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<p>My DS was born healthy with no complications in a midwife-assisted birth center birth 21 mos ago. He was exclusively breast fed to 7 mos, primarily breast fed to 11 mos, and he initiated gradual full weaning by 18 mos. He's only had 2 DTaP vaccines...the first around 9 mos (with no observable reaction) and the second about 8 days ago.</p>
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<p>A small bump developed at the injection site on his arm after the shot and is still there (doesn't look too concerning), but 5-6 days later, a quarter-sized red, raised bump rash developed adjacent to the injection site, about 0.5 to 1 inch away. It grew to about 1.5 times its size by the next day and became one, raised, warm-to-the-touch, red spot. It has since decreased a bit in size but is still a bit warm and I noticed a second, dime sized patch yesterday, about 0.5 inches away from the larger patch. The spots are irregular in shape, meaning they do not have smooth round edges, like a hive might be. He also has a diaper rash that looks different to me from any previous rashes he's had there before; it's localized to kind of like a ring, right around the anus. He slept really well the first 4-5 days following the vax (I think he had been sleeping well for a few days prior to the shot), but around the time the rash developed he began taking a shorter nap and waking more frequently at night. Last night he was up every 30 minutes to an hour from 12am to 6am. He didn't seem to be running a fever, but he slept very fitfully. He has been more irritable over the past few days too, but it's unclear whether it's due to the poorer sleep (he was in an incredibly fabulous mood when he was sleeping 11 hours at night and taking a 3 hour nap mid-day) or related to these other problems. Our doc says she doubts it is related to the vax because the rash developed 5-6 days later. She gave us an oral antibiotic for what she deems to be a skin infection, perhaps caused by scratching at the injection site. But I honestly don't think DS has touched the injection site. It was bandaged for about 24 hours after the injection. He hasn't even shown any indication that the rash bothers him. And the rash is adjacent to the injection site. Needless to say, DH and I are reluctant to fill the prescription. I'm worried that my otherwise very healthy boy might need something to help his body process/fight whatever is causing this, but I'm not sure how to help him.</p>
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<p>I read in a previous post here that vaxs impact the GI system which might be causing the diaper rash. I assume baby probiotics will help with that. Any other suggestions as to what this might be, what might help, and / or similar stories would be much appreciated. Thanks and blessings!</p>
 

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<p>Contrary to some people's opinion here that unless a reaction is immediate, severe and obvious than it cannot possible be related to vaccines, I think it is entirely possible that what your LO is experiencing is a delayed reaction. I don't think there is any way to know 100% for sure, however the location of the rashes and the proximity to the shots (only a few days) seems suspicious.</p>
<p>The only other thing I would ask is that is he has had a change in diet recently?</p>
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<p>IMO probiotics are something that should be given anyway. I would take your child to a ND and see if they have any suggestions. I know our ND treats vaccine reactions quite frequently. There are a variety of natural and homeopathic things that are routinely used in alternative medicine to aid the body is processing toxins from vaccines. Hope your DS is back to his old self soon!</p>
 

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<p>While I could not possibly say whether your child's symptoms are related to vaccination, I nonetheless think it is reasonable to avoid giving antibiotics for a rash unless there is some reason to believe that they are necessary.  Did your doctor order a culture or anything? <br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Marnica</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1303621/adjacent-rash-diaper-rash-irritability-delayed-reaction#post_16328389"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>Contrary to some people's opinion here that unless a reaction is immediate, severe and obvious than it cannot possible be related to vaccines</p>
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<p><span><img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/lol.gif">  To whom are you attributing this opinion?</span>  I mean, even those of us who believe that the benefits of vaccines outweigh the risks aren't going to deny that most vaccine reactions are pretty mild and can be subtle. </p>
 

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<p>Im speaking in generalities of course. I have no 1 person in mind. I'm not saying that provax folks deny mild reactions - perhaps I phrased incorrectly. Most will acknowledge low grade fever, pain at injection site ect. I was speaking more about the proximity to the vaccinations. Seems most provax people do not seem to entertain the idea of delayed reactions - severe or otherwise.<br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>no5no5</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1303621/adjacent-rash-diaper-rash-irritability-delayed-reaction#post_16329152"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>While I could not possibly say whether your child's symptoms are related to vaccination, I nonetheless think it is reasonable to avoid giving antibiotics for a rash unless there is some reason to believe that they are necessary.  Did your doctor order a culture or anything? <br>
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<p><span><img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/lol.gif">  To whom are you attributing this opinion?</span>  I mean, even those of us who believe that the benefits of vaccines outweigh the risks aren't going to deny that most vaccine reactions are pretty mild and can be subtle. </p>
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<p>I would probably consult a dermatologist because lots of rashes look alike & you can't always tell by just looking at it - I heard of a case recently where the person was initially diagnosed with skin infection & it wasn't until a few weeks later, when treatment failed, he found out it was actually nummular eczema. Never hurts to get a second opinion, especially if you aren't comfortable with the treatment prescribed.</p>
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<p>I personally would not administer DTaP in the arm of a 21 month old though. CDC says they really need to be more like 3-4 or they just don't have enough muscle mass. I think you are more likely to see localized reactions in that case too.</p>
 
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