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I have an advanced case (at least 10 yrs old - I'm only 35) of lumbar osteoarthritis - affecting L4-S2. I've been through plenty of conservative treatment. I am still in constant pain. I wasn't supposed to start a new cycle of treatment until October (a 3-month break), but dh called asking for something to relieve the pain. So both chiropractor and neurologist had a look at me today, and they suggested a novocaine-type nerve block. They said it would help in the short-term with the pain, and that it could help with the long-term treatment.<br><br>
Has anyone had one? Any chiropractor out there want to say something? It makes me nervous as hell! I'm scared of permanent nerve damage.
 

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What kind of Nerve block. I had a corticosteroid block done on L4L5. It did nothing but cause me more pain. I also had a temporary nerve block as a test to determine which nerve was damaged where and how badly. The test was extremely painful and I couldn't even answer the doctors questions.
 

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Sorry I'm so tired you did say what kind. I would do alot of research before doing anything.
 

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They were saying novocaine - but this is through my dh translating. I did recognize the word novocaine. All I can come up with is that novocaine (or novocaine-type drugs) are nerve blocks. Am I wrong? I'm searching on the Net and not really coming up with a whole lot. They said it would be painful.<br><br>
Plus, can I trust these guys. I mean they've been great and have really lessened my pain (by about 60%) but I'm still, ya know, in a 3rd world country!
 

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Just please be careful. I'm not sure what else to say.
 

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....I'll ask him to reply to you. He, too, has lower back problems and has sucessfully gone years without needing surgery or nerve blocks. Stay tuned...
 

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Obvious disclaimer: I don't have any of your records, xrays, mri, etc., so I'm going about this "blindly."<br><br>
1. Are you "advanced stage" with a fusion (I doubt it, but don't have the xrays), or a phase 2 degeneration? With phase 2 degeneration you can see results and decrease of further degeneration with quality chiropractic care, nutritional supplementation and exercises. "Quality chiro. care" depends on what your body needs. Most likely a minimum of 60-90 visits in a 12-18 month period to see results that are long lasting. Also needed are spine specific exercises. It may 40-50 visits to get out of pain.<br><br>
2. Not knowing your current health, a nerve block seems to be an advanced step to take. But in order for you at this time to heal, you need to be able to rest comfortably. If every thing else has failed to this point, then perhaps a nerve block is the last answer. I don't know anything about a novacaine type nerve block.<br><br>
3. Perhaps a chiropractor who practices chiropractic biophysics (as I do) can do an evaluation to determine postural distortions which may be putting extra stress on your spine and thus blocking your overall ability to heal.<br><br>
4. I am in no way saying that your current chiropractic care is inadequate. Sometimes "two heads are better than one" and an additional evaluation will find something the first evaluation did not. But being in central Africa, as I think you are, can make "going down the street" to another chiropractor rather difficult.<br><br>
5. Overall, you need to be able to get adjusted frequently, rest comfortably, and exercise in order for your body to begin healing. You may want to look into water exercise. Any physical therapists with a pool nearby?<br><br>
I hope this was helpful. Best wishes to you!<br><br>
Waterdrinker's DH
 

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Sorry, you're in Central Asia, not Africa. I am a member of a world wide network of subluxation based, principled chiropractors but off the top of my head the closest chiro is in Isreal or Austrailia. Not much help, sorry.
 

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Thank you very much! I understand your disclaimer - no problem!<br><br>
Yes, phase 2 degeneration. I have leg pain and tingling in the toes and bottom of feet - and sometimes, only sometimes, in the saddle area.<br><br>
This time around, I have been through about 50 visits over a period of three months (stretches of 2-3 weeks every day, then rest periods). One month ago, I had a week's worth of intravenous drugs (glucose, vitamins, minerals, etc.). I haven't started on exercises because my chiro felt I was still too fragile. He likened my spine to a spiral staircase. So I was going to take 3 months off to rest (no lifting of any kind - my daughter, the laundry, etc.; no weeding in the garden, nothing). But I'm in so much pain that I can't sleep well or rest well.<br><br>
I'm sure there are postural distortions - I would love to do that. I am returning to France for a visit this winter, perhaps I can find someone there (yes, going down the street to another chiropractor is out of the question! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">)<br><br>
I think my chiro feels so bad for me that he wants me out of pain as quickly as possible. I think he also feels that I am impatient. It's tough because of the language barrier. One of the reasons he *did* decide, along with his neurologist colleague, to give me a nerve block is that I have chronic gastritis, a history of stomach cancer in my family, and what is currently being diagnosed as IBS - so the NSAIDs, which do provide relief (I took some for a week, knowing they are bad for me), are out of the question. It's comforting to have a precise number of visits necessary to relieve the pain - I'll think about it and decide how much longer I can live with the pain (I have a very high tolerance, BTW, so you know it's bad if I say I'm getting to the end of my rope!).<br><br>
Since I have you (I hope you'll come back! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> ): I have been suffering from pretty extreme fatigue for the past 2-3 months - leg weakness, drowsiness (heavy eyelids and burning eyes). Could my back be causing this?<br><br>
Thanks again!
 

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Two more questions (sorry!):<br><br>
1) My chiro says that indeed the fatigue is caused by my back. In fact, he links my gastritis and the mysterious pain in my right lower side to my back. He traced it all for husband, showing which nerves, etc. What do you think of that?<br><br>
2) Nutritional supplements: vitamin C, magnesium, glucosamine, vitamin D? Any suggestions?<br><br>
I'm sorry. If you're too busy for all this, just ignore me! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Just Waterdrinker here....<br><br>
You've been through the ringer, so to speak. But it is encouraging that there is a chiro in your neck of the woods. One doesn't get a very promising picture of health care treatment in those "stan" countries.<br><br>
As for your 2 questions:<br>
1. I can emphasize with you about the gastric problems. At one point I was diagnosed with GERD and IBS. Today - not a symptom. I have a scoliosis which my dh is keeping from getting worse and in fact, it is getting straighter, and "wacked out" hips. Being pregnant doesn't make my back feel better, either. It did take a couple of years to get rid of my GERD, IBS and allergies thanks to frequent adjustments. (took my body a little longer to heal due to all the structural challenges) Luckily, I haven't had the severity of problems you are having.<br><br>
2. Not an expert on vitamins - however I am reading an article about vitamin C which says that ascorbic acid is NOT vitamin C. You can check out <a href="http://www.thedoctorwithin.com" target="_blank">www.thedoctorwithin.com</a> Dr. O'Shea is a chiropractor. The article "Chiropractic Aloft" is also very interesting.<br><br>
Sometime today or tomorrow I'll have my dh read your post. I don't know what else he can say. But he may have an insight on a chiro back in France. [i spent 7 years teaching French, mostly in middle school. also spent a couple of summers in Angers studying. LOVED it! But now have mostly lost it. i do have conversations with myself in French in the shower - strange, huh. miss France, not the teaching]<br><br>
Keep smiling!
 

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Even in the most highly regarded medical community, I would NOT get a nerve block. I am not saying anything against your healers there, but I have seen the results of a block gone bad.<br><br>
If I may make a suggestion, how about a homeopath? While you may not have IRL access, you could try any homeopathic educational institute and ask for a referral by phone or email.<br><br>
I feel for you. Chronic pain is the worst.
 
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