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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/jaw.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="dropjaw"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/jaw.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="dropjaw"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/jaw.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="dropjaw"><br><br><a href="http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-baldwins-threatening-message-to-daughter/" target="_blank">http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-b...e-to-daughter/</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">An enraged Alec Baldwin unleashed a volcanic tirade of threats and insults on his 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, calling her a "thoughtless little pig," and bashing her mother Kim Basinger -- After Ireland failed to answer her father's scheduled morning phone call from New York on April 11, Alec went bersek on her voice mail, saying "Once again, I have made an ass of myself trying to get to a phone," adding, "you have insulted me for the last time."<br><br>
Switching his train of thought, Baldwin then exercised his incredible parenting skills and took a shot at his ex-wife, declaring, "I don't give a damn that you're 12-years-old or 11-years-old, or a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do." The irate Baldwin went on to say, "You've made me feel like s**t" and threatened to "straighten your ass out."</td>
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You can listen to the message from the link. It is unbelievable! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bigeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bigeyes"> By all accounts, this is the real deal and Baldwin has had his visitation rights suspended over this incident.<br><br>
Just....wow. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>Arduinna</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/7899076"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">I consider this kind of stuff to be personal family business.</div>
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Me too.
 

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That's lame.<br><br>
I guess it's just the way it is in terms of any celebrity expecting any privacy anymore. I don't condone what he did - by any means - but the public humiliation really rubs me the wrong way. He wasn't on a radio show doing this or at a night club - it was a private message.<br><br>
He should be punished - the judge in the custody case should hear it and he should have to suffer any consiquences handed down from <i>that</i> authority.
 

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Appalling on all sorts of levels.<br><br>
Not to defend him, G!d forbid, but am appalled that they tape their conversations and am appalled that they released the tape to the public.<br><br><br><br>
Dysfunction is a hard thing for a family to live with. And this one obviously has it from all sides.
 

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I think it's got to be pretty humiliating for his DD to have that released/everyone know.
 

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His poor daughter to have this very private and totally humiliating tirade placed in the public eye... or ear so to speak...<br><br>
I won't even listen to it, that is SO none of our business.
 

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Wow!!! So completely inappropriate.
 

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It's disgusting for any parent to speak that way to a child, but fortunately, in this situation the tirade was taped (ie, left in a message) so the Family Court Judge can hear it and make appropriate changes in visitation (and custody, if appropriate.) If this was my child, I would ask the judge to suspend all phone calls and institute only supervised visitation.<br><br>
However, I don't think this issue should have been made public at all. I feel so bad for the 11yo girl in the middle. It's horrible enough to deal with this kind of behavior from her father without it making the news- and even worse, her classmates reading about it.
 

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Terrible behavior on his part no doubt. It should have been handled privately. I feel badly for his Dd.
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>Ruthla</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/7899300"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">It's disgusting for any parent to speak that way to a child, but fortunately, in this situation the tirade was taped (ie, left in a message) so the Family Court Judge can hear it and make appropriate changes in visitation (and custody, if appropriate.) If this was my child, I would ask the judge to suspend all phone calls and institute only supervised visitation.<br><br>
However, I don't think this issue should have been made public at all. I feel so bad for the 11yo girl in the middle. It's horrible enough to deal with this kind of behavior from her father without it making the news- and even worse, her classmates reading about it.</div>
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Just for the record, I always agree with Ruthla. She is my own personal Intuitive Auto Reply Engine. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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We don't know how the daughter feels about the voicemail being made public, but I wish that just one of my father's tirades had been recorded... then his real behavior would have been exposed and people would have taken me seriously for once.<br><br>
He sounds like a complete narcissist. Wasn't he trying to get custody of her?
 

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The last time my father spoke to me like that, I didn't speak to him for 18 months. But I'm a grown-a** woman, not a child subjected to decisions other people are making for and about me.<br><br>
I feel badly for Ireland that this recording became public, but in a way, it might end up helping the right people protect her from this sort of verbal abuse and emotional blackmail. Any sane person would realize that leaving that sort of tirade on voicemail would just be bad - if Alec Baldwin didn't even care that he was leaving such damning evidence on a recording, I'm afraid of how he speaks to the child when they're alone.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Just for the record, I always agree with Ruthla. She is my own personal Intuitive Auto Reply Engine. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"></div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">: aww, gee thanks!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">We don't know how the daughter feels about the voicemail being made public, but I wish that just one of my father's tyrades had been recorded... then his real behavior would have been exposed and people would have taken me seriously for once.</div>
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I fall under this category. I also see it much in the same way that Mel Gibson's anti-everything rant was made public...it has definitely made me not want to support his activities. I never have been an Alec Baldwin fan, and I understand the divorce was really nasty in part due to his anger issues (which are well documented).
 
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