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I didn't see another thread...sorry if this is a duplicate. I think I saw a few sigs with UC...<br><br><br>
I had MW assisted HB with both of my kids, and this time feel compelled to go UC. DH needs a bit of convincing, but after our last HB he said "And why did we hire a MW?" (We looove our MW btw, and she did just what we wanted her to-nothing!) I think we just need to watch the birth video again for him to remember. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
I plan on keeping good records, mainly as a CYA kinda thing. I'll get some pee sticks, do my blood pressure at the grocery store, and weigh myself. Just for fun I may have my friend measure fundal height every now and then.<br><br>
I was fortunate enough to be invited to an unassisted HB in May.(her 2nd HB, 1st UC) Her DH was a little nervous, so she wanted me there to help him stay focused. It was wonderful to watch them do what they needed without question. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"><br><br><br>
Anyone else? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Yeah, there is a thread, but it's lost deep in the DDC archives. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><a href="http://mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=1155976&" target="_blank">http://mothering.com/discussions/sho...php?t=1155976&</a><br><br>
Yay for UCing! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy">
 

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Interested, if things happen really fast. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><br><br>
Love the confidence and wisdom that women have who trust their bodies to UC.<br><br>
Here to learn. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/grouphug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="grouphug"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">
 

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IMHO, I am not personally comfortable with UC. If anything did go wrong I could never forgive myself. But I am ALL ABOUT HB. It really is a matter of what feels right for you. I give moms a lot of credit for going the UC route, I am just to chicken to do it.
 

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I think my screen name outs me as a UCer, LOL<br><br>
I've had 5 UC's and 2 hospital birth. We're planning on a UC with this one. Still not 100% sure if I will be doing shadow OB care or not yet. I kind of want an u/s later on to determine the gender. Plus I am older with this one at 34 and had major abdominal surgery this past Spring, so I kind of want some blood tests to watch certain levels of things. Plus, a back up plan is always a good thing.<br><br>
But still planning on a UC water birth. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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Could someone tell me what UC stands for? Or maybe give me a link to someplace that defines all of these acronyms? Thanks!
 

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Unassisted Childbirth. :)
 

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I am not exactly comfortable with UC, for myself. I am a student midwife and totally believe and trust in my body and women's bodies to birth. That isn't my issue. My issue is, what *if* something were to go wrong? Serious meconium, bleeding, etc? Do UCers head to the hospital in that instance? I guess I just need a little more clarification. I have seen before that some UCers have the 'if it is meant to be' attitude. Meaning it will work out however, if the baby dies, that is how is was meant to be.
 

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It depends on the UCer. I have a friend who paid a small fee for a midwife to be "on call" during that time, with the understanding that she might not call at all ever. When my daughter was born, we lived (still do, but we'll be moving before the next one, so it won't be the same, obviously) 3 blocks from the biggest, baddest hospital in the county (and there are many). Definitely able to get to a hospital that can handle emergencies quickly. We figured if there was a problem, we could call ahead of time and let them start prepping an OR room while we head over and get there in about the same time as if I were in L&D and needed an emergency C-section.<br>
And then, some UCers are midwives themselves and have things on hand. It all depends on the situation.
 

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Yo! I'm here. Planning another UC unless something comes up to make me feel differently.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I am not exactly comfortable with UC, for myself. I am a student midwife and totally believe and trust in my body and women's bodies to birth. That isn't my issue. My issue is, what *if* something were to go wrong? Serious meconium, bleeding, etc? Do UCers head to the hospital in that instance? I guess I just need a little more clarification. I have seen before that some UCers have the 'if it is meant to be' attitude. Meaning it will work out however, if the baby dies, that is how is was meant to be.</div>
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I love the enpoweredchildbirth.com site for the "what if" question:<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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This question is so pervasive and comes in so many different forms (i.e. <b>What if the cord is wrapped around her neck? What if there's meconium in the waters? What if my baby dies?</b> etc.) that we're slowly <a href="http://empoweredchildbirth.com/articles.html#what" target="_blank">creating our own knowledge based on the negative "what ifs in birthing".</a><br><br>
But first, try countering some of your most frightening "What if" birth questions with a few of these:<br><br>
What if I have a wonderful birth? What if I fall even more deeply in love with my partner because we went through birth alone together? What if nobody touches my precious baby but my closest family and friends? What if my private parts remain my private parts during my birth? What if taking responsibility for my own birth really does reduce my risk of suffering serious birth complications? What if my births really can be healing and holy?<br><br>
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I don't have the "it was meant to be" attitude. I do my research and I fully understand nurses and doctor's positions since they see hundreds of thousands of births compared to my vagina, which has only seen 7 births essentially. But out of those 7 births only one was not viable and 1 birth happened through an incision which I now believe was unnecessary.<br><br>
The saying goes, "Doctors look for something to go wrong and are surprised when they don't. Midwives don't look for anything to go wrong are and surprised when they do."<br><br>
Doctors don't always create the most positive birthing situations. Monitors, epidurals, IV's, straps, stirrups, withholding food, etc etc etc it's no wonder America is falling further and further down the list on neonatal deaths and maternal deaths. We have some high death rates and yet some of the best technology around. The conclusion is that technology does not improve birth, it hinders it, causes premature babies, raises the risk and chance of an unnecessary c/s, infections, and even death.<br><br>
For those who completely trust doctors and hospitals, more power to you. But their failure rate scares me more than a midwife (which is different from a MEDwife, that practices under a doctor and hospital rules).<br><br>
For the most part I trust my body. But I also know things can go wrong. I will have a shadow OB who will not know of my UC plans. I will use him as a back up option if I need to transfer to the hospital in case of an emergency. My history, however, at this point kind of indicates things should go smoothly, but life is not that simple and I know perfectly well things can go wrong.<br><br>
I also think the notion that we create what we believe is true as well. If we believe things can and will go wrong; they probably will. If we believe things will go smoothly and be fine; they probably will!<br><br>
Positive thinking goes a long way!<br><br>
As for "Do UCers go to the hospital if things go wrong?" Like someone else said It depends on the person I guess. I of course would head to the hospital if something seemed to be going wrong. I am not worried at this point, but perhaps when I am 36-38 weeks pregnant things will change. At least by then I will have a better idea of how my body is reacting and dealing with this pregnancy and perhaps I will have a lot more information, too, regarding this baby. At this point in time it's hard to say what will happen in another 8 months. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
HTH some
 

