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<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26623-2004Dec1.html" target="_blank">Some Abstinence Programs Mislead Teens, Report Says</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Many American youngsters participating in federally funded abstinence-only programs have been taught over the past three years that abortion can lead to sterility and suicide, that half the gay male teenagers in the United States have tested positive for the AIDS virus, and that touching a person's genitals "can result in pregnancy," a congressional staff analysis has found.</td>
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Actually 1 and 3 are true, in the extreme (rare but happens/can happen). I don't know about number two. I doubt half the gay male teens have been tested. I suppose it possible that 1/2 those tested are positive.
 

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I read somewhere else that the anatomy lessons in those classes conspicuously leave out the clitoris.<br><br>
Another reason to homeschool...
 

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I wish they'd teach that half the straight male teens tested are HIV-Positive.<br><br>
But, abstinence education isn't about keeping people safe. It's about pushing a religious agenda.<br><br>
I am definitely homeschooling! I will not have my child brainwashed by bigots!<br><br>
I've attempted suicide. I think I'll tell everyone that one of my attempts was because I was forced to attend church one Easter. Then it will be published that church attendence leads to suicide!<br><br>
Illegal abortions can lead to sterility and death. Will the abstinence educators tell the students that criminalizing abortion leads to sterility and death?<br><br>
Pregnancy and childbirth lead to sterility and death much more frequently than abortion does.<br>
And my first pregnancy nearly led me to suicide!<br><br>
If they're going to talk about abortion that way, they should give the kids ALL the info! Pregnancy, Childbirth, Abortions, and Not Having Access To Abortions can all lead to suicide, sterility, and death! DON'T HAVE SEX!!!
 

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I wonder what those classes teach about masturbation? I would think a class encouraging abstinence would be extolling the virtures of self-love: no diseases (unless you never wash your hands, or something), no risk of pregnancy (as long as it's only your own body involved!), healthy outlet for sexual feelings, opportunity for bodily knowledge...<br><br>
But I have a feeling the topic is not covered. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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Here is what I never understood about the sex ed problem. Why aren't we teaching sex ed like we teach everything else about health, home ec, etc. We teach our children information that they can take with them into their adult lives. Once our kids leave highschool and go on to college or get married they need to know this stuff. Doctors are notoriously bad nowadays at taking the time to teach women this stuff. Why can't we teach them information that they might need to know in their married lives? A husband and wife most likely will want to understand the woman's fertility and what they can do to avoid pregnancy or hurry it up. Why is it always looked at as "right now"?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I wonder what those classes teach about masturbation?</div>
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You're right-it's not covered.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shake.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shake"><br>
What's the matter with you Greaseball? I'm SHOCKED!<br><br>
I thought I knew you well enough to know that masturbation is a dirty sin, and that sexual pleasure is only a bonus (or equally shameful, depending on how puritanical you get) to the PROCREATIVE and SUBMISSIVE "qualities" of sexual intercourse-with your husband only of course!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/disappointed.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="disappointed"><br><br>
It's one of those things that makes sense to us (if you don't "let" them have sex with someone else, at least let em have it with themselves) but then you think about the skeletal framework of this agenda, which as lotus mentioned is usually religious.<br><br>
Sucks, don't it?<br><br>
Kelly (who had NO trouble finding her parts without the help of a book, thank goodness!)
 

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This sucks. I'm so glad that I do this sex ed myself for the kids. They know everything they need to know for their age. I'll give them the heavy old HIVAids talk in Jr. High once they start acting interested in the opposite sex. Poor other kids. What a shame.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/oops.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="oops">T<br>
Can anyone recommend a book that teaches kids (maybe jr high age and up) about sex, masturbation, abortion and contraception, pregnancy and childbirth, AIDS and other diseases, abuse/rape, homosexuality, etc etc etc, from a sicko liberal POV, of course? :LOL Our Bodies, Ourselves is good, but written for older people, and the What's Happening to my Body books are good too, but I don't think they talk enough about the "scary stuff."<br><br>
I think kids should have good reading material to counteract whatever they are learning in school, because I'm sure the private-school kids aren't getting such a great sex education either. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Here it is:<br><br><a href="http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/changing.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/changing.htm</a><br><br>
From the description:<br><br>
Based on quotes and stories from hundreds of teenagers and Bell's meticulous research, <b>Changing Bodies, Changing Lives</b> thoughtfully answers questions and concerns teenagers confront today, including:<br><br>
*Changes brought on by puberty<br>
*Eating disorders and body image<br>
*Mental health care<br>
*Teen pregnancy<br>
*STDs and how to avoid them<br>
*Positive role modeling<br>
*Preventative health care<br>
*Drug and alcohol abuse<br>
*Birth control and safer sex<br>
*Sexuality<br>
*Violence and Abuse
 

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It's Perfectly Normal by Robie H. Harris is a good book for this topic. There's another by the same guy specifically about where babies come from, for younger kids.
 

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<span style="text-decoration:underline;">Deal With It: A Whole New Approach to Your Body, Brain and Life as a Gurl</span> by Esther Drill, Heather McDonald, and Rebecca Odes (the founders of gurl.com). I found this book used, and it's great. Now I just need the equivalent for boys!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I read somewhere else that the anatomy lessons in those classes conspicuously leave out the clitoris.<br><br>
Another reason to homeschool...</div>
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And if they're anything like my high school they only show a circumcized penis in the textbooks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> I never knew what a foreskin was or looked like until I was pregnant with ds. I always thought it was just a flap of skin covering the hole in the glans. (Now that I think about it, I don't remember any sex ed at my school whatsoever)
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/oops.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="oops">T<br>
Can anyone recommend a book that teaches kids (maybe jr high age and up) about sex, masturbation, abortion and contraception, pregnancy and childbirth, AIDS and other diseases, abuse/rape, homosexuality, etc etc etc, from a sicko liberal POV, of course? :LOL Our Bodies, Ourselves is good, but written for older people, and the What's Happening to my Body books are good too, but I don't think they talk enough about the "scary stuff."<br><br>
I think kids should have good reading material to counteract whatever they are learning in school, because I'm sure the private-school kids aren't getting such a great sex education either. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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This site is made by Planned Parenthood and seems pretty good. I haven't read all of the info there. <a href="http://www.teenwire.com/" target="_blank">http://www.teenwire.com/</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Actually 1 and 3 are true, in the extreme (rare but happens/can happen). I don't know about number two. I doubt half the gay male teens have been tested. I suppose it possible that 1/2 those tested are positive.</div>
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can you explain this to me please? How are you supposed to get pregnant just by touching someone's genitals?
 

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The theory is that if you touch a man who has ejaculated, and then touch yourself, sperm could travel through if you have fertile mucous. Or if a man touches himself and then you.<br><br>
Or, as my mother explained, this could even happen between two women if one of them has just come from being with her boyfriend.<br><br>
I wonder how many times either of these scenarios has actually happened? I have heard of people getting pregnant from ejaculation just outside the vagina.
 
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