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Angelcare monitor - thoughts?

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Because of my paranoia about SIDS we are thinking about buying one of those Angelcare Monitors that go under the crib mattress. It's purely for my own peace of mind - DS has no risk factors other than the fact that he cannot, will not, EVER sleep on his back no matter what we do, including co-sleeping which is not working for him (he thrashes, kicks and fusses all night with us). The poor kid needs some sleep! DH has been sleeping out on the living room floor with him for a couple of weeks, and it's getting crazy.

Anyway, the one concern I have about the monitor is that it is electronic - it plugs into an outlet and has a battery back up, and goes right under the mattress. I don't know much about electromagnetic fields but I am concerned for him having to sleep on top of one. I know I had read something once about having something like a heating pad plugged in (not even turned on) near a baby is bad for them. Does anyone have an opinion on this, and if you're using a monitor, how is it working out for you??

I'm not sure if I could just use it battery-powered and not ever plug it in?
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I think it generates a false sense of security and preys on the fears of a new parent. I understand about having a kid who isn't a fit with co-sleeping. My son moved into a crib in our room at about 8 months. He was also a preemie and a tummy sleep due to reflux.

I was very paranoid about it, but honestly, I think these monitors do more harm than good. How many false alarms and panic stricken runs will you make? If it does do what it is intended to is there really anything that can be done by knowing sooner? Most (nearly all actually) SIDS babies die depite being resuscitated promptly b/c there is something we don't know that is wrong with them.

We seriously considered getting one so I do understand where you're coming from BUT, in the end knowing about the nature of SIDS made me reconsider. We just kept our son in our bedroom with his crib pushed up against the bed and I felt that as a mama, I would *know*.

This is just my opinion and I hope it doesn't offend you. I'm not saying it's wrong or dangerous to have one. I just think in the end it doesn't give any guarantees and and can make a parent complacent.

SIDS is just scary to think of.
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I think it generates a false sense of security and preys on the fears of a new parent.
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We came really close to getting one but really I agree with the previous poster in that when you think of how SIDS 'works', it really probably wont help your child if HEAVEN FORBID, something should happen. I hate gimmicky things that are marketed towards scaring the bejeesus out of new moms who are already at their wits end.
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You know, I guess this is where I'm leaning too. Etoilech, I was just saying to DH today that we need to push the crib up against the bed. I think that's the route we'll go for now - I did a quick search on PubMed and found some articles that talk about a link between autism and electromagnetic fields.


They ought to have a "new mom internet filter" out there to protect people like me who know just enough about research to scare the pants off themselves!
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I'm just curious, does anyone know of a case where a SIDS baby was "saved"? I honestly have never heard of that, unfortunately. Which would also make me think that the monitor wouldn't help. But does anyone know of any cases?
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I'm just curious, does anyone know of a case where a SIDS baby was "saved"? I honestly have never heard of that, unfortunately. Which would also make me think that the monitor wouldn't help. But does anyone know of any cases?
I've not shared this before here, but I think I "saved" our son a couple of months ago. He was three months then, and I was up late reading. He was next to us on the bed, on his back when his breathing became erratic--like he was having a bad dream and crying in his sleep. I glanced at him briefly, saw that he was dreaming, and went back to reading. When I looked again, mind he was laying directly next to me on the bed, he was purple. I pulled him up, and woke my husband up, and we were just rubbing him, trying to get him to wake up and breathe. He'd breathe properly for a breath, then just....stop. I threw him at my husband, who was talking and rubbing him down, so I could get dressed to take him to the hospital. I'm trained in heathcare CPR and all of it went directly out the window. All I could think of was getting him to a hospital.

By the time I was dressed, my husband had our doc on the phone, who was telling us what to do next, and Ivan came around. He was really weird for several minutes after, and wouldn't nurse, just gazed off into space. Then he nursed and slept really heavily.

I feel, in my heart, that had I not been next to him, he wouldn't be here. It may sound reactionary, and I'm NOT that kind of woman or mother, but I know it to be true. This hasn't ever happened to one of my other children, just Ivan.

The ped was reluctant to say it was an arrrested SIDS case, though she said it sounded likely.

Anyway, cosleeping is considered "unsafe" but my babies would never be anywhere but in my bed.

Hope that helps!
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I wouldn't get a monitor. I would keep the baby's sleep place very close to mine and make sure not to vaccinate....

-Angela
Oh my goodness, onlyboys!!!!!! You must have been terrified!!!! Just reading your post made my pulse race. OH MY GOD!!!!!

Thank God you were there to save him!


So even the ped thought it was (prevented) SIDS? That's interesting. Is it possible that it was apnea? Did she mention that at all?

