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Hello Out There?!?!<br><br>
I suggested an Animal Lovers forum be created and was told the chance of that happening is slim to none. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
So..... I thought starting a tribe would be the next best option!<br><br>
There have been many times I've needed to reach out to fellow animal lovers with questions on the care of and needs of both my pets and the animals I've rescued in the wild... I've posted questions in various forums here and usually receive no responses....or very few. I hope this can be a place where we can reach out w/ stories, tips, suggestions, help, etc.! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br><br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><b>Animal Lover / Caretaker Resources:</b></span><br><br>
~ <a href="http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites.woa" target="_blank">Animal Rescue Site ~ One Free Click Feeds an Animal in Need ~ Click Now!</a><br><br>
~ <a href="http://www.gsrne.org/" target="_blank">German Shepard Rescue of New England</a><br><br><br>
(Have a link you want me to add here? PM me with details!)<br><br>
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My "animal intro":<br><br>
As for pets....I have:<br>
Two dogs - a rescued rat terrier (Max) and a rescued lab mix (Glory)<br>
One fish (Dorothy) that has a weird ability to communicate with me :LOL<br>
Two hermit crabs (Cassie & T-Bone)...interesting creatures!! Anyone else have them?<br><br>
I just have such a deep love for animals... their innocence intrigues and calls to me. They seem to like me, as well... if that makes any sense. Almost as if they come to me when in need....whether domestic or wild. I've rescued and found safe homes for many a stray dog... though I always find it heartbreaking to say goodbye to them.<br>
While I'm at it.... I have to confess to shedding many a tear over dead animals on the highway... I'm even saddened by skunks and the like. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">:
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wave.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wave"> Another animal lover reporting for duty! As my sig states, we have a dog (8 yr. old Alasken Malamute) and a 1 yr. cat; helping animals in need is a big part of our lives. I'm really hoping this tribe can help me think through some of the dilemmas I often face with animals and other people. MamaRBH, I have often cried over the situation of roadkill -- for me it has more to do with the disrespect they receive after being killed...just laying there with no one paying any attention or respecting their lives...it breaks my heart <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br>
Currently, I'm helping a friend who has a 3 yr. old lab that was diagnosed with cancer about 3 months ago <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mecry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="crying"> They originally gave him 10 days to live. But with natural remedies, herbs, and acupuncture, he has really had a wonderful three months...we are near the end though. My friend gave birth just 7 weeks ago, so she has a lot on her plate and I'm trying to do all I can to just help them out. If anyone has any keen insight as to what might be most helpful for them after their dog passes, I would love to hear it. It is something I've fortunately had to not deal with. Okay, I'll shut up now. Great tribe!
 

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Subscribing - good idea <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
I have 4 German Shepherds<br><br>
and 5 Kitties that were strays.<br><br>
We are involved in a lot of Rescue activities.<br><br>
We are an approved GSD foster home for a Rescue Org. but we no longer foster dues to many reasons.<br><br>
This is a great idea b/c I have so much to post about animals
 

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Yes, this is the same for me. Their innocence, to me, is so precious... and to leave them lying there... w/out any dignity what-so-ever... as if they were never of importance really upsets me. My DH is in our local Rotary with the man who is in charge of the division of the department of transport which handles "animal clean-up" DH knew I was having a really hard time passing a stray dog who had been hit on a road leading to our neighborhood....so he asked the man if he could send someone over to pick-up the dog's body... and the guy told DH, "If an animal is not disturbing the flow of traffic, it is not mandatory that we come to remove it." <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><br><br>
I've struggled with animals killed on the road since I was a child. It makes me feel very helpless...and angry... and ya know what really gets to me... people saying that deers are over-populated - so the hunting of them and the hitting of them on the road is okay... HELLO???? Over-populated??? WE took over their home....we took their land away from them... WE ARE OVER-POPULATED. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
Okay... that's my ranting for the day (I think... more may come out later... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">: )<br><br>
AliciaO, I'm so sorry your friend is losing her dog to cancer.... and especially at such a vulnerable time in her own life. What a difficult thing for you all to go through. I'll be wishing his final days are peaceful...and that he passes gently.<br><br>
We lost our pekignese to heart failure several years ago.... I really hurt for months and months as though I lost a sibling or child... Then while talking about my Pekignese to a random stranger...and expressing how hard it was to lose him - this stranger said to me in the most comforting and endearing voice, "All dogs go to heaven." I have no idea why.... but I felt peace from that moment on. I'm not an overly spiritual person... but that just gave me a sense of relief...even as an adult.<br><br>
I'll stop rambling... see what you all got into joining this thread?! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> I hope I don't scare the others away...
 

