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<p>I have two wonderful children that we conceived easily the first month trying.  I have been trying for a year to conceive now.  I miscarried in March and am/was 8 weeks pregnant. Last week at an u/s they only saw an empty gestational sac.  I went back again today and there was still no baby.  My OB called (well, his nurse did) and said they want me to get another u/s on Monday and to meet with him because he's concerned about a molar pregnancy.  </p>
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<p>I can't believe I'm losing another baby and now that I have to worry about what happens now.  My miscarriage in March was at 5 1/2 weeks and I just woke up to bleeding and it just happened without any physical issues and I was able to start ttc again that same month.  Now I don't know what is going to happen.</p>
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<p>I just wish I knew why I could so easily have 2 kids and now I keep losing them.  </p>
 

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<p>I'm so sorry. It's hard when there are no answers!</p>
 

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<p><span><img alt="hug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug.gif"> I am so sorry mama.</span></p>
 

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<p>I'm so sorry for your loss. I know that two losses, especially when they're back-to-back, seems like a huge problem, but it's not at all uncommon. After my last m/c, when I was talking to my OB about trying again, I asked, "How often do you see patients who have a second m/c in a row?" and he said kind of grimly, "Often enough." So it doesn't necessarily indicate that anything is wrong.</p>
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<p>I also understand your frustration with the length of time spent trying. Both my losses were conceived on the first month trying, but my healthy babies took 4 and 7 months to conceive, and now I'm on my third cycle of TTC again. Sometimes it's just not as much of a science as we'd like it to be. It seems strange, but having lots of well-timed sex when you're most fertile doesn't always result in a baby.</p>
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<p><span>All the best to you...<img alt="hug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p><span><img alt="hug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="width:22px;height:15px;"></span></p>
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<p>I'm so sorry.  No answers, I have similar stats--3 easy conceptions, 2 miscarriages, the last one was molar. </p>
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<p>Just want you to know, if there turns out to be a molar pregnancy, there's a lot of scary stuff out there. It's easy to forget that *most* of the time, it is not a long term health issue. </p>
 

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<p>So sorry for your losses. <span><img alt="hug2.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug2.gif"> mama. I have a very similar story - DD was an easy second month conception, now trying since 3/09 with a 5.5 week loss in April and a 10 week in December. I think what mom-to-jj said is so important, that it's really easy to feel like with two back-to-back losses there *must* be something really wrong and that's more scary and overwhelming than the losses themselves (at least to me). But it isn't necessarily so, I think especially in our cases where the two losses are different gestational ages and circumstances.</span></p>
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<p><span>This is a wonderful little support group here and hopefully we can be of some help for you through all of this.</span> Gentle thoughts for you.</p>
 

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<p>I am so sorry. I too have just had 2 losses in a row, 5wks on the 4th of July, 9 wks on New Year's. And as I read here recently "the only thing harder than losing a baby, is losing a baby when you've just lost a baby." </p>
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<p>I have one DD conceived easily first try, took 2 cycles w/ my first loss, and 4 with this most recent one. But, I just keep telling myself that just because "chance" went badly twice in a row still doesn't mean it was anything but chance. After all, if I rolled Yahtzee two times in a row, I wouldn't think it had anything to do with me.</p>
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<p>I don't know what your spiritual beliefs are, but in my faith we believe that spirits exist before, during and after life on earth, and that gaining a body is a necessary part of earth life. With my most recent loss, I have felt strongly that the spirit of this babe was going straight to the other side of earth life, that my job was to provide it with the needed body, and that I will meet it/him? in the eternities. This has really helped me to view my loss not as a failure, but as a situation in which the mission I thought I was engaging in (to bring a child into our earth family) was in fact not the mission I was on.</p>
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<p>I know everyone has their own perspective, and I don't usually voice these things. But, I experienced a profound shift in my processing of this experience when I saw it framed as a successful mission to give that spirit what it needed, rather than as a failed mission to get what *I* wanted.</p>
 

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<p>I am so sorry for your losses.</p>
<p>I have had 2 back 2 back losses twice now. I am going in for recurrent loss testing this month but it appears that they are not at all related.</p>
<p>I had 2 healthy fullterm babies then 2 first tri miscarriages (12.5 wks and 6 wks) then 2 healthy full term babies then a loss at 17 wks due to fifths disease followed by an 8 wk miscarriage. It is so frustrating when it happens in a row but most likely you will go on to have another healthy baby without any issues.</p>
<p>Again I am sorry for your losses.</p>
 

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<p><span><img alt="hug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug.gif"> I'm so sorry mama. Recurrent loss is so frustrating, and so hard to understand when you've had healthy babies before. My first three pregnancies resulted in live, full term, healthy babies with no complications at all. But since my last live baby I have had three losses in a row, 12wks, 16wks and 21wks; I've also had two chemical pg's: the first cycle after my 1st and 3rd m/c's because my luteal phase was too short. I know this is devastating and scary but even with two m/c's in a row (especially at different gest.) they are usually random chromosomal issues that won't repeat.  Also, molar pg is usually checked for when they don't see a baby just because it can turn bad; blighted ovums are FAR more common though. Hopefully that is the only reason he wants to check that.</span></p>
 

