[jenniferB]

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/32650

i started bleeding a couple days ago. first i thought for sure it was implantation bleeding. [insert frantic happy anxiety-filled jumping icon]. the next day my temps plumet and i bleed a medium flow and figure it must be early af. [back to normal mood--been ttc for 12 months now so i'm used to this] this morning, still bleeding a bit, my temps go back up above the coverline.

i basically have two reasons to think that i may actually be pregnant and why i am even posting to ask for your excellent and wise opinions.

1. with pregnancy #1, i had light-medium period-like bleeding a week before af was due and it lasted for 8 days.

2. my cycles have been averaging in the cd 30s. so my af starting on cd23 seems a bit odd. (although about 5 cycles ago i did have a 22 day cycle)

i've been trying for so long now that i had gotten to the point were the 2ww was more relaxing than the pre-o. now i don't know where i am. therefore, don't know whether i should be calm or anxiety ridden. kwim?

this is my first month charting. my goal was to figure out what was going on, what was normal for me. now this. any ideas?

~jenn (in such a state!)

 

[coleslaw]

Jenn, I can see why you are so confused. I really don't knwo what to say except give it another week and see where you are at. Or try testing now, get a FRED. Without your sotry about your 1st pg, I would have said it sounds like you are out, but well, hmmm...

Sorry I was of NO help! Let us know how it goes though!

 

[Jodie]

Jenn~Man that is strange, but with your story about preg#1 not really.

If it were me I would keep temping and see what it told me and I would still consider myself in the 2ww, until or unless the temp went down under the coverline and stayed there. That very well could have been implantation for you!

I think at this point there is still hope.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, let us know what happens!
Just my $.02

 

[BeeandOwlsMum]

Jenn -

I say you are still in the wait. Reason I say this is because your temp went back up, if that was really af - your LP was about 5 days long, which is not too likely. That dip could very well be implantation.

Plus you have history of something like this happening before.

I say wait it out and see what happens with your temp.

Good luck!!!!

 

[gonnabeamom]

I agree with Adina, mostly because she should know. If she wasn't here to agree with, I'd just be telling that I've got my fingers crossed, and am excited for you!

Thinking

thoughts!

 

[BeeandOwlsMum]

gonnabeamom....:LOL

 

[jenniferB]

thanks everyone so much for helping!

this morning my temps went down again. arghh! i tried covering myself in really warm blankets and leaving the thermometer in a few extra minutes but no luck.

so now i feel like i'm in the pretty darn unlikely category. i suppose there is some hope. some wonderful person on another thread posted a chart that had bleeding and dips like mine who was pg. i also was awake two hours before i took my temp with an unhappy toddler who needed a diaper change. but usually that doesn't effect my temps that much.

well, i must say that i like this temp taking business. it breaks up the 2ww or pre-o weeks considerably. something to look forward to each morning.

(also, bleeding stopped yesterday evening--very short af if you ask me--ooo i shouldn't be doing this to myself!)

~jenn

 

[pollyanna]

hi jenn I'm not an expert, but when I looked at your chart I thought AF seemed short. For me there was a big difference if I waited to do my temps. I also thought looking at your chart that you might have O'd a couple of days earlier. here's a place that you can look at other charts and compare yours. TCOYF Charts I hope this helps

Pollyanna

 

[BeeandOwlsMum]

Jenn - also check out the chart gallery on FF. They have a lot of charts and some of them may help you out.

I am not sure what to say today, those are some wacky dips you have going.....

Keep us posted!!

 

[jenniferB]

thanks polyanna, i like the way ovusoft displays their chart gallery options. although i couldn't see a lot of them because of some wacky java script error. (the charts that had heavy implantation spotting-- too much for a computer brain to handle)

adina, you are so wonderful to stand by me. thank you. it seems so lonely in ttc land.

you know i've looked a lot at the ff gallery and what amazes me is how not standard most of them look. and NOT at all like the examples in TCOYF!

so today my temps were not so high. but now ff has redrawn my coverline. every other day it tells me to start a new cycle chart. then on the other days it redraws the coverline.

every day something new.

~jenn

 

[coleslaw]

Jenn, I was wondering about the validity of the coverline. I thought that maybe you o'd a few days earlier. Maybe some of that wcm was from bd-ing? Anyway, interesting turn of events. Testing soon?

 

[pollyanna]

Jenn I also couldn't see the first 4 charts with spotting. I think they might have been removed, because I didn't have any problems seeing any of the others. I was charting for 2yrs with ovusoft and have a hard time reading FF charts. I guess all you can do is wait and see what happens over the next couple of days.

goodluck
Pollyanna

edited to add:
I just looked at your chart again. With the new coverline it looks great. I have heard that some women have dips in temp around implantation. If it was me I would've gone out to buy a HPT and have taken it buy now.

 

[gonnabeamom]

Jenn,

I still have no useful information, but a strong "feeling" that you are pregnant.

In any case I'm still rooting for you.

I too would have tested by now, but I keep the test companies in business.

Wishing you

 

[jenniferB]

keri, i was just thinking the same thing about the wcm myself. in fact i'm not sure about any of the cm's or cp's. and now i realized that the last couple of days my temps may not be accurate. i've had a stuffed up nose. so this morning i kinda had the thermometer hanging out of my open mouth. checked the temp after 10 minutes and it was ridiculously low. so i put it under my armpit for 10 minutes and recorded that temp. since i have 2 bbt thermometers i tried them simultaneously during the day to see if they record the same thing. they don't. the arm pit is 2-5 degrees lower. so i'll try it again tomorrow with my mouth closed (can i hold my breath for 5 minutes i wonder?)

i do have a couple of tests but i don't dare take them. i've learned to hate those things. they throw me into the bit of despair and make me feel worthless. i'm so ashamed of the results that i wrap them up in toilet paper several times before buring them deep into the waste basket. only to dig it up 30 minutes later for fear that i've read it incorrectly. and i can't stand it that i pay money for this.

the next time i look at one of those things its going to have two pretty little pink lines and i'm going to know it beforehand.

~jenn

 

[jenniferB]

update: my temp this morning was clean. i was deterimined to get an accurate reading--let dh take care of dd during her waking spells. it was above the cover line.

serious nausea has started to settle in. it was hard to get to sleep last night. tiredness too, but i never use that as an indicator because i'm always tired.

but the real indicator that i might be pg is that the other day i picked up an ice cube that dd had dropped on the floor and thru it in the trashcan.

 

[butterflyma]

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but the real indicator that i might be pg is that the other day i picked up an ice cube that dd had dropped on the floor and thru it in the trashcan.

:LOL

Ooooh, I've been gone for a couple of days and missed all of this thread- I just read through at the edge of my seat! I totally think that you're in the wait....and very possibly the 9 month wait

When are you gonna test??? I know how you feel about the negative tests- so no pressure

I'm just totally on the edge of my seat and anxious waiting to know if you're pg, that's all....

 

[jenniferB]

ugh! this is so frustrating! but i suppose its better then the agony of a long wait. i broke down yesterday and took the test. i was so sure i was pregnant! but the test came back negative as usual. (where is that eating-my-own-words icon?)

so i went back and started drawing up a new cycle chart and realized i better start checking CM because i still don't know when i'm going to O.

so what do i find? EWCM with 1" stretch. this is the first time i've noticed this. how exciting!

so now if my temps go up it either means i'm on my second cycle O or i'm in the triphasic stage.

oh the fun.

 

[gonnabeamom]

Jenn,

Keep on hanging in! What a frustrating confusing cycle, but hopefully it can still end in a big fat

Know that we in cyberspace are still routing for you!