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My friend asked me advice regarding her 20 month old dd. For the last several months she has been getting up anywhere between 4 and 5 am. Needless to say, they are exhausted. From what she tells me, she is usually asleep by 8 at night and takes a 2 hour nap starting around noon. I really didn't know what to tell her since none of my boys have been early risers (at least not since infancy). Any moms out there that have gone through this and have some words of wisdom/advice I can pass along? TIA
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My friend asked me advice regarding her 20 month old dd. For the last several months she has been getting up anywhere between 4 and 5 am. Needless to say, they are exhausted. From what she tells me, she is usually asleep by 8 at night and takes a 2 hour nap starting around noon. I really didn't know what to tell her since none of my boys have been early risers (at least not since infancy). Any moms out there that have gone through this and have some words of wisdom/advice I can pass along? TIA</div>
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I wish I had some really great advice that was concrete. The one thing that has worked for us is changing the bedtime. I wouldn't suggest this for all kids, but it works for my DD. I find if we put her to bed around 9 instead of 8 that she will sleep til 6 or later on a good day (when she's not up in the middle of the night). My first DD never would've done this, but her sleeping was very predictable and she would go down pretty early, nothing doing to change it.<br><br>
The nap will probably also end up being later too and my DD is starting to give up the nap even I think.
 

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black out curtains<br>
trim the nap back to 1 or 1 1/2 hours
 

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"Daddy is sleeping, the birds are sleeping, the sun is sleeping, baby needs to sleep too." And put her back to bed. Worked for my boys.
 

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My dd is 20 months old and has been waking anywhere from 5:30-6:30 for a while now. We tried putting her down later and later and it never made a difference. Now, we put her down for the night at 6, 7 at the LATEST. That way, at least she gets no less than 11 hours of sleep at night. I figured if she's going to wake that early, at least she'll be getting enough sleep!<br><br>
I've read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSleepless-America-Child-Misbehaving-Missing%2Fdp%2F006073602X%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_sr_1%2F102-0926390-3540153%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1177375920%26sr%3D8-1" target="_blank">Sleepless In America by Mary Sheedy Kurcinka</a> and <a href="http://www.pantley.com/elizabeth/content/ncsstpsummary.htm" target="_blank">The No Cry Sleep Solution for Toddlers and Preschoolers by Elizabeth Pantley</a> and found them both to be very helpful. They have charts in these books that tell hyou how many hours sleep your child MAY need within a 24 hour period. For a 20 month old, I believe it's 14 hours. I believe that every child is different, and needs different sleep, so we started out with a goal of 14 hours and decided we would work it up or down depending on how she did with it, but 14 hours seems to work best for her.<br><br>
When she gets a good nights sleep, she wakes in a much better mood and can make it 4-5 hours before her nap. She tranisitioned to 1 nap a couple of months ago and that has made a huge difference, too. She now naps anywhere between 2-3 hours. Most days 3.<br><br>
I would suggest moving the childs bedtime back 15 minutes per night and seeing how that helps. Sounds backwards, but I've leanred that it really does help, the more they sleep, the more they sleep....if that makes any sense.<br><br>
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We are not co-sleepers so our DS sleeps in his own room. Black out curtains worked really well. When he first realized he could get out of bed, we did do a sticker chart and each morning he could put one on it for staying in bed. Once it filled up once, we did not use another; we wanted to let him know then he could do it himself. That worked too.<br><br>
After he was going potty it started again. So if he wakes early, first we let him go potty, then if I don't think I can coax him back to his own bed he can sleep in a sleeping bag on our floor explaining that he has to go back to sleep in order to stay in our room - he loves being there and is asleep in 5 minutes. He also thinks he's practicing for camping <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> .
 

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I agree with black out curtains. We also use a white noise machine.
 

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Ditto to black out curtains and white noise machine! helps to drown out random early morning noises like garbage collection or someone driving down the street in middle of the night...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My dd is 20 months old and has been waking anywhere from 5:30-6:30 for a while now. We tried putting her down later and later and it never made a difference. Now, we put her down for the night at 6, 7 at the LATEST. That way, at least she gets no less than 11 hours of sleep at night. I figured if she's going to wake that early, at least she'll be getting enough sleep!<br><br>
I've read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSleepless-America-Child-Misbehaving-Missing%2Fdp%2F006073602X%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_sr_1%2F102-0926390-3540153%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1177375920%26sr%3D8-1" target="_blank">Sleepless In America by Mary Sheedy Kurcinka</a> and <a href="http://www.pantley.com/elizabeth/content/ncsstpsummary.htm" target="_blank">The No Cry Sleep Solution for Toddlers and Preschoolers by Elizabeth Pantley</a> and found them both to be very helpful. They have charts in these books that tell hyou how many hours sleep your child MAY need within a 24 hour period. For a 20 month old, I believe it's 14 hours. I believe that every child is different, and needs different sleep, so we started out with a goal of 14 hours and decided we would work it up or down depending on how she did with it, but 14 hours seems to work best for her.<br><br>
When she gets a good nights sleep, she wakes in a much better mood and can make it 4-5 hours before her nap. She tranisitioned to 1 nap a couple of months ago and that has made a huge difference, too. She now naps anywhere between 2-3 hours. Most days 3.<br><br>
I would suggest moving the childs bedtime back 15 minutes per night and seeing how that helps. Sounds backwards, but I've leanred that it really does help, the more they sleep, the more they sleep....if that makes any sense.<br><br>
hth</div>
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This was true of my DD#1 and the rule of thumb we used and then with DD#2 we had to throw everything out the window. She just doesn't seem to need as much sleep and the staying up later made her sleep later (and by later i just mean to a human hour like 6am). When she went to bed at 7, she no joke got me up at 4am to 5am everyday and i thought i was going to die (in addition to her night wakings of one or two times and sometimes 4!).<br><br>
So, I don't know, I think there are anomalies in everything and sleeping children are full of them!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I agree with black out curtains. We also use a white noise machine.</div>
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