Anti-Woman info supported by Government funded agencies.

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Pynki

Discussion Starter · Apr 6, 2006

This article was linked from a discussion over in RS about "What is a Fundementalist Christian"

Scary, scary, goverment sanctioned things been going on.

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Dr. Shaber tries hard to separate fact from fiction because, she says, "rumor and hearsay can start to seem real." In the past, she'd sometimes refer patients to government websites and printed fact sheets, or rely on those outlets to help create her own materials. Not anymore. "As a physician, I can no longer trust government sources," says Dr. Shaber. She is not a political activist or a conspiracy theorist; in addition to her own practice, she's Kaiser Permanente's director of women's health services for northern California and head of the HMO's Women's Health Research Institute. Yet this decidedly mainstream doctor and administrator says, "I no longer trust FDA decisions or materials generated [by the government]. Ten years ago, I would not have had to scrutinize government information. Now I don't feel comfortable giving it to my patients."

Scary, scary stuff.

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JesiLynne

· #2 · Apr 6, 2006

I can understand that but......

Safe Birth Control Pills

Read the info that comes with them
They are far from "safe"
I'd rather take my chances with getting pg than develop brain cancer

Pynki

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 6, 2006

I don't think that all birth control is the safest thing. I think women should be told of hte complications involved with it. I can not take hormonal BC at all. That said, to say that condoms offer no protection against STD's is not only ludicrous it's dangerous.

JesiLynne

· #4 · Apr 6, 2006

I can agree with you there Pynki my dear

I bote for the govt staying the heck out of teaching bc all togethter

Honeslty I dont want any govt good or bad teaching me or my kids about sex or sex related topics

Pynki

Discussion Starter · #5 · Apr 6, 2006

Of course you agree with me JL, it's because I'm so sensible. Thusly I should be made a moderator. Everyone would say... Ah yes... That Pynki, she's so sensible. I can't argue with her on that one... And the board would spin happily to sunshine and rainbow land. :giggle Or something like that.

Danelle78

· #6 · Apr 7, 2006

Humm...FDA is corrupt. Yup, that'snot cool. But they've been doing it for years. They have a price. You can get what you want passed. How do you think Xanax made it the market?

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To sum up: after eight weeks, the placebo patients were doing about as well as those on Xanax. Those on Xanax got the mule kick of heavy withdrawal symptoms once the drug was stopped.
http://www.nomorefakenews.com/archiv...w.php?key=1392

JesiLynne

· #7 · Apr 7, 2006

Pynki my dear you are sensible

I do HEART you

The FDA needs to go.
They are crap and are too easily bribed
So are pharma companies

But PYNKI, I am in the running for mod too, or maybe its my own wishful thinking *insert never in a million years smilie*

Wolfmeis

· #8 · Apr 7, 2006

Danelle I do believe you have graduated to Invisible Poster status!

Pynki

Discussion Starter · #9 · Apr 7, 2006

What? I'm not Danielle, but I totally don't get what your saying...

MountainLaurel

· #10 · Apr 7, 2006

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Originally Posted by Pynki
Scary, scary stuff.

Ditto that. As a librarian, I can no longer conscionably direct users to government Web sites as legitimiate resources, after the purging of the Education Department site of all research that disproved the Administration's claims about NCLB, after information about gays was purged from HHS sites, after disproven research about links between breast cancer and abortion was posted, after scientists were pressured to change and hide research findings.

the sunshine

· #11 · Apr 7, 2006

This isn't really about birth control per se, it's about this administration deliberately putting out false information, and deliberately withholding real, useful information. Particularly about women and reproductive health.

Pynki

Discussion Starter · #12 · Apr 7, 2006

Exactly Sunshine. Thank you for putting so succintly what was bothering me.

JesiLynne

· #13 · Apr 7, 2006

Did I derail this thread

If I did sorry, sensible Pynki

eightyferrettoes

· #14 · Apr 7, 2006

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Originally Posted by JesiLynne
I can understand that but......

Safe Birth Control Pills

Read the info that comes with them
They are far from "safe"
I'd rather take my chances with getting pg than develop brain cancer

I think this line of thinking tends to underestimate the health risks that one accepts by becoming pregnant. Sure, birth control has risks, but so does pregnancy/childbirth or pregnancy/abortion... no reason for governmental sites to obfuscate the comparative risks by pretending that women who are afraid to use artificial bc will abstain altogether.

Which is, I think, exactly what's going on.

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gentlebirthmothr

· #15 · Apr 25, 2006

Well, bought the issue intending to read the article, when I looked at the article I changed my mind.

Can't that my twin sister and our girl friend/s believes in what these magazines say. These are ones that want a c-section birth or unatural vaginal birth.

Thank you.

Danelle78

· #16 · Apr 25, 2006

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Recently the FDA disclosed that the excessive levels of estrogen delivered by the birth control patch Ortho Evra can cause serious injuries and even death to the women who use it. Johnson and Johnson is the parent company of the manufacturer of the Ortho Evra patch. http://www.orthoevra-legal-center.com/

I haven't been able to research into this site. But thought it might be valid to the issue at hand nonetheless.

mama ganoush

· #17 · Apr 25, 2006

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Originally Posted by Danelle78
How do you think Xanax made it the market?

cause it is really cool?

huggerwocky

· #18 · Apr 26, 2006

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Originally Posted by Pynki
I don't think that all birth control is the safest thing. I think women should be told of hte complications involved with it. I can not take hormonal BC at all. That said, to say that condoms offer no protection against STD's is not only ludicrous it's dangerous.

The sympto-thermal method has a better pearl index than the pill. For the love of life, I don't understand why it's not being more promoted and why professionals have no clue. I fear it's because it's free!

aprons_and_acorns

· #19 · Apr 26, 2006

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Originally Posted by huggerwocky
The sympto-thermal method has a better pearl index than the pill. For the love of life, I don't understand why it's not being more promoted and why professionals have no clue. I fear it's because it's free!

I think you hit the nail on the head with that one, huggerwocky.

Ruthla

· #20 · Apr 26, 2006

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Originally Posted by huggerwocky
The sympto-thermal method has a better pearl index than the pill. For the love of life, I don't understand why it's not being more promoted and why professionals have no clue. I fear it's because it's free!

What I don't "get" is why big pHARMa isn't trying to cash in on NFP somehow. Maybe convince women that NFP "works" but only if you get monthly u/s to detect ovulation and/or pee on a stick daily to test hormone levels. How about a computerized thermometer that does the charting for you?

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