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I have often wondered why there is no animal forum here, it seems to fit right in with natural family living. I only have one dog, a poodle mix that we got from the pound about 4 years ago, he is probably close to 5 or 6 years old. His name is Xerxes (Zerk for short) and he is our first baby. I felt so bad that he got so much less attention after the baby was born but he has been such a trooper and loves Ruby. Except he recently tore up a whole bag of diapers while we were out but maybe he thinks we should be using cloth only <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">:<br><br>
I have a family friend that really believes that she will see her deceased pets in heaven when she dies. She also thinks her dog can understand everything she is talking about so she has to spell things out when she doesn't want her to know what's going on!<br><br>
We lost our cat, Gangster, last year, when Ruby was 2 months old. He got hit by a car (we assume) and must have staggered into our driveway and collapsed. I am still glad he was an outdoor cat as he was very adventurous. What do you all think of indoor/outdoor cat issue? I don't want another cat cause I don't want to keep it indoor and don't want to lose another. This was my first cat, I come from a dog family. I hope to breed someday. I am fascinated with labradoodles but have only met a few irl. I love long haired dogs, I grew up with a bearded collie and she was my best friend for many years. Well, gotta go. Hope to hear from more animal lovers!
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bouncy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bouncy"> (<--------that's my impression of a labrador!)<br><br>
Great. Glad you started a tribe and I'm subscribing! I've also rescued and placed many dogs, and one domesticated wolf-dog! That was in Colorado, now that I've moved back to Maine I've not done any rescues. But, plan to in the near future.<br><br>
My 4-legged family consists of Ryley (springer), Sosa (Samoyed), Charlotte D-Light (mini-lop rabbit) and Bweeto (formly known as The Phatty Burrito... my ds has changed it- officially!) who is our big fat tiger cat. We are NOT cat people and took him only because he was in a desperate situation. Now, I wouldn't trade him for the world. He's one of my closest buddies. And, he's AMAZING w/ my ds.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yes, this is the same for me. Their innocence, to me, is so precious... and to leave them lying there... w/out any dignity what-so-ever... as if they were never of importance really upsets me. My DH is in our local Rotary with the man who is in charge of the division of the department of transport which handles "animal clean-up" DH knew I was having a really hard time passing a stray dog who had been hit on a road leading to our neighborhood....so he asked the man if he could send someone over to pick-up the dog's body... and the guy told DH, "If an animal is not disturbing the flow of traffic, it is not mandatory that we come to remove it." <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><br><br>
I've struggled with animals killed on the road since I was a child. It makes me feel very helpless...and angry.....</div>
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Get this one : While living in Leadville, CO we had to go over Freemont Pass every AM to get to work (40 minute mtn. pass- scary!). One morning on my way over I saw a HUGE dead moose (w/ quite a rack) dead and bloated on the side of the road (btw- Colorado has the highest number of road kill in the country- or so it was a few years ago... It's awful, I've even seen a bear on the side of the road- how can you not see a freakin' bear???!!!). I called the sheriff's office because I didn't want to see it there every day until it decomposed, which is what happend w/ every other road kill. Well, that day I ended up leaving work after only an hour and when I was passing the moose again, there was some guy (not a cop... I'd seen this laborer around town- just a regular mexican guy) w/ a CHAINSAW, hacking the head off of this moose! It was truly repulsive and I was 6 months pregnant. I had to pull over and vomit. It also REALLY ticked me off that this loser was probably going to tell his buddies he shot the thing and hang his head on his wall. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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KateMary, I too struggle with the outdoor/indoor cat thing. I grew up with only indoor cats. When DH and I got our first cat, he was about 2 when he started venturing out onto the roof next to our kitchen window. I was totally okay with this; he loved the smells, the sounds, the adventure...move forward 3 more years, we are in a new house, bambino arrives, 10 months later he goes out and never comes back. :cry We were heartbroken. We recently got DD a cat, and he has started venturing outside in the last month. At first I was really, really wary of this, but then started to think about what I was denying him...he loves it so and comes home with so much love....it is hard to think of not doing it now. Wel anyway that's my 0.02
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have a family friend that really believes that she will see her deceased pets in heaven when she dies. She also thinks her dog can understand everything she is talking about so she has to spell things out when she doesn't want her to know what's going on!</div>
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yes, it's believing in the <a href="http://www.petloss.com/poems/maingrp/rainbowb.htm" target="_blank">RAINBOW BRIDGE</a><br><br>
I believe also !<br><br>
without a huge debate (that ususally gets crappy), cats should be kept indoors - they are so susceptable to evil kids, picked up for fighting dog bait, easily snagged to sell to med research labs, some hunters will use outside cats as target practice & asst. other nasty things... this happens everywhere.<br><br>
Also, I beg that folks do not become backyard breeders.<br>
So much goes into being a thoughtful & eithical breeder : only breeding proven bitches & studs of purebred backgrounds, your breed should be tested for all it's susceptable illnesses, hips/elbows should be x-rayed & certified by OFA, at least 1 of the paired dogs should have attained some type of recognition in the show, obedience, hunting, companion dog, etc venues.<br>
All dogs being bred should have passed the AKC canine good citizen test - altenative would be Temperment Testing certificate.<br><br>
you breed NEVER to make money but for the betterment of the breed itself.<br>
When I bred, there is so much $$ involved in the care of the PG bitch (U/Ss or Xrays) & pups let alone the extreme amt of time it takes to properly raise, socialize & temperment test & tract each pups development. Ultimately, it is YOU that matches the right pup with prospective owner NOT the other way around.<br>
I did not have a vacation or extras for the 4-5 yrs I bred.<br>
I paid to have my dogs eval'd by a German breeder sponsored by my state's breed club....<br>
Hip X-rays & OFA cert alone runs $500/dog<br><br>
BTW- I have a beautiful 3 yr Bitch that comes from 8+ generations of PD, SWAT, Bomb/Drug, Military & Border patrol K9s here and mostly from the Czech Rep & Germany.<br>
she was approved as a mate to a handsome stud working on his Schutzhund II status & I'm not sure I can breed her in my heart with all the dog out there needing RESCUED. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
I get tons of emails daily for dogs needing rescued... many that are in gassing shelters <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
it breaks my heart.<br><br>
ok my rant is over <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/happytears.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="happytears">:<br><br>
BTW - I have 1 tattoo of 1 of my deceased dogs on my arm.<br>
it has her name with pawprint around it.<br>
Sadly, I have to add another name...<br>
that's how much I love my (& other ) animals.
 

