[klg47]

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>Rhonwyn</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/7780377"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">I must have missed something. What is WAPF? or WAP?</div>
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We're kind of OT here. WAPF is the Weston A. Price Foundation. We should probably be in the vegan or traditional foods forums, lol.

 

[counterGOPI]

<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/notes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="notes">: since becoming moreinto wadorf and just wanted to be close ot the earth and live more naturally some of my veganism has been compromised so to speak. i still am very strict in our diets but we now buy organic wool for our dd and have beeswax crayons.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">: im very interested in what everyone has had to say <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">

 

[Deborah]

Thanks for the thoughtful responses on the sheep question. I do prefer to get my wool from local producers who only have a few animals. I think small farming operations are much less likely to treat their animals brutally than factory farms. Shearing doesn't have to be a violent operation, thank goodness.<br><br>
Sheep do present us with a moral problem. I'm not sure they would revert quickly, although several generations of careful breeding might be able to take them back to something a bit more like wild sheep. The sheep at Sturbridge Village (?) have been reverted back to the sheep that the settlers in the 1600s raised. Still a long way from the wild variety!<br><br>
As a handspinner, I like my wool.

 

[Attached Mama]

i watched a sheep being sheared at a waldorf demonstration and it was nothing like what the pp described. the man used old fashioned hand clippers and then a set of old fashioned hand crank clippers. i think he finished up with electric ones -demonstrating all the possibilities.<br><br>
Anyway, sheep are known as being pretty docile creatures, and even tho they have to sort of lie on their backs or sit on their butt leaning on the shearer, i never heard one baaaa of protest. I doubt they were drugged or something insane like that as they were lively enough in their pen. One sheep did get a little knick on him when he wiggled one time -similiar to getting a knick when shaving.<br><br>
FWIW I am veg. Yeah, it would be nice if sheep could live in the wild by themselves, but from my limited exposure to shearing, i didin't think it was so bad.

 

[kkar]

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<div style="font-style:italic;">the man used old fashioned hand clippers and then a set of old fashioned hand crank clippers. i think he finished up with electric ones -demonstrating all the possibilities.</div>
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This has been more along the lines of my experience as well. Of course I've only been around families with a few sheep so maybe that makes the difference.

 

[Rhonwyn]

I think as with anything else, it is always better to go with small, local farmers. This is true with vegtables and fruits so it only makes sense that it would be true for animal husbandry as well. We are omnivores in our family but we try to make a conscious effort to only buy animal products from organic, free range, no cage and local as much as possible. Not only is it better for the animal but it is better for the human.

 

[Deborah]

I'm always puzzled by people brutalizing valuable livestock animals, too. Sheep and cows only produce well if they are treated well, so you've got to be real dumb to beat on them. Unfortunately there are some dumb people around and also sadists, which is worse.<br><br>
Just to go momentarily off topic, did you all know that there was a fashion in England in the 18th century to have portraits painted of prize livestock. So there is a whole slew of classy paintings of pigs, sheep, horses, cows, bulls, etc. Weird, huh?<br>
here is an example <a href="http://www.rhc.rdg.ac.uk/olib/images/objects/60s/64_52b.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rhc.rdg.ac.uk/olib/images...60s/64_52b.jpg</a>

 

[thunderkitty]

This won't answer all your problems, but <a href="http://www.kidbean.com/orcodo.html" target="_blank">here</a> is a vegan waldorf doll inspired line. Organic cotton too I might add. Best of luck. It seems like the more normal we try to make our Veg lifestyle the harder it gets. I've decided I'm in a stage now of not trying to fit any expectations for that exact reason, I'm just taking things day to day. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">

 

[JamesPalmer]

Vegan means compassion

Never give in doing your best for this earth.


I too work in a school and I try not to mention that I am vegan although it does come up when they wanna get me to help with cooking or handling food. I have to ask if its ok that I don't participate. I tell them I can't handle certain things and they seem fine with that.

I will certainly be offering alternative ideas to them once I have my feet firmly established in my new role.

Waldorf are currently asking to see my CV. Ha that is what brought me to the link.

Any tips from your husband should be most welcome. I am not a teacher but an assistant.

Kind regards,
James