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Friday DH, DS, and I drove down to Summertown TN for a meeting with the Farm Midwives. We met with Pamela and were hoping they would take me for a VBAC. After a nearly 5 hour drive (painful with a 2 yr old) we arrived and found it very cozy. We all got a good vibe infact DS even pooped there (he doesn't poop unless he is home or very comfortable somewhere) and waved good bye to Pamela which is a very rare thing too. She looked over my chart and we talked about my pregnancy, birth, c-section. She said they would take me but she wanted me on a diet. I'm heavy so I knew this would come up. I did, however, feel a little like she thought I sat on the couch and ate chips all day. She suggested I go take a walk every now and then LOL. I live on a farm and I walk often so I felt a little put off by that. The diet is a bit crazy IMO. I'm nursing a 2 yr old and pregnant and she wants me to eat what amounts to about 1700 calories a day. On the whole I was very happy with the meeting and we are really psyched. We have to get together 4000 dollars for the birth which will be VERY hard for us to do and we hope that our insurance will help. Just thought I would update <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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wow that's exciting news! lol @ the pooping ~ DS is the same! hee hee<br>
i have no idea what 1700 calories a day looks like. my m/w has me following some canada food guide for nursing mothers fridge magnet...<br><br>
ouch! $4000?! i'm thanking my lucky stars we don't have to pay for healthcare here
 

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I am so happy for you. Ina May came to speak at the University in our town last year and it was so interesting. I totally hear you about the pooping too. I have a just turned 3 year-old that will not poop in any toilet, but feels fine with peeing in the potty.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Yay!! That's awesome!
 

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Far be it from me to dismiss the wisdom of the farm midwives (the holy grail of birth, am I right?)... but wow, I got some red flags from your post and I'm wondering if you didn't, too?<br><br>
Trust your gut!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Far be it from me to dismiss the wisdom of the farm midwives (the holy grail of birth, am I right?)... but wow, I got some red flags from your post and I'm wondering if you didn't, too?<br><br>
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ditto here. Lot's of red flags. 1700 calories for a pregnant nursing mom? Didn't she ask about your activities? Just because you are heavy doesn't mean you can't have a healthy pregnancy. That would be a really big problem for me.<br><br>
I'm sure there is a lot of great energy there that makes it feel like a wonderful place, just make sure it's the right place for you. 8 more months at 1700 calories and the words hanging over your head in your 6th month and you are STARVING! That, on top of money issues.<br><br>
I'm sure it will all work itself out though. Trust yourself every step of the way.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Far be it from me to dismiss the wisdom of the farm midwives (the holy grail of birth, am I right?)... but wow, I got some red flags from your post and I'm wondering if you didn't, too?<br><br>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: (But I might be biased -- I read Spiritual Midwifery, that's about the Farm, right? I actually got the vibe from the book that they didn't really trust birth too much -- more than Drs, sure, but still, there was a lot of interfering and telling mom what to do, etc. As opposed to supporting and suggesting.)<br><br>
But congrats! It sounds very neat.
 

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But here's the thing, ladies -- most places are VERY anti-VBAC (at least, all the places I've lived!) and I'd imagine The Farm is probably one of the few places where women can attemp VBACs safely. Even when I hear about docs at the hospital encouraging VBACs, it's usually still with a tone of "well, we can always cut you if you should labor for longer than 12 hours or something like that." Kwim?<br><br>
OTOH, I'd also investigate all of your options. I would not want to labor in a car for 5 hours.
 

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In my opinion, I don't think if I told her I felt that wasn't enough she would tell me to stick with the diet. In fact she gave me her home phone number to talk about any issues, including with the diet, that I have. I'm not doing the diet but following the basics like cutting out sugars and eating lots of veggies. I am reading "Ina May's Guide to Childbirth" right now and just came to the chapter on preeclampsia and how the Farm has a .01% instance because of the diet they suggest for their clients.<br><br>
I very seriously doubt I'll go into labor before 40 weeks. In fact all the women in my family go to 42 or beyond.<br><br>
It's true it is extremely hard to find people willing to do a VBAC especially out of a hospital. I know if I go to a hospital around here I will end up with a repeat section. I never did get the idea that they don't trust birth it is that they have to work against what our society is telling us about birth is the vibe I got. Not to be on your back, the screaming, the pushing when your told instead of when you feel.<br><br>
I like reading your post and thoughts on the matter. The thing is I think it is because I'm heavy that the majority of people have assumptions on what heavy people do/eat and that is where the diet is coming from. She didn't ask me about my activities but we did have an over 2 hour appointment talking about everything else LOL.<br><br>
The money is an issue for us but we are giving a call to the insurance to see if they might cover it. It would be in their best interest, it's a fraction of normal VBAC cost.
 

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good luck! from reading everyone's thoughts i get the impression the medical profession thinks a little (ok, a lot) differently about VBACs, etc than they do up here. i had no idea it was that hard to do a VBAC
 

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So would you be laboring in the car for 5 hours? You are a stronger woman than I...my birthing center is a half hour away and I am sighing about how far away it is! LOL!
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> i wondered that too. i was going to give birth (before we opted for home) at a hospital 45 min away, and that seemed much too far
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> i wondered that too. i was going to give birth (before we opted for home) at a hospital 45 min away, and that seemed much too far</div>
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We would be moving down there at 40 weeks to stay for the rest of my pregnancy. I could go into labor before 40 weeks but I'd be the first in my family to do so. I'll keep my fingers crossed. I hate the drive already not to mention in labor!
 

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Hmmm...with my VBAC I was only in labor for 4 hours total (Felt first contraction at around 1:30 am, DS was born a little after 5:15 am). If I'd had to drive 5 hours I would have given birth in the car.<br><br>
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Wow, the Farm! That's exciting! So the $4000 includes some lodging and food, then? That makes it seem more reasonable.<br><br>
It sounds like you're being rational about the diet. The types and balance of food are more important than the quantity.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Wow, the Farm! That's exciting! So the $4000 includes some lodging and food, then? That makes it seem more reasonable.<br><br>
It sounds like you're being rational about the diet. The types and balance of food are more important than the quantity.</div>
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That is one of my questions about the food. I'm not sure if we will buy our own groceries or not. That does include housing though for the two weeks. I'm writting my appeal letter to insurance tomorrow as soon as I find forsure that no other midwives are willing to a vbac in the area.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Friday DH, DS, and I drove down to Summertown TN for a meeting with the Farm Midwives. We met with Pamela and were hoping they would take me for a VBAC. After a nearly 5 hour drive (painful with a 2 yr old) we arrived and found it very cozy. We all got a good vibe infact DS even pooped there (he doesn't poop unless he is home or very comfortable somewhere) and waved good bye to Pamela which is a very rare thing too. She looked over my chart and we talked about my pregnancy, birth, c-section. She said they would take me but she wanted me on a diet. I'm heavy so I knew this would come up. I did, however, feel a little like she thought I sat on the couch and ate chips all day. She suggested I go take a walk every now and then LOL. I live on a farm and I walk often so I felt a little put off by that. The diet is a bit crazy IMO. I'm nursing a 2 yr old and pregnant and she wants me to eat what amounts to about 1700 calories a day. On the whole I was very happy with the meeting and we are really psyched. We have to get together 4000 dollars for the birth which will be VERY hard for us to do and we hope that our insurance will help. Just thought I would update <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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I've been thinking about this post. Can you share what the diet is? Thanks!
 
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