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Ooo,<br>
I love this thread! Can't write much now (gotta shower while dh is giving ds a bath).<br>
We have always had rescued dogs. Our dogs come to us by serendipity, it seems.<br>
Currently we have two dogs, a spaniel and a small mixed breed (schipperke/spaniel?). Both wonderful dogs.<br>
We have had as many as four dogs at one time. Our dogs are real members of the family. When ds is older we will go back to doing doggie foster care. We have done this before and loved it.<br>
To concur with other posters--<br>
Polka 123, I am against unethical dog breeders too. And, because most pet store dogs come from puppy mills, I don't recommend that people buy from a pet store. I also am a BIG GSD fan. WE used to go to the GSR of New England annual benefit auction. Haven't been in a couple of years.<br>
Roadkill makes me sad too.<br>
I think, as tough as it may be, cats should be kept indoors. Our family cat, when I was growing up, disappeared for a week. She was an outdoor cat. She finally came home but after that would have seizures regularly. I can only imagine what happened to her when she was gone. I worked at a vet's office and the things I have seen to outdoor cats...not good.<br>
Edamommy, I love your take on the labrador. I love Samoyeds!<br>
How do I subscribe to this thread?
 

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to subscribe:<br>
while viewing the thread, click "thread tools" & the drop down menu will sai subscribe to this thread<br><br><br>
GSRNE is a great rescue <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> What does GSRNE stand for?
 

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Hey animal lovers. I wanted to respond first to the question about the bird. Is it a baby bird? Why do you think it is deformed? It sounds like it is a baby bird that may have fallen from its nestand mama bird or dad bird is still feeding it. They will continue feeding it until it is ready to fly. You could find a nice place on a branch to put it so it is off the ground and further from predators in teh same genreal vacinity. The parent birds will hear its' cry and continue to feed it. If you see a bird feeding it, your best bet is to back off and let mom and dad feed it. They'll know what to feed it and how much, etc. It will recieve the moisture it currently needs from its food.<br><br>
Anyway, I have 4 indoor cats, all rescued, and big goofy dog, also rescued. A gold fish, and 2 rabbits, one rescued and one bought. I live on a wildlife refuge, because my husband is the federal officer with the US fish and wildlife service. I love animals, but have to admit to supporting some regulated hunting and not being a vegetarian. Hope I won't get flamed for this! I am a naturalist, who is currently raising 3 boys, who definately belong on the list of wildlife living here!<br><br>
I know my pets will be waiting for me in heaven,when I hopefully get there! Let's face it, it wouldn't be heaven without them. As to road kill, it sucks beyond belief. I alway say a quick little blessing when I see it. Not anything special, but just apoligizing to them for their bad ending, and hoping they will find a heaven of their own. Corny, I know, but it makes me feel a bit better to have acknowledged it!
 

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our other furry family member's name is tigger- she adopted us about 2 months ago, and had kitten 3 weeks ago... lol<br><br><br>
we too aren't (weren't) cat people, until she started loving on my dd when she was outside still. we have convinced her to be an inside kitty...
 

