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You all clearly know your stuff when it comes to dogs, so I'm beseeching you for help.<br><br>
My current foster dog is seriously ruining my life. He's a sweet little thing, but he's uncontrollable. I have tried nearly every dog training trick I know, but he is still a demon.<br><br>
The biggest problem is the peeing. He just pees everywhere. Anytime you turn your back, pee. We have done and are doing all the basic housetraining stuff (praising him when he goes outside, taking him out every hour, crating him when we can't watch him, etc.), but it has helped only some. He's still having 1-2 "accidents" a day. And I don't think they are accidents--I thikn he's doing it purposely for attention or something.<br><br>
He's also just in to everything. You can't let him out of your sight, or he'll be destroying something. Again, we're using the crate and baby gates and limiting his access, but I don't know if he's actually learning anything or not.<br><br>
With basic training stuff he's doing well--his leash manners are pretty good, he sits on command (though doesn't stay yet), etc.<br><br>
He's about a year old, he's a basset-foxhound mix, and he's from the county shelter, and he was clearly untrained when we got him (about a month ago).<br><br>
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Can you at all see a pattern to the peeing in the house? Is it right after/before eating? In relation to playing, sleeping, treats, etc... Try to figure that out and put him out to potty then. When I have trouble with a new foster and the whole potty issue, I usually take them outside first thing in the morning, right from the crate to outside no stops inbetween!. Lock the doggy door and stay there for an hour or so and each time they potty, tell them "good potty" in that crazy happy voice and put a treat in their mouth while they are going and give lots o' lovin'! I do this several times a day. I also take them outside right after meals, before going in the crate and right after (and if there are any other patterns, then too) and not let them back in until they potty. This typically takes 2-3 days for me. I'm guessing what I am writing is nothing new if you foster but I figure at least some support is better than nothing!!<br><br>
Again, are you feeding raw? I have had the most unruly, crazy puppies come through here and within 2 days of strictly raw they calm right down. Also, when they eat raw they are not dehydrated and drinking copious amounts of water trying to get hydrated - that might help on the peeing front!<br><br>
Maybe keep him in the crate more and take him out to go potty and then he goes right back in until he gets that he has to potty before he gets freedom. Does he have free access to the outside? Does he have any difficulty getting outside? Also, if he is whining in his crate notice it and get him outside - I make them be quiet before getting out so they don't associate "whine = out". I'm sure you know all this though!!<br><br>
Potty issues drive me nuts!! I feel for you!<br><br>
Good Luck,<br>
Christy
 

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Can't help on the peeing, but yeah those hounds can freaking sniff out anything and everything and they are crafty little suckers. It's worse than having to babyproof I swear. I'm not familiar with those specific breeds, we had redbones, a blue tick and a walker when we lived in the country. How much excersize is he getting? Have you tried a kong to give him something to do? Hounds are pretty high energy and when something gets their attention they can be tenacious. The trick is keeping his attention on something you want it on. Instead of the arm of your couch. Our blue tick chewed a big hole out of our mattress one day for the heck of it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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Were they sure he was foxhound? Because the boy looks Basset/Coonhound or even Basset/Bloodhound to me. I don't see the foxhound at ALL.<br><br>
Well, the first thing I'd do is triple or quadruple the exercise, and connect exercise with peeing. Seriously. One thing that a ton of people do is walk until the dog pees, and then run right back in. The dog learns that if they hold it, they get a longer walk, and they don't empty out because they're hoping you'll walk longer. So I'd do very, very boring activities, basically just loiter in a small circle, until he pees, and try to teach "all of it!" or "empty!" because males do so love to keep that pee back in case there's an emergency marking crisis a mile down the road. Then, once he pees, set off on a VERY brisk walk or run. He's old enough to be worked for a mile beside a bike, or to pull you on rollerblades. Hounds are wired to go for long straight lines; play doesn't satisfy them. They want a migration-style or tracking-style run, so you need to give him one.<br><br>
The second thing I'd do is to teach him to track. Hounds are idiot-savants, honestly; they are dumb as posts until you put them on a track, and then they're the smartest dogs that exist. So I'd look up beginning tracking sites (I lost ALL my bookmarks, or I'd paste them here, but Shannon probably has a ton) and start laying baby tracks for him. Once he's got the idea, then you start laying big tracks, which is easier than it sounds. You just get somebody to walk one of your other dogs through the field and woods for a mile or two, and you start behind them and tell him to track. He'll be so happy and exhausted by the time he gets to the end that if you do that twice a week you'll probably notice a huge improvement.<br><br>
Other suggestions: a day or two a week in a good dog daycare, and--I know this would be hard for you, but it would be a miracle for him--if you're in an area that does active coonhunting, beg to let him go along on a hunt. Plenty of hunters aren't out there to shoot the ****, just to train the dogs, and if he was with experienced dogs he'd be pretty safe.
 