Wow, I'm still shaken up by your post. Thank you for sharing that--it must be horrible to even think about it.
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I had a similiar experience to onlyboys with dd #2. I think in her case it may have been reflux related. She was on her back and took a breath and that was it...no more breaths. I put my hand on her and didn't feel her chest going up and down. Then I pulled her up and turned on the light and she was purple. I called her name, patted her on the back and she finally gasped and puked all over and sort of came to. It freaked me out and I often slept with her on my stomach after that.

She had several other purpley episodes after that until she finally outgrew her reflux. She also has asthma so I am sure it aggravated it.
Oh my goodness


Solstar, how old was your dd when that happened (if you don't mind me asking)?
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I know of one case personally where a baby was saved - and he was only saved because his mother was wearing him at the time. Unfortunately, for him, saved meant oxygen deprivation leading to CP/brain damage, loss of ability to suck, repeated lung infections leading to hospitalizations and abx immunity. He eventually died in pallatative/hospice care before he turned two
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I have a baby monitor. I loved it when I first got it because I would put dd down for bed and be able to go downstairs and listen to her. Well one day she was crying for god knows how long and the piece of junk did not work. It was on with the volume up as loud as it could go and I was sitting next to it but there was an interference and she cried without me knowing.

Let me tell you, I have not bothered to even turn that stupid piece of garbage on since. What's the point? I prefer her to be right next to me where I can see and hear everything she is doing.

I would not suggest anyone get a baby monitor because I agree, it provides a false sense of security that your baby is ok.
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I have a baby monitor. I loved it when I first got it because I would put dd down for bed and be able to go downstairs and listen to her. Well one day she was crying for god knows how long and the piece of junk did not work. It was on with the volume up as loud as it could go and I was sitting next to it but there was an interference and she cried without me knowing.

Let me tell you, I have not bothered to even turn that stupid piece of garbage on since. What's the point? I prefer her to be right next to me where I can see and hear everything she is doing.

I would not suggest anyone get a baby monitor because I agree, it provides a false sense of security that your baby is ok.
Ahh, you see I think she is talking about a special monitor that goes under the babies crib sheets to monitor their breathing, not the regular monitor where you just listen for babe. The Angelcare Monitor is losely marketed as a SIDS preventative, which it's not. I think babies should be kept close enough to you so you can hear them... I do agree.

That being said we will move into a multi level townhouse and I can see how the as yet unused regular baby monitor will fill a need with my toddler being upstairs in the evening and us likely downstairs.
I will do a visual check often though. It's not good to solely rely on technology.
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Originally Posted by EVC
Oh my goodness, onlyboys!!!!!! You must have been terrified!!!! Just reading your post made my pulse race. OH MY GOD!!!!!

Thank God you were there to save him!


So even the ped thought it was (prevented) SIDS? That's interesting. Is it possible that it was apnea? Did she mention that at all?

Wow, I'm still shaken up by your post. Thank you for sharing that--it must be horrible to even think about it.
Well, the ped was reluctant to say it was SIDS. She couldn't recall a case that was ever called SIDS but had been interrupted, but she said it certainly sounded like he was "rescued." She did mention that the powers that be have no idea at all what SIDS is, and she suspects a lethal combination of something. We did talk about apnea, but when the episode causes discoloration, she said they look to other causes.

I didn't mean to shake you up!
But, it really solidified my family's feelings about cosleeping. After four kids, we're experts at the family bed!
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My daughter was a preemie(34weeks) and prone to apneic episodes so she came home on a monitor. Hers was not the under the mattress kind but the contained unit with actual pulse and breath readout and chest leads and stickies. She wore it for 4 months before we gave it back. I cannot tell you the number of false alarms we had. Yes we did have real alarms all the time too but oh my goodness. I found that the least number of alarms happened while wearing her or sleeping next to her. The closeness and the sound of my breathing and heartbeat really seemed to regulate her enough to keep the apnea at bay most of the time. She had a few episodes that she needed actual stimulation to recover from but most were self-recovered within 10 seconds after the alarm(it was set to sound at 20 seconds with no breath and sound once a second after without a breath). I really think things like the AngelCare monitor are just so alarmist. If the child has no risk factors for SIDS or apnea and is healthy, there is no reason to get one. I cannot even begin to tell you how terrifying it is to wake from a sound sleep at night hearing that shrill sustained beep that is LITERALLY loud enough to wake your neighbors and then realize when you check the readout and your child that it was a false alarm and your child is now wide awake and terrified and screaming. Your heart does more than pound. It's enough to keep you awake for the rest of the night watching the readout for any dips, even though it was a false alarm. Don't do that to yourself. Keep your baby close at night in a sidecar crib, wear your baby often, and nurse frequently.

meg
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I think those monitors are not necessary unless your baby has medical issues. I believe some NICU's use them.

Ds didn't like to sleep on his back. We co-slept and he slept on his side turned into my body. For naps I tried to prop him on his side with blankets, but had better luck just letting him nap on my chest. I stopped resisting it and just looked at is my down time, watched a movie or read.
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