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i just want to agree with ucmom.<br><br><b>here are the GRIM statistics for hospital birth</b> <b>in the u.s.:<br><br>
out of the 28 developed countries in the world,<br><br>
the united states ranks</b> <b>26<br><br>
in maternal and perinatal hospital mortality rates</b><br><br>
meaning: america has a rate of death in mothers and babies about equal to that of "3rd world" countries<br><br><b>with all our glorified technology, ob's and l&d nurses WHY are so many mamas and babies dying?</b> this is unacceptable, and we as consumers have the power to change some of what is going on.<br><b><br>
no matter WHAT your ob/hospital may TELL you, you ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE AND THE RIGHT TO REFUSE ANY TEST OR PROCEDURE.</b><br><br>
even if you feel bullied, ultimately you make the choice to submit to bullying and pressure from the outside, instead of making a choice that is educated and well thought out.<br><br>
the onus is on US as MOTHERS to do extensive research into what our choices are. we need to educate ourselves on what is normal in pregnancy, labor, birth, postpartum, routine genital mutilation (aka "circumcision"), vaccinations and breastfeeding. only then will we be able to make truly informed and responsible decisions for ourselves and our babies.<br><br>
until we choose to take responsibility by educating ourselves on an individual level, our mortality rate will continue to climb, there will be unnecessary c/secs & birth injuries, unnecessary traumatic birth, breastfeeding relationships that are doomed before they began, little boys with parts of their genitals missing and vaccination damage.<br><br>
eta: as an anecdote, i have had one hb with a cnm attending and one uc. without telling my entire birth story, i had a great mw, but her asst was a mw with her own practice, who my mw had not worked with before.<br><br>
basically, because of the asst mw, i ended up pushing on my back, being SCREAMED AT "if you don't push this baby out RIGHT NOW, i'm going to give you a HUGE EPISIOTOMY!" needless to say, i tore up and down and required stitches to deliver my 6 lb 6 oz dd..<br><br>
i loved my mw but i don't ever want ANY interference at my births again. i will continue to uc as long as i feel safe and healthy.<br><br>
just my small experience illustrated to me how vital it is for a birthing mother to be undisturbed, and with a caring, compassionate, trained and hands off birth attendant.<br><br>
that is the type of midwife i will be - one who trusts birth and women's bodies and the birth process. i am merely a guide, not the director or manager of birth. care providers should be available to help a woman birth, not poke and prod and check and direct and force and abandon the mother who has trusted them to help her, if help is truly needed.
 

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I totally agree with you scarlet! I wish I could have UC. My DH would never go for it, he thinks i'm crazy for wanting to know if there is a tub at the hospital. I've chosen a very *natural* ob, who encourages natural birth and hypnobirthing. She has 3 midwives in her practice and they're all very crunchy. I guess I'm pretty ok with that.<br><br>
My dh's sister is a nurse and thinks if you have an MD behind your name then you are some kind of god to be worshipped, because, after all, if you're a doctor then you know everything. RIGHT!!!! She's already freaking DH out about the fact that I'M NOT vaxing. Can I kill her? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">She's already freaking DH out about the fact that I'M NOT vaxing. Can I kill her? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"></div>
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Perhaps you can with a vaccine. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> (completely joking of course)
 

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HAHA!!! That made me LOL!!!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rotflmao">
 