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No, the foxhound is a guess. He's pretty small to be mixed w/ bloodhound, though, I think (he's about 55-60 lbs). Coonhound would make sense, too. Really I have no idea.<br><br>
These are some good ideas. No, we don't feed raw. Honestly, I'm not sure I could stomach it (or afford it!), but maybe I should look into it further.<br><br>
We are taking him out first thing/last thing/after eating, but we aren't forcing him to stay out until he goes--I'll try that. He definitely has a problem "emptying" and saves up in case there is something to mark. I'm not sure how to fix that, though...If there is a pattern to his going inside, it really seems like it's when he's bored or not being paid complete attention. Which is partially why it is so frustrating, and why it seems like a behavioral issue and not a training one. And to answer the earlier question (I can't remember who posed it), no, we don't have a dog door, but we do let him out every time he indicates and on a regular schedule in between indications.<br><br>
Putting him in dog daycare a couple of days a week is a fantastic idea. I will look into that today. This dog LOVES to play, and as neither of my dogs is much on play (the older one is, but tires quickly, and the Anatolian just doesn't want to have much to do with it), he definitely doesn't get as much play time as he should. He isn't much interested in playing with us, either--he only wants to play with the dogs.<br><br>
I'm also going to look into local hunting groups. You are right that the idea doesn't appeal at all to me, but I can see why it would be good for him. Good thought.
 

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Raw is comprable unless feeding something like Ol' Roy. I spend about $1.30 per day on my 58# dog. Don't feed pre-made raw - too expensive and way too much bone. Just go to the grocery store and choose from there- ethnic markets are wonderful too! Start him with chicken - here whole chickens are 4-5#s and anywhere from .57 to $1.20 per pound.<br><br>
There is a wonderful Yahoo group where you can learn a whole lot from people who have a lot of experience:<br><br><a href="http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/" target="_blank">http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/</a><br><br>
I know quite a few people who are vegetarians/vegans who feed their dogs raw. Some were sqeamish at first but they realized that their dogs were carnivores and that they were entrusted to make choices in their best interest and so did it in spite of the yuck factor! Now, most of them don't give it much thought!<br><br>
With regard to him being bored - I would imagine that is when you aren't paying attention to him or something fairly easy to identify. If so, put him in his crate at that point. Take him out every hour or so until he goes - if he doesn't go then back in the crate. As soon as he goes (after praise, pets, treat) then let him have a bit of freedom.<br><br>
Good Luck,<br>
Christy
 

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I am bumping this thread to let everyone know that we adopted out the crazy hound dog today. His new owner works from home and walks/jogs several miles a day already, has wanted a hound dog for years, plans to train him on a lure course after he's been through basic training, and is generally just about perfect. Obviously I'll have to wait and see how the trial period goes, but I think things are going to work out just right.<br><br>
Yay! This is why I do this. Both the dude and the dog are going to have their lives significantly improved. It feels great.
 

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Yeah, it really has. And I feel really great about the situation--I think Friday was mostly just a dog that would never do well with being left alone 10 hrs a day, and there was nothing we could do to fix that. However, his new owner works from home and his whole face lit up when I told him that Friday was going to be right at his feet all day long, so they may be made for each other. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
And now we're talking over who our next foster will be...
 
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