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I love my SIL dearly, but she really drives me crazy when it comes to ds. Like the other day... I asked her if she minded watching him just for a min while I went to the bathroom. Well I come back and she is changing his diaper and has powder EVERYWHERE. It was all over ds and all over the couch, and ds was coughing and surrounded by a huge cloud of powder! I freaked out and explained to her why that is a bad thing. Well he was also running a fever, so since the dipe was already off I decided to take him temp (rectally) and when I stuck the teeny tiny tip in his rectum she freaked out, covering her mouth, and ran out of the room in shock. Ds is not even making a peep. She went on and on about how I should take his temp under the arm. There are so many other incidents, but I don't have time to go in to them now, but to sum it up, she is totally clueless about babies. And she used to work at a daycare with babies!!!! Makes me really glad I'm a SAHM.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">There are so many other incidents, but I don't have time to go in to them now, but to sum it up, she is totally clueless about babies. And she used to work at a daycare with babies!!!! Makes me really glad I'm a SAHM.</div>
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This is really funny to me because my sil is the same way, works in a daycare and all, but she also has two kids of her own and will continue to be clueless even after you explain things because she is so stubborn.<br><br>
Great Example: Neice was 6 months and had thrush. SIL gets a q-tip to clean the roof of her mouth that she first coats with honey.<br>
"what are you doing you can't give her honey"<br>
"why?"<br>
"because she is too little it can be really dangerous for her because of the bacterias in it."<br>
"na uh"<br>
"look it says right here ON THE BOTTLE, 'never give to infants under a year', seriously she could end up in the hospital."<br><br>
SIL proceeds anway <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: multiple times a day for the next few days saying, "see she's fine." <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">:<br><br>
Needless to say, I feel ya. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So because your SIL is clueless all daycare workers are? Interesting theory.</div>
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Sounds like that is the theory. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nut.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nut"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">
 

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Hey, I'm a SAHM with two who has somehow managed to never take a rectal temp! Cuz, omg, ew. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> They don't even do it at the hospital these days.<br><br>
That's what them thar new-fangled ear-thingees are for. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Lots of SAHMs are totally, totally clueless about all things relating to food allergies/the evils of babypower/how overdressed for the weather their kids are. I have no idea what that has to do with the price of peas in Texas, though... overdressed, babypowered, and honeyfed as they may be, those kids seem to really be mostly OK. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So because your SIL is clueless all daycare workers are? Interesting theory.</div>
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I did not say that all daycare workers are clueless. That is not my theory. I am not a stupid person. I do realize that in spite of the fact I know a clueless daycare worker, yes, there are competent daycare workers out there.<br><br>
It was only recently that I found out my SIL used to be a daycare worker. I was shocked. I did not know that people as clueless as her worked in childcare. I thought they all knew certain things, like not to powder a baby's face, or that taking the temp of a squirming 10mo under the arm isn't all that accurate. Upon realizing that *some* other daycare workers may also be clueless, I was grateful that ds is home with me. That's all. It was not meant as an attack on moms who have kids in daycare or anything like that.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hey, I'm a SAHM with two who has somehow managed to never take a rectal temp! Cuz, omg, ew. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> They don't even do it at the hospital these days.<br><br>
That's what them thar new-fangled ear-thingees are for. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Lots of SAHMs are totally, totally clueless about all things relating to food allergies/the evils of babypower/how overdressed for the weather their kids are. I have no idea what that has to do with the price of peas in Texas, though... overdressed, babypowered, and honeyfed as they may be, those kids seem to really be mostly OK. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"></div>
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Not everyone can afford those "new-fangled ear thingees". And taking a rectal temp is (at least to me) much easier and faster and more accurate than under the arm or in the mouth. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but I was just surprised that someone who takes care of babies for a living would run out of the room in shock and horror at a rectal temp.<br><br>
As for babies who eat honey and breath baby powder and seem "mostly ok", I'm sure they're out there. But what about the babies who eat honey and breath in baby powder and end up really sick from it? Are you saying that you don't mind if a daycare worker (or anyone else) surrounds your child in a cloud of powder and the baby is actually crying and coughing because some babies are mostly ok?<br><br>
Oh I forgot to mention she thought you were supposed to pull the foreskin back to clean under it. She didn't do that to ds though cause I have told her several times that is a major no no. But had I not ever mentioned it, ds may have gotten retracted. But I guess you might say that some babies in Texas or wherever are forcibly retracted and mostly ok.<br><br>
I'm surprised at the reactions I'm getting about my OP. People, put yourselves in my shoes. Wouldn't you be a bit shocked if you found out one of the most seemingly inexperinced people you knew (with babes) was a daycare worker? And if you were a SAHM who saved your baby from this persons ignorance on a regular basis, wouldn't that maybe make you grateful that you didn't have to worry about leaving your child with someone like that all day without you there to save him? I know some moms have to work, or choose to work and I'm not knocking them. It's just that my SIL has made me grateful that I don't have to be in their shoes.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not everyone can afford those "new-fangled ear thingees". And taking a rectal temp is (at least to me) much easier and faster and more accurate than under the arm or in the mouth. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but I was just surprised that someone who takes care of babies for a living would run out of the room in shock and horror at a rectal temp.<br><br>
As for babies who eat honey and breath baby powder and seem "mostly ok", I'm sure they're out there. But what about the babies who eat honey and breath in baby powder and end up really sick from it? Are you saying that you don't mind if a daycare worker (or anyone else) surrounds your child in a cloud of powder and the baby is actually crying and coughing because some babies are mostly ok?<br><br>
Oh I forgot to mention she thought you were supposed to pull the foreskin back to clean under it. She didn't do that to ds though cause I have told her several times that is a major no no. But had I not ever mentioned it, ds may have gotten retracted. But I guess you might say that some babies in Texas or wherever are forcibly retracted and mostly ok.<br><br>
I'm surprised at the reactions I'm getting about my OP. People, put yourselves in my shoes. Wouldn't you be a bit shocked if you found out one of the most seemingly inexperinced people you knew (with babes) was a daycare worker? And if you were a SAHM who saved your baby from this persons ignorance on a regular basis, wouldn't that maybe make you grateful that you didn't have to worry about leaving your child with someone like that all day without you there to save him? I know some moms have to work, or choose to work and I'm not knocking them. It's just that my SIL has made me grateful that I don't have to be in their shoes.</div>
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well maybe you should consider editing your title. reread it and you might see why people would get offended. I am a SAHM and proud of it and don't want to put my little one in daycare, however, I found your post and title, especially, to be insulting to daycare workers and those who decide to use daycare for their kids.
 