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I've wanted to freebirth for my 9y/o and my nearly 2y/o. Different life events happened, however their births were good happy healthy births and I am satisfied with that.<br><br>
Looking forwards to this little one, we wanted a summer babe to widen our options of birthing places in and around our home. The dream birth is outside, in water, warm night, full moon, just hubby and I. Who knows, we may just have that, but we are interviewing a midwife Sat, that from reading about her and chatting a little, I already love her, but she lives 80+ miles away. My labors tend to be fairly quick, so I am also going to prepare for freebirth practically and mentally, not be depressed if it doesn't happen.<br><br>
The thing about freebirth that really beconds to me is truly birthing w/out inhibitions w/out audience w/out ingrained social standards. Maybe tmi, but one of the best labor techniques I had with my last was masturbation, but that screeched to a halt as soon as my UK midwife arrived. INHIBITIONS. I say no inhibition this time!
 

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Thanks for all the replies!<br><br>
DH and I discussed it last night, and he is just not comfortable enough to go UC. I respect that, even though I wish he was on board. He hasn't done all the reading and learning that I have, and he's not likely to learn enough in the next few months to FULLY trust the process.<br><br>
So we're going to use our MW from my last birth, whom I LOVE. She is totally hands off, and she lives a good distance away, so there's always that chance I'll UC anyway. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> And I was a little sad about not getting that social time with her if we UC, so it's nice to know I'll spend time regularly with someone who totally understands what I'm going through. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br><br>
ScarletBegonias and UCmama, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> I love facts. Somehow so many people manage to ignore them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I love the enpoweredchildbirth.com site for the "what if" question:<br><br><br><br>
I don't have the "it was meant to be" attitude. I do my research and I fully understand nurses and doctor's positions since they see hundreds of thousands of births compared to my vagina, which has only seen 7 births essentially. But out of those 7 births only one was not viable and 1 birth happened through an incision which I now believe was unnecessary.<br><br>
The saying goes, "Doctors look for something to go wrong and are surprised when they don't. Midwives don't look for anything to go wrong are and surprised when they do."<br><br>
Doctors don't always create the most positive birthing situations. Monitors, epidurals, IV's, straps, stirrups, withholding food, etc etc etc it's no wonder America is falling further and further down the list on neonatal deaths and maternal deaths. We have some high death rates and yet some of the best technology around. The conclusion is that technology does not improve birth, it hinders it, causes premature babies, raises the risk and chance of an unnecessary c/s, infections, and even death.<br><br>
For those who completely trust doctors and hospitals, more power to you. But their failure rate scares me more than a midwife (which is different from a MEDwife, that practices under a doctor and hospital rules).<br><br><b>For the most part I trust my body. But I also know things can go wrong</b>. I will have a shadow OB who will not know of my UC plans. I will use him as a back up option if I need to transfer to the hospital in case of an emergency. My history, however, at this point kind of indicates things should go smoothly, but life is not that simple and I know perfectly well things can go wrong.<br><br>
I also think the notion that we create what we believe is true as well. If we believe things can and will go wrong; they probably will. If we believe things will go smoothly and be fine; they probably will!<br><br>
Positive thinking goes a long way!<br><br>
As for "Do UCers go to the hospital if things go wrong?" Like someone else said It depends on the person I guess. I of course would head to the hospital if something seemed to be going wrong. I am not worried at this point, but perhaps when I am 36-38 weeks pregnant things will change. At least by then I will have a better idea of how my body is reacting and dealing with this pregnancy and perhaps I will have a lot more information, too, regarding this baby. At this point in time it's hard to say what will happen in another 8 months. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
HTH some</div>
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That is how I feel. I absolutely trust my body to do what it was created to do. I am not a negative 'what if-er'. I am having a homebirth, but I will have a midwife present. She will be there only if needed. I am a student midwife and feel capable of birthing, but I want to be able to focus on that - birthing. I want someone there who can react in a situation if needed. My privates will remain private (she does no vaginal exams, etc), no one will touch my baby but me and my family, and I am sure it will be a very spiritual experience.<br><br>
Cord around the neck isn't a big deal. Even light meconium. My biggest concern would be severe meconium. The midwife who is training me lost the first baby she attended due to meconium aspiration. It wasn't anyones fault, it just happened that way.<br><br>
Doctors do a great job screwing up something that works. I am happy to be able to do this at home, with back-up from a knowledgeable, hands-off woman! I can't wait to read all your UC birth stories!
 

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ScarletBegonias and UCmama, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> I love facts. Somehow so many people manage to ignore them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"></div>
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I know all the facts. I totally agree with them, which is why I'm in midwifery school. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> What I can't ignore, for myself - not anyone else, is that accidents and deaths happen at homebirths, too. I, personally, could not live with myself in that situation, knowing I could have possibly prevented it had someone other than my husband been there. I am not saying UC is dangerous (because I don't think it is), I just don't think it is for me.
 

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