. Apparently, that is not the case for Dr. Schuchat despite the fact that ADEM is a known adverse effect of some vaccines.
 
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The second section of this article reviews some of the worrisome signals coming out of VAERS on the HPV vaccines. Certainly, VAERS isn't useful when you look ONLY at individual cases, but the government is supposed to be monitoring it for patterns. You know, when particular conditions increase after particular vaccines. https://www.sott.net/article/271842...ther-countries-move-to-take-protective-action
Well, they've decided, based mostly on "public sentiment" as expressed on skeptic and pro vaccine blogs, that the VAERS data is unreliable.

Their system, of course, their artificially restricted process for reporting, their "second base.", but they've decided it doesn't contain useful information.
 

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Well, they've decided, based mostly on "public sentiment" as expressed on skeptic and pro vaccine blogs, that the VAERS data is unreliable.

Their system, of course, their artificially restricted process for reporting, their "second base.", but they've decided it doesn't contain useful information.
What is that phrase about "echo chambers"?
 
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https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/index
When reviewing data from VAERS, please keep in mind the following limitations:
VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected, but require a report to be filed to VAERS. VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.
"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. Physicians and patients understand that minor side effects of vaccinations often include this kind of discomfort, as well as low fevers. On the other hand, more serious and unexpected medical events are probably more likely to be reported than minor ones, especially when they occur soon after vaccination, even if they may be coincidental and related to other causes.
A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.
DISCLAIMER: Please note that VAERS staff follow-up on all serious and other selected adverse event reports to obtain additional medical, laboratory, and/or autopsy records to help understand the concern raised. However, in general coding terms in VAERS do not change based on the information received during the follow-up process. VAERS data should be used with caution as numbers and conditions do not reflect data collected during follow-up. Note that the inclusion of events in VAERS data does not imply causality.
It doesn't exactly explain why a significant increase in certain problems once Gardasil started to be used should be totally ignored, does it?

Some reports could be coincidental, but you would need to research to find out, right?
 
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And in related news... China has approved an HPV vaccine after a 6-year trial. http://www.sixthtone.com/news/china-approves-first-hpv-vaccine

Pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) announced on Monday that their HPV vaccine Cervarix has been approved by the China Food and Drug Administration (CFDA) for use in China. The vaccine will be available on the Chinese market starting next year.

Current regulations require manufacturers of vaccines to conduct clinical trials in China before they can be granted a license there. Sometimes the criteria for approval in China can be stricter than what the WHO requires. Chinese media reported in 2014 that Merck had given their clinical trial data to the CFDA for review by 2013, and that GSK had finished their clinical trials by 2013. Merck and GSK both conducted large-scale trials in other Asian countries from 2002 to 2005, but the Chinese government did not accept those results.

According to GSK, the company conducted a clinical trial in China involving over 6,000 subjects who were followed for up to six years before the vaccine was approved by the CFDA.

A new combined analysis of 7 phase III clinical trials has also found the HPV vaccine safe: http://pediatrics.aappublications.o...000&nfstatusdescription=ERROR:+No+local+token
 

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And in related news thousands of teens and their parents continue to report reactions to HPV vaccines.

Alas, every last one of these people are delusional...because China did a clinical trial. And because someone took a pile of trials, all conducted by either pharma or governments in bed with pharma, and mixed them into one article, demonstrating that it is possible to take a lot of bad studies and make a really big bad study.

Deeply impressed! >:D
 

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A recent paper on the HPV vaccine [J Law Med Ethics 2012 Fall; 40(3): 673-81] found that clinical trials and marketing tactics by the HPV vaccine manufacturer may not be trustworthy. Here is a quote from the paper: “The poor design of existing vaccine safety and efficacy trials may be reflective of the fact that in the past two decades the pharmaceutical industry has gained unprecedented control over the evaluation of its own products.”
 

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Link to pubmed for the article cited in the previous post http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23061593

and here is the abstract.

Abstract

There are not many public health issues where views are as extremely polarized as those concerning vaccines, and Merck's HPV vaccine Gardasil is a case in point. Ever since gaining the FDA's approval in 2006, Merck has been heavily criticized for their overly aggressive marketing strategies and lobbying campaigns aimed at promoting Gardasil as a mandatory vaccine. Subsequently, questions have been raised as to whether it was appropriate for vaccine manufacturers to partake in public health policies when their conflicts of interests are so obvious. Some of their advertising campaign slogans, such as "cervical cancer kills x women per year" and "your daughter could become one less life affected by cervical cancer," seemed more designed to promote fear rather than evidence-based decision making about the potential benefits of the vaccine. Although, conflicts of interests do not necessarily mean that the product itself is faulty, marketing claims should be carefully examined against factual science data. Currently Gardasil vaccination is strongly recommended by the U.S. and other health authorities while public concerns about safety and efficacy of the vaccine appear to be increasing. This discrepancy leads to some important questions that need to be resolved. The current review examines key issues of this debate in light of currently available research evidence.
 

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David Healy looking at some of the arguments around HPV vaccines. https://davidhealy.org/post-truth-rumorology/

Once upon a time it was public health doctors who decided what vaccines became part of national vaccination schedules. In Japan and elsewhere the introduction of HPV vaccines to the vaccination program was engineered by the makers of vaccines. Vaccination is a business as much as or even rather than a matter of public health. See HERE.
When concerns appeared in Japan and the government suspended the heavy promotion of the vaccine it triggered an international response with the Center for Strategic International Studies, a body set up in the Cold War “dedicated to finding ways to sustain American prominence and prosperity as a force for good in the world”, publishing a report on HPV Vaccination in Japan authored by Heidi Larson and others. HL and colleagues are based in the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, one of the institutions that spawned AllTrials – somewhere with close links to Sense about Science.
You’d never guess from this document that the HPV vaccine was adopted in most countries after intense corporate lobbying.
And here I thought it was grass-roots demand from regular people!
 

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You’d never guess from this document that the HPV vaccine was adopted in most countries after intense corporate lobbying.
I thought this statement from David Healy (see link in previous post) was worth highlighting again.

No grassroots demand for these vaccines in the US or worldwide. It is being shoved into pre-teens and teens worldwide because a couple of giant corporations want their profits. :crying:
 
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