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Meh, pet parenting theories and taboos change like diapers in the wind. Twenty years from now, our kids will be discussing an entirely different set of taboo behaviors that reveal "total ignorance" about babies.<br><br>
Talk to your grandma about what moms judged each other about forty years ago and see if I'm not right. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
You could always say, "Aren't you glad your baby isn't in THIS daycare?" if you weren't trying to slam on all daycare workers and facilities. Cuz there are a whole hell of a lot of SAHMs who are at LEAST that clueless. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Babies not being in daycare is no guarantee that their care won't fall under the category of "totally ignorant."<br><br>
Hell, just yesterday, I freakin' LOST my toddler because he escaped the house-- if I were running a daycare, I hate to think how that'd look on my record. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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Ah, let's be nice. There are clueless, mean, loving, stressed parents who SAHM and WOHM. Sounds like your SIL just happens to work. Maybe her kids are better off that way. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><br>
I stay home w/the kids but at least half of my girlfriends work so I know better than to judge either way.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ah, let's be nice. There are clueless, mean, loving, stressed parents who SAHM and WOHM. Sounds like your SIL just happens to work. Maybe her kids are better off that way. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><br>
I stay home w/the kids but at least half of my girlfriends work so I know better than to judge either way.</div>
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I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that she has no children. And I wasn't really trying to judge SIL as much as I was judging the daycare who hired her. She has no real reason to know these things since she has no children, and if her employers didn't train her properly it's not her fault. But I do feel bad for the babies left in her care.<br><br>
She also has no knowledge of "parenting theories". And I don't think the tide will ever change on babies eating honey or breathing baby powder. I'm not talking about AP vs mainstream. I'm talking about someone basically powdering a babies face (a baby with a family history of asthma) out of ignorance. I just didn't realize that daycares hired people with no experience and don't even bother to go over certain basic things.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">well maybe you should consider editing your title. reread it and you might see why people would get offended. I am a SAHM and proud of it and don't want to put my little one in daycare, however, I found your post and title, especially, to be insulting to daycare workers and those who decide to use daycare for their kids.</div>
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I did reread it and I didn't find it to be offensive. The title is exactly what the post is... a reason for SAHM's to be grateful their little ones are at home. I'm not always a gung-ho SAHM. Sometimes I hate it. My baby might be in daycare if I had a good paying job. I meant this post to give burnt out SAHM's who are really more like "stuck at home moms" something to be grateful for.
 

