Mothering Forum banner

1 - 12 of 12 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,690 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
We're vegetarian. No cow milk/cheese/eggs but do sometimes consume things with "hidden" dairy.<br><br>
My oldest son has been having a lot of tummy/bathroom issues for the last six weeks or so and we think it's diet related. Gluten came to mind because it happens after lunch every day, but tonight for dinner we had a veggie burger and he didn't eat much and said his tummy hurt again, so I'm thinking that soy is a possibility too because at lunch each day, he also has soy milk.<br><br>
I think our diet has gotten too heavy on the soy anyway. Two or three cups of soy milk each day, tofu a couple times a week, veggie chik'n nuggets, soy hot dogs, smart bacon, tofurky, etc.<br><br>
I recently discovered almond breeze almond milk and love it. My oldest likes it too, but the other kids, not so much. I can probably do part soy/part almond and gradually decrease the soy and increase the almond though.<br><br>
I think I'm okay with tofu once a week (we do scrambled tofu one night a week for dinner) but that other stuff is garbage anyway and we shouldn't be eating it.<br><br>
I know there are some people that are veg*n and have a soy allergy, so I know it can be done, but how hard is it? What soy foods are considered safest and in what amounts? I know fermented (that's tempeh and miso right? but miso itself isn't really "food" right?) is supposed to be best, but don't know in what quantity. I know isolated soy is best avoided. But what about stuff like soy milk, tofu, etc?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,800 Posts
I avoid soy because it just causes me too many problems. We use vanilla flavored rice milk which is sweet. My son can tolerate cow milk in small amounts now, but he doesn't like the taste of it so he continues to drink rice milk and loves it. I've never given him soy milk. I was concerned about all the things I read about hormones and little boys. So I just avoid it. During bbq season we have veggie burgers more often than I would like. But now that that is over for the year, we probably won't have soy more than once every couple of weeks. I like to use veggie crumbles on occasion. I would much rather just eat whole foods and leave all the fake foods out of it.<br><br>
I've heard of other people who had serious tummy troubles from eating too much soy. I would try cutting it down or even out and see if he gets better. There are so many great things you can eat out there, why bother with soy. I hope he feels better soon.<br><br>
Kathi
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,433 Posts
I eat a vegan diet 99% of the time. I never eat processed soy. But, this is because I don't eat processed anything.<br><br>
I eat edamame, I eat miso ... so I do eat soy. Just not processed soy.<br><br>
For me, personally, letting go of all processed foods has been amazing in terms of how I feel and how much energy I have.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,690 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
I'm so frustrated because I just bought two containers of soy creamer this afternoon and stocked up on soy milk- so we have 8 cartons between plain, vanilla and chocolate.<br><br>
I was just talking to my husband a few minutes ago and we were talking about how we know a whole foods diet is best and we seem to have this conversation every year or so, and yet our diet keeps sliding back to processed garbage.<br><br>
I think I will do my best to cut it out this week and see how he does. I'll still use Earth Balance because I love chocolate chip cookies <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> and will probably use other stuff on occasion too. But it would be so nice if we could eliminate the big stuff.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
145 Posts
We consume very little soy.<br><br>
At home it's the use of Nama Shoyu (an unpasteurized soy sauce) the rare use of Braggs liquid aminos and tempeh maybe once a month.<br><br>
It sounds like you have a good handle on the detriment of consuming soy and pretty much all soy can be put into one of 2 categories, fermented and non-fermented. Those that are fermented are "safe".<br><br>
Changing your diet to a non-soy diet is no different than making any other big change... it is challenging to break free of the conditioning but it can be done.<br><br>
The most important thing to look at is why you eat soy and why you want to replace it. For most people it's a matter of replacing the meat dishes or drink they crave or "getting enough protein", but in truth you get plenty of protein from eating a good variety of fruit, veggies, and greens.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,193 Posts
I used to not eat anything that I did not know every ingredient that was in it. I started becoming a little more lax about it and I know when I have eaten more "normal" food, my belly would hurt a little afterwards. It may have been psychological though.<br>
I have been suprising myself by eating cheese pizza while out with my family a few times.........I feel disgusting afterwards. The sad thing is that none of the pizza has really been great tasting. I would rather eat what I make. I do not know if my taste buds changed or if they just did not have great pizza (although everyone else liked it). I think my buds must have changed.<br>
To be completely honest, many times I want to throw up afterwards, but I just try to keep my mind off it until I start feeling better. My hubby does not want me throwing my food up. Typically I would not like the idea of vomiting, but after I have eaten some "normal" food I feel like I would feel better if I got it out of my system quicker than waiting for it to digest. I just need to stop torturing myself by eating foreign food.<br>
