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I really do not want to turn dd's carseat around until she reaches the rfing limits. But I am really uncomfortable with where her carseat is. It is on the right side behind the passenger's seat. I have been in two accidents (both not my fault) and they have always been side impact. Statistically I have been told that most accidents are side impact crashes.
I had her seat professionally installed by the expert that does it for our county. She would not put it rear facing in the middle because I have the arm rest that comes down there and she said that is really unsafe, but she did say that as soon as we turn the seat around then it should be in the middle due to the risk of it being on the side. She told me that when it is front facing then the armrest is not a problem.
I have been so nervous with dd on the side of my car due to being hit, but I am just as nervous to put her in the middle and have her front facing. She is almost 18 months and quite tall for her age, but only 24 pounds. I am a total advocate for leaving it rf'ing, but I am so torn with being hit on the side.
One of my friend's nieces was just in a side impact crash and she has been in a coma for 4 weeks and the DRs think that she will have a serious traumatic brain injury (I also work with the TBI population, so that also adds to my fears).

Any thoughts?
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i can relate to your feelings. we moved our son to the outboard passenger seat position recently. we chose to do this because our car -- a 2003 Subaru Forester -- only has LATCH hooks in the two outboard positions and not in the middle and his leg and body strength has grown so much that he was able to loosen the seatbelt tightening in one arching or push against the seat. i was not able to keep the seat tight enough for my comfort without fully reinstalling the seat before putting him in it each time, which is obviously not a realistic task, especially in the mostly drizzliness of an Oregon winter and spring. now we have the added struggle of having to have his carseat in the recline position instead of the more upright position, and this limits the front passenger seat movement and recline. this isn't bad for me right now, but i am only 3.5 months pregnant and it will become an issue in a few months. and it is a problem for my partner, who has his own "pregnant" belly and needs the passenger seat to be more reclined and then he has significantly less leg room.

our son is also smaller (only about 23 lbs and 31.5 inches) and i definitely don't feel comfortable turning him forward facing yet. the possibility of a side impact crash does freak me out a bit, but i know that we have a highly rated carseat (a britax marathon) so that makes me feel a little better.

the best piece of advice i heard about carseats in cars went something like this: the safest place in the car for your carseat is the place you can get the best, safest, tightest install. so since it is no longer the safest and tightest instal for us in the center seat because we can only use the seatbelt, the next best place is in an outboard position where we can use LATCH. and since installing rearfacing in the center is not a recommended option for you because of the armrest, it seems that the best and safest place for your carseat is in an outboard position.

~claudia
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MF, Here http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=155867
is a great thread which addresses the issue of car seat placement. Hope this helps and post with anymore questions.

Dallaschildren
CPS tech/instructor and momma to 2 sons in seats
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Originally Posted by Monkeyfeet
I had her seat professionally installed by the expert that does it for our county. She would not put it rear facing in the middle because I have the arm rest that comes down there and she said that is really unsafe, but she did say that as soon as we turn the seat around then it should be in the middle due to the risk of it being on the side. She told me that when it is front facing then the armrest is not a problem.

Any thoughts?
Did she remember to read your car seat manual and vehicle manual for clarification? This used to be the rule but there are seats/or vehicles out there now, where it is acceptable to place a RF seat in front of an armrest or other fold out apparatus in the rear center seating position.

Dallaschildren
CPS tech/instructor and momma to 2 sons in seats
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Originally Posted by dallaschildren
Did she remember to read your car seat manual and vehicle manual for clarification? This used to be the rule but there are seats/or vehicles out there now, where it is acceptable to place a RF seat in front of an armrest or other fold out apparatus in the rear center seating position.

Dallaschildren
CPS tech/instructor and momma to 2 sons in seats

Hmm, interesting. No, she did not!

Thank you both for your responses. I am going to get my manual!
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Actually, most crashes are frontal crashes, but side impact crashes are the most deadly. I would definitely read the manual, I'd be interested to know what kind of car you have and what it says about that.
We have 2 cars and neither have a middle seating position at all. DS is outboard in both of them. I am fine with that, although they are brand new cars with side airbags and DS is in a Britax Boulevard and Wizard with extra side impact protection and that does make me feel better.
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We have 2 cars and neither have a middle seating position at all. DS is outboard in both of them. I am fine with that, although they are brand new cars with side airbags and DS is in a Britax Boulevard and Wizard with extra side impact protection and that does make me feel better.
You mentioned side airbags. Are they side airbags or side CURTAIN airbags; and are they in the rear for those passengers or are they for the front seat passengers?

Dallaschildren
CPS tech/instructor and momma to 2 sons in seats
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Side curtain airbags, in all 3 rows in my car and both rows in DH's car.
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Side curtain airbags, in all 3 rows in my car and both rows in DH's car.
That's great!
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I thought that the recommendation was one year AND 20 lbs. I know that rear is the safest period but she IS old enough and weighs enough to be turned around, right? Or am I missing something?
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I thought that the recommendation was one year AND 20 lbs. I know that rear is the safest period but she IS old enough and weighs enough to be turned around, right? Or am I missing something?
Extended rear facing is considered safest practice. The minimum is one year and 20 pounds. Based on available safety data, most parents would rather rear face past the one year and 20 pound mark.
http://www.cpsafety.com/articles/StayRearFacing.aspx

Dallaschildren
CPS tech/instructor and momma to 2 sons in seats
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I thought that the recommendation was one year AND 20 lbs. I know that rear is the safest period but she IS old enough and weighs enough to be turned around, right? Or am I missing something?
That's just the minimum.

And since, as was just mentioned, the majority of accidents are head-on, which is where you're going to get a TON of spinal stress, it would make sense to protect the baby by keeping her rear-facing, which reduces that sort of killing/paralyzing stress, to protect from something that is more likely to happen.

IMO.
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