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i didn't find the op to be offensive at all.<br><br>
i worked in daycare and preschools before i was a parent and looking back on that time i am appalled at some of the stuff that i witnessed, so op, not only can i relate but i also share your gratitude in being a sahm.<br><br>
just the other day, i did a little experiment to see if dd would possibly tolerate the child care center at the gym (i am recovering from significant postpartum issues as well as a broken foot so i really need to exercise as part of my rehab). up until now, i've been able to work out when dh is home but we've been so busy starting up a new business (so that hopefully we can BOTH be sahp's!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">) that evening time has been at a premium thus my physical condition has suffered a bit. i was hoping to be able to do this 1 maybe 2 times a week for 45 minutes to an hour now that dd is 18 months. they gave me a beeper and told me that they would page me if dd cried for more than 15 minutes, i said no...please page me the moment she starts to be upset. luckily, they did uphold that and 10 minutes into my workout, i was buzzed and i ran down to get dd. as i walked in, a worker at the center (who was most likely not older than 16 or 17) stopped me and said that dd just had to learn to stay in there and that i should just leave her to cry so that dd would learn that 'lesson'. i rolled my eyes and said that is not the way we parent, and scooped dd up. other things that disturbed me were...all of the women/girls working in the center were guzzling glasses of soda and eating chips (unprofessional), and there was a huge flat screen tv on blaring a cartoon, with 4 little boys (maybe around 3 -ish years old) sitting around the tube with a blank expression on their faces. there were only 2 other toddlers dd's age in the center, both boys, and one of them was super aggressive.<br><br>
now, this is a super upscale gym, and everyone RAVES about the child care there, and i am less than impressed. besides the fact that i left dd in there for 10 minutes and they charged me for a full hour. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
i apologized to dd and took her for a swim and she was happy as a clam, and thus i need to rethink my workout options.<br><br>
all a long story to commisserate with the op.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">i didn't find the op to be offensive at all.<br><br>
i worked in daycare and preschools before i was a parent and looking back on that time i am appalled at some of the stuff that i witnessed, so op, not only can i relate but i also share your gratitude in being a sahm.<br><br>
just the other day, i did a little experiment to see if dd would possibly tolerate the child care center at the gym (i am recovering from significant postpartum issues as well as a broken foot so i really need to exercise as part of my rehab). up until now, i've been able to work out when dh is home but we've been so busy starting up a new business (so that hopefully we can BOTH be sahp's!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">) that evening time has been at a premium thus my physical condition has suffered a bit. i was hoping to be able to do this 1 maybe 2 times a week for 45 minutes to an hour now that dd is 18 months. they gave me a beeper and told me that they would page me if dd cried for more than 15 minutes, i said no...please page me the moment she starts to be upset. luckily, they did uphold that and 10 minutes into my workout, i was buzzed and i ran down to get dd. as i walked in, a worker at the center (who was most likely not older than 16 or 17) stopped me and said that dd just had to learn to stay in there and that i should just leave her to cry so that dd would learn that 'lesson'. i rolled my eyes and said that is not the way we parent, and scooped dd up. other things that disturbed me were...all of the women/girls working in the center were guzzling glasses of soda and eating chips (unprofessional), and there was a huge flat screen tv on blaring a cartoon, with 4 little boys (maybe around 3 -ish years old) sitting around the tube with a blank expression on their faces. there were only 2 other toddlers dd's age in the center, both boys, and one of them was super aggressive.<br><br>
now, this is a super upscale gym, and everyone RAVES about the child care there, and i am less than impressed. besides the fact that i left dd in there for 10 minutes and they charged me for a full hour. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
i apologized to dd and took her for a swim and she was happy as a clam, and thus i need to rethink my workout options.<br><br>
all a long story to commisserate with the op.</div>
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I used to run a daycare. I would've been appalled if I found out my child's daycare worker used a rectal therm on my child. It's a really easy way to injure them.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">now, this is a super upscale gym, and everyone RAVES about the child care there, and i am less than impressed. besides the fact that i left dd in there for 10 minutes and they charged me for a full hour. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:</div>
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Hey, we go to the YMCA where the drop off childcare is included in membership, they read stories every time we've been there and the caregivers are moms who have no problems sitting and rocking the little ones. Not a TV in the whole place...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hey, we go to the YMCA where the drop off childcare is included in membership, they read stories every time we've been there and the caregivers are moms who have no problems sitting and rocking the little ones. Not a TV in the whole place...</div>
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Yep - love the Y - I haven't used their child care for DS2, but DS1 used to love to go with my mom. They have a climbing wall and no TV in sight. DS1 went to the Y pre-school, too - very cool program and he loved it. He still talks about it when we pass it on our walks.<br><br>
And, for the record, I would be livid if a dcp used a rectal thermometer on one of my kids. I'm not jumping on the OP at all. It's just not something I would ever feel comfortable with. If my child were running a fever, I'd expect a call and then I'd handle it myself. It's really not their job to be taking temps.
 

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I feel lucky to be able to work from home but I also know there are amazing childcare options out there... they may come at a price and no one can replace a mother's love, but I also know babies need a happy mom 1at and not all moms would be happy being a SAHM.
 
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