I was so good at saying no for years and over the past year I have been slipping up. For instance, I had not eating cake for YEARS and last week I ate a piece of cake! What is up with me?!?!?! I have got to get ahold of myself!<br><br><br><br><br><br>
But back to the subject.....if your child has been eating different foods than normal, then that could cause a belly ache...or it could be an allergy.<br><br>
Make sure <b>water</b> consumption is up to par...because lack of water can mess people up in all sorts of ways.<br><br>
To figure out what is causing it just log activities after eat meal....so you know what makes your child feel worse, ect.<br><br>
Edit<br>
also when I first started eating fake meats some of them would make me feel sick<br><br>
Plus there have been stomach bugs going around...maybe that is it
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
215 Posts
We don't eat or drink many soy items. This has been a gradual porcess for us. We had to find replacements that we liked and worked well in recipes.<br>
To replace soymilk, we use an almond and hemp milk mix.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,690 Posts
Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Does anyone know about the safety of Almond Breeze (pesticides, etc?)? We try to buy organic as much as possible but I haven't seen an organic almond milk. I tried making it a couple times, but dh said he didn't like to chew his drink <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> and it wasn't creamy either.<br><br>
I sat down with my oldest yesterday and we came up with a lunch and dinner plan for the week that excludes big soy (there may be soybean oil or something in some stuff, but no soy milk, veggie meat, or anything like that). He was out of school today, but tomorrow will keep track of when/if he gets a tummy ache and what he was doing. Either way, we're going to cut down on soy from now on.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,233 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>lovemyfamily6</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12381616"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Does anyone know about the safety of Almond Breeze (pesticides, etc?)? We try to buy organic as much as possible but I haven't seen an organic almond milk. I tried making it a couple times, but dh said he didn't like to chew his drink <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> and it wasn't creamy either.<br><br>
I sat down with my oldest yesterday and we came up with a lunch and dinner plan for the week that excludes big soy (there may be soybean oil or something in some stuff, but no soy milk, veggie meat, or anything like that). He was out of school today, but tomorrow will keep track of when/if he gets a tummy ache and what he was doing. Either way, we're going to cut down on soy from now on.</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
I'm assuming you didn't strain it if you were chewing it? You have to strain the almond pulp out. blend a cup of nuts with 3-4 cups water, then strain through a jelly strainer bag or similar and squeeze. The almond solids are left behind in the bag.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,887 Posts
We eat very lil soy..my ds eats the most. We actually got worried about how much soy he was having and switched to almond milk which he LOVES and I really feel better about giving him it!...he does eat soy yogurt and soy vegan pudding occasionally(the pudding is freaking amazing! and its usually what we bring for himto bday partys ect. LOL)...and we have tofu MAYBE once a week to every second week. We don't eat any fake meat products unless they are bought for us by friends(like at a bbq, or we're traveling and subjected to only that)<br><br>
Our son has also had MAJOR tummy issues, and we werre told it was a gluten allergy so we started buying gluten free products, and cut down his soy and its really helped, now he can have ww bread and it not bother him, we just watch how much he gets of both and if we know hes ate alot really limit it for the next few days.<br><br>
We've never been big on the fake meat products b/c of all the additives/hidden gluten and soy in them. Just seemed like bad news all around, use to make all of us sick. That will be the hardest part for you..it may seem like alot of added cooking/prep to not eat soy but its def worth it!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,747 Posts
The only soy we get regularly is Earth Balance vegan butter. We do rice, almond, and hemp milks, and make our own bean-based veggie patties and things like that. We'll occasionally do tofu in a stir fry dish or something along those lines. Things like Tofurkey, veggie dogs, etc. are rare and more like treats, not frequent meals. They're too expensive to get all the time, anyway.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Does anyone know about the safety of Almond Breeze (pesticides, etc?)? We try to buy organic as much as possible but I haven't seen an organic almond milk.</td>
</tr></table></div>
Almond Dream lists organic evaporated cane juice, but not organic almonds. I can't find one entirely organic, so we get the rice milk a majority of the time.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
145 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>caiesmommy</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12383314"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">We eat very lil soy..my ds eats the most.<br><br>
Our son has also had MAJOR tummy issues, and we werre told it was a gluten allergy so we started buying gluten free products, and cut down his soy and its really helped, now he can have ww bread and it not bother him, we just watch how much he gets of both and if we know hes ate alot really limit it for the next few days.</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
Gluten is a big alergen but it could very well be that it's the soy that's responsible for your son's discomfort.
 
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
Top