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Alicia,<br>
GSRNE stands for German Shepherd Rescue of New England. Their website is <a href="http://www.gsrne.org" target="_blank">www.gsrne.org</a>.<br>
They find homes for German Shepherds that have been given up/abandoned/turned into shelters. There are many rescue groups devoted to placing specific breeds.<br>
Myself, I like both purebreds and mixed breeds. Our most beloved dog was a big mixed breed...A sweet, fluffy dog (possibly shepherd, collie, lab mix).<br>
I believe our pets will be with us in the afterlife.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hey animal lovers. I wanted to respond first to the question about the bird. Is it a baby bird? Why do you think it is deformed? It sounds like it is a baby bird that may have fallen from its nestand mama bird or dad bird is still feeding it. They will continue feeding it until it is ready to fly. You could find a nice place on a branch to put it so it is off the ground and further from predators in teh same genreal vacinity. The parent birds will hear its' cry and continue to feed it. If you see a bird feeding it, your best bet is to back off and let mom and dad feed it. They'll know what to feed it and how much, etc. It will recieve the moisture it currently needs from its food.</div>
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Thank you so much for this. I know nothing about birds and am so grateful for your post... as I've put a great deal of worry into this bird. I believe it is a baby bird, yes.... he is smaller than the mom and dad who are feeding him...his chirp is very "young" sounding...much different than the others. His feathers were also very "fluffy" when he first came and have since become more mature looking. I was thinking he may have some kind of deformity or handicap because he was isolating himself to our front lawn....and for the first week or so he was not taking flight... just flying about a foot in distant from an inch or two off ground. Yesterday I watched him fly to my neighbors lawn... he seems to be doing much better! Which all makes sense to me now with what you've told me. I'll continue to keep an eye on him w/out interacting... it seems his parents are doing all for him that he needs.<br>
Again - thank you so much.
 

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Yes... I believe this, too, now... and I'm very excited to see my peke again! I have had many a dream where I've met up with him at a beautiful place that resembles a park... full of nature, beauty, and peace... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/happytears.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="happytears">:
 

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Also, I beg that folks do not become backyard breeders.<br>
So much goes into being a thoughtful & eithical breeder : only breeding proven bitches & studs of purebred backgrounds, your breed should be tested for all it's susceptable illnesses, hips/elbows should be x-rayed & certified by OFA, at least 1 of the paired dogs should have attained some type of recognition in the show, obedience, hunting, companion dog, etc venues.<br>
All dogs being bred should have passed the AKC canine good citizen test - altenative would be Temperment Testing certificate.<br><br>
you breed NEVER to make money but for the betterment of the breed itself.<br>
When I bred, there is so much $$ involved in the care of the PG bitch (U/Ss or Xrays) & pups let alone the extreme amt of time it takes to properly raise, socialize & temperment test & tract each pups development. Ultimately, it is YOU that matches the right pup with prospective owner NOT the other way around.<br>
I did not have a vacation or extras for the 4-5 yrs I bred.<br>
I paid to have my dogs eval'd by a German breeder sponsored by my state's breed club....<br>
Hip X-rays & OFA cert alone runs $500/dog<br><br>
BTW- I have a beautiful 3 yr Bitch that comes from 8+ generations of PD, SWAT, Bomb/Drug, Military & Border patrol K9s here and mostly from the Czech Rep & Germany.<br>
she was approved as a mate to a handsome stud working on his Schutzhund II status & I'm not sure I can breed her in my heart with all the dog out there needing RESCUED. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
I get tons of emails daily for dogs needing rescued... many that are in gassing shelters <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
it breaks my heart.<br><br>
ok my rant is over <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/happytears.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="happytears">:<br><br>
BTW - I have 1 tattoo of 1 of my deceased dogs on my arm.<br>
it has her name with pawprint around it.<br>
Sadly, I have to add another name...<br>
that's how much I love my (& other ) animals.</div>
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ITA. My dream is to become a breeder when I am independently wealthy and have land of my own out in the country, and when kids are grown and I need something else to do with my life. But I could always be a rescuer too. I want a labradoodle someday though! They look so cool!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I want a labradoodle someday though! They look so cool!</div>
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Do you have a link to a site that shows pics of them...? I'm dying to see what they look like - I don't believe I've seen one before.
 

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I was so happy to hear your little bird took flight! So wonderful!<br>
I was so excited today to see the snapping turtle moms climbing out of the swamp and into our yard to dig their nests and lay their eggs. So far their have been 2 in the last day. My boys and I sat at the window and watched their journey. Now in a few months hopefully we'll see the little tiny hatchlings. We have managed to catch at least one hatching for the last three summers that we lived here. So cool! I love this time of year. The birds are singing, the turtles are laying, and the baby foxes are out and about!
 
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