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<p>Krista, that reassures me.  I think it sounds like a blighted ovum so I was surprised when he brought up molar pregnancy. I was hoping he was just being cautious.</p>
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<p>Nicole, what is involved with recurrent loss testing?  I had a lot of tests run at the beginning of 2010 due to difficulty getting pregnant and the only thing that showed up with that was low progesterone (which they think was what cause the 5 1/2 week loss).  But I was on progesterone for this one so I don't think that was the issue this time.</p>
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<p>I also worry because my dh has diabetes and I've seen some studies suggesting that sometimes there is increased issues with sperm fragmentation and DNA type issues in the sperm for diabetes so I worry that is what is going on now (he didn't have diabetes when we conceived our first two). And if that is it, I don't know if that is fixable. How do you repair damaged sperm?  </p>
 

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<p>Is the sperm damage caused by uncontrolled diabetes or just diabetes in general? How long has he had it and been treating it?</p>
 

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<p>He has been pre-diabetic for a few years but that wasn't diagnosed until his current dr. diagnosed him with diabetes and saw that he'd been prediabetic for years.  He's taking the highest dose of medicine he can (I forget the name b/c he takes something for triglycerides too) and has been for about 2 years.  I'm not sure how to answer the uncontrolled vs. just diabetes question. He takes the meds, exercises at least 5 times a week, and tries to eat reasonably well, but I know his sugars still remain high.  His doctor said he just has crappy genes. Lots of diabetes in his family. He's only probably about 5 pounds overweight and only 34 years old.  </p>
 

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<p>I was just wondering if it was something that wasn't an issue when the diabetes was under control but from what I read it looks like it's just men with diabetes in general :-( . That said, it doesn't make miscarriage guaranteed, just more likely; so you may have more m/c's than other women but still have a good chance of conceiving a healthy baby. <span><img alt="hug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p><strong>Cellieollie</strong> - I'm so sorry to read about your losses!!  I am also going through a m/c right now and saw that you asked about the recurrent loss testing.  My RE just ordered a bunch of tests for me with this m/c and I thought I'd share b/c it might help you.  The ones he ordered (you may have already had some of them, I don't know) were...</p>
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<p>Lupus anticoagulant (LA1)</p>
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<p>Anticardiolipin Antibody</p>
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<p>Prothrombin G20210A</p>
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<p>It was 13 vials of blood and I'm just hoping and praying that my insurance will cover it!  Kinda scared!!  Good luck to you and I hope you get some answers and your BFP soon!!  Take care.</p>
 

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<p>Thanks for the info!  Do any of those test for things that would just out of the blue happen?  I have 2 healthy children, conceived the first month trying, with no problems at all. It seems like some things that would be problems wouldn't allow for a healthy pregnancy without treatment but I don't know if some issues can develop later. That said, I know that I probably didn't have progesterone issues before and now I do but I'm not sure why that is either!</p>
 

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<p>my testin is on 1/19. I will let you know afterwards what it entails, I have no idea. I really trust my dr though so will just go with what he recommends.</p>
 

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<p>I also had 2 back to back (11 weeks and 5 weeks) after a healthy 1sy cycle pg with dd. Now it's been almost a year and a half since ttc #2 and still not pg. I know how painful it is. I'm sorry. :(</p>
 

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<p>Hi every one I'm new to This<span><img alt="confused.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="width:16px;height:21px;"></span> but I'm having my second miscarriage in 3yrs with no children .I just feel very bad and like my body is failing me I'm only 34 going on 35 and so scared that a baby will never happen for me and the Hus.I dint know what to do and know one can tell me why i can't get past the first trim.Please i need some advice<span><img alt="dizzy.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="width:25px;height:25px;"></span></p>
 

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<p>bbeal, I am so sorry for your loss.  It is so devastating.  Sending you and your husband much peace and healing.  You may want to repost this is a new thread as your current post is at the bottom of an older thread.  All the best to you.</p>
 

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<p>bbeal, I'm so sorry, too.  There are a lot of women here with experience that can help you know where to look for answers - I'm sorry I'm not really one of them.  But I'm glad to listen.  You can say or ask anything here. </p>
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<p>Someone posted something very helpful in this thread: <a href="http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1333103/trying-to-figure-out-why">http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1333103/trying-to-figure-out-why</a></p>
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<p>But also I recommend starting a new thread, or joining us in the Chat thread: <a href="http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1333865/loss-mamas-chat-thread%C2%A0">http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1333865/loss-mamas-chat-thread </